Saturday, December 29, 2012

Denier Memes: The 'communist-socialist-cultist' conspiracy ...

MobyT | 4:15 PM Go to the first of 5 comments. Add a comment
Among people who reject climate science there is a dominant sub-group who are also conspiracy theorists.  You can easily pick them because they pepper their articles with words like 'scam', 'cult' and 'fraud'.  And among the conspiracy theorists there is a sub-group specialising in 'communist plot' conspiracies.

The origin of the 'reds under the bed' denier meme as it's applied to climate science is unclear. The meme is not restricted to climate science but can be adapted for any topic, such as open source software and even education and art, in fact anything at all to which one objects.  It can also be substituted for or by a "new world order" / "one world government" plot or a "fascist" plot.

Parody or the 'real thing'?

It can be hard for the casual reader to know whether someone is writing a parody or the real thing (see Poe's Law).  Take our Ben for example.  Ben often posts on climate science threads although I don't recall him ever discussing science.  In a few paragraphs on the HotCopper science and medicine S&M forum he mixes well-worn paranoid conspiracy theories (AGW cult) with 'reds under the bed' buzz phrases from the McCarthy era.  If he is writing parody he's kept it up for years without blinking.

Here is a handy list of key words (including frequency) for anyone who wants to emulate him:

socialist/socialism (9), communist/communism (7), cult/cultist (6), USSR (4), AGW scam and cult (3), destruction (2), corrupt (2), children (2), Lysenkoism, soviet, leftist, political, puppet, Gillard, Obama, religious, infiltration, invasion, hoaxers, dictators, hitler*, stalin, lenin, mao, brainwashing, indoctrination, greenie, cesspit, corrupt and complicit UN
In this screenshot I've highlighted some of the 'important' words and phrases.  As you can see, the words can be used interchangeably and work equally well in any or no context :)

Source: HotCopper.com S&M forum 


  1. He is a towering intellect - I love the "Soviet era Lysenkoism" he trots out as proof that AGW is a scam.

  2. Yes, dctrdisco - if you follow Ben's logic on his Lysenko theory, it takes you straight to the dreaded and very secret One World Government (OWG) and a dreaded and very secret (from everyone except all the scientists in the world) and very senior OWG official who sends sceptical scientists to the labour camps in Siberia.

    That's why climate scientists are heating up the planet - so their 'skeptic' mates don't get so cold in Siberia :-)

  3. this was interesting

    "this corruption of the scientific process for political and religious purposes"

    sounds like an anti christ OWG creationist to me

  4. Is there such a being, John? You could be right. There are some strange ideas floating around cyberspace.

  5. whoops , i did not mean that they were anti-christ but rather believe that the anti christ is here now and that the OWG as prophesised in the bible is unfolding note "religious purposes"


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