As you know, most crazy conspiracy theories are encouraged at WUWT, however there is one at least that is not allowable. The rules for which conspiracy theories are permitted and which aren't only become evident after Anthony Watts has considered them. Very few conspiracy theories are barred from WUWT. Until now, the only ones that I've seen frowned upon are the "chemtrail" conspiracy theory and maybe the HAARP conspiracy theory. Everything else is fine at WUWT. Anthony actively promotes "New World Order" conspiracies of Tim Ball, and the related Agenda21 conspiracy theories. He promotes his own conspiracy theories that scientists are fudging and faking data. As long as a conspiracy is tied in some way to climate science, it's all systems go at WUWT.
Which might have been the problem for the person whose comment Anthony disallowed. It didn't link Justice Scalia's death with climate science.
Who killed Justice Scalia?
Let me go back one. There is a new conspiracy theory that has been disallowed, but only certain renditions of it. The particular version that isn't allowed at WUWT is that "the CIA killed Scalia on Obama’s orders". Now don't be misled. This isn't a total ban on the "Scalia was murdered" conspiracy theory. It's quite okay to decide that Antonin Scalia was murdered in his bed, and that the US Marshalls are in on the conspiracy. It's not at all clear whether Anthony objected to the CIA being brought into the mix or whether he objected to the US President being fingered. Going by the comments allowed it was the CIA that Anthony objected to. He permitted comments accusing the US President of murdering Justice Scalia.
This is what happened. You can decide how to interpret Anthony's rule about which of the "Scalia was murdered" conspiracy theories are permitted at WUWT and which are not.
It came to my attention (h/t PG) that Janice Moore interrupted a discussion of conspiracy theories generated by the detection of gravitational waves (see upcoming article). Janice announced his or her departure from WUWT. Many will be breathing a sigh of relief. Janice Moore is one of the rattier of the ratty WUWT regulars, with a tendency to preach God and pray for WUWTians at every opportunity (not so much lately), and whose comments consist almost entirely of LOLS and punctuation marks and smiley face emoticons. In a rare demonstration that Janice Moore can string words together in whole sentences, she/he wrote:
February 14, 2016 at 7:22 pm
Hey, Marcus. Just posting this as a “good bye, for now.” I need a looong break from WUWT after just now reading Rud Istvan’s and Anthony’s gross mischaracterization of my (and some others’) only wanting an investigation and some answers about Justice Scalia’s death (see 2/14/16 Justice Scalia thread toward the bottom) as an assertion of a “conspiracy theory.” Not once did I assert or described a “conspiracy theory.” And yet, that is how my logical response to this situation was described.
Take care, Marcus. I’ll be praying for you in the years to come.
Your former WUWT ally for truth, but your pal, always,
P.S. I am not going to return here, so, if you reply to this, please don’t be hurt if I don’t respond.
February 14, 2016 at 8:00 pmGoing back further into recent articles I see that dbstealey was the first to come up with the hint of a conspiracy. Remember he's the ex-WUWT moderator who thinks that Pope Francis is a KGB sleeper agent. He posted this comment under an earlier article by WUWT's main wacky conspiracy theorist, Tim Ball (archived here);
I noted your decision to leave WUWT thinking a comment was directed at you. it wasn’t. I hadn’t even seen your comment. In my comments admin window, I only see comments that need approval.
Another comment, not published, but sent to the bit bucket, was what I was directing it at. It suggested the CIA killed Scalia on Obama’s orders. That’s the sort of crazy stuff we don’t need.
I’m sorry you thought it was directed at you.
February 13, 2016 at 7:30 pm
Who does Scalia’s autopsy?
Janice Moore supported Smokey's theorising and wrote:
February 13, 2016 at 8:06 pm
D.B. — Precisely. Sure hope that his family will demand that their own medical expert be, at the very least, present for the entire procedure and given copies of all lab results, etc… . When your loved one dies, however …. you just don’t care, sometimes… . Sure hope the family will listen to some wise advice, nevertheless, and that someone who cares will act on their behalf to make sure the autopsy is: 1) complete; 2) honestly and competently performed; and that 3) the results are fully shared with the family.
After my initial deep dismay, that was my first thought: “Sure hope they get an autopsy.”
Your thought went one better… .
While he was, after all, 79, I expected Antonin Scalia to live to be 90, at least. The timing is definitely convenient for the enemies of our Constitutional rights… . Hm.
Janice Moore did some more reading and mused that the US Marshalls might have been in on the conspiratorial plot to kill Justice Scalia:
February 14, 2016 at 3:02 pm
It was 0330 the next morning, so that rules out that “suspicious circumstance.” After a brief read of news, the first place to investigate is the U.S. Marshalls who reportedly told the judge there was no need to see the body. No. I do not think that every one of the U.S. Marshalls members is above reproach. There needs to be a forensic examination in the context of a general investigation.
Janice Moore urged fellow conspiratorial thinkers at WUWT to demand an autopsy and investigation:
February 14, 2016 at 2:00 pm
WE, the People, should demand an autopsy (and investigation).
Janice Moore said it again:
February 14, 2016 at 2:13 pm
I realize, that, GM. I think that an investigation should happen.
Janice Moore then gave her/his reasons:
February 14, 2016 at 2:44 pm
Dear Rob R,
Thanks, Rob. Here’s a rational conclusion: given the strong motive of Scalia’s political enemies, an investigation into Justice Scalia’s death is only logical. I have not concluded anything. I, as a reasonable person, have questions that I would like answered.
To assume all is well is to ignore the context of the death.
Now Janice wasn't the only WUWT-er who promotes the "Scalia was murdered" conspiracy theory. Here are some more, from the Justice Scalia is dead discussion (archived here):
Ari Halperin hinted that the murderers escaped to Mexico:
February 14, 2016 at 1:54 pm
Presidio County Judge Cinderella Guevara pronounced Justice Scalia dead of natural causes without seeing the body and decided not to order an autopsy, according to Washington Post. Presidio County is heavily Democratic; in 2012 elections, Obama received 71% of the county’s vote. The death happened at the Cibolo Creek Ranch, less than an hour from the Mexican border, allowing murderers (if there was a murder) easy entrance and escape.
Is anybody going to insist on the autopsy and investigation?
I'd say Mike Bromley the Kurd is serious, going by his later comment:
February 14, 2016 at 3:29 am
Perhaps he was slipped a mickey.
Marcus hints too that there is something afoot:
February 14, 2016 at 3:40 am
.. I find the timing of his death….very unsettling !
belousov wondered who did the deed, but not who gave the order:
February 14, 2016 at 4:00 am
I wonder if Obama killed Scalia himself or was able to find a government employee capable of doing the deed. This kind of puts Watergate in perspective – a 5-4 SCOTUS stay of a presidential flagship ideology driven project (AGW) and a few says later the 5 becomes 4. Quelle surprise!
Tom in Florida wondered the same thing:
February 14, 2016 at 8:12 am
My very first thought. (Does Vince Foster come to mind?)
High Treason smells murder:
February 14, 2016 at 1:19 pm
Extremely suspicious is an understatement. To announce “natural causes”immediately, especially before a Coroner’s report smells like murder to me. How convenient- the only obstacle to dictatorial power conveniently dies, the stalwart defender of the Constitution. Immediate verdict. Sure. Socialists and other totalitarians will stop at NOTHING to cement their power, even murder of political opponents.
Time for Americans to be ready to honour the OBLIGATIONS of the second amendment. It is not just a right to bear arms, it is an obligation for the People to rise up against a rogue government. Do note, the second is there to protect the first. If the first goes, so does freedom. Obama will go after guns immediately, which means the People can not defend themselves against their government, which is very clearly overstepping the mark. How many violations of the Constitution can be tolerated?
As for climate rubbish- the “convenient” death gives Obama the rubber stamp. The rubber stamp extends to the entire nation.
Janice Moore isn't the only one to think the US Marshalls are in on the conspiracy. Gloateus Maximus wrote:
February 14, 2016 at 3:44 pm
Too bad he’s already embalmed in a rush to judgement. I wouldn’t trust US Marshals as far as I could overhead toss them.
schitzree warns WUWT-ers that Stephan Lewandowsky could be mining the thread for research material:
February 14, 2016 at 6:46 am
Vote against Obama and less than a month later he’s in charge of picking out your replacement.
But don’t worry, Lew Boy will be along shortly to reassure us that any concerns we might have that this all seems mighty convenient are just ‘Conspiracy Ideation’. In fact, I’ll bet he’ll already have a paper about it ready to go.
Climate conspiracy theorist and Gish galloper, ristvan was about the only person who objected to all the "who killed Scalia" comments, and toward the end of the very long thread piped up with a plea:
February 14, 2016 at 5:26 pm
Folks, have to weigh in to keep WUWT semi-credible. Loose the conspiracy theories. Period.
Scalia was 79, and significantly overweight. Regrettable but likely natural loss.
Finally, after allowing all the above comments through, Anthony Watts decides that maybe Rudd has a point and that only climate-related conspiracy theories should be allowed on his blog. He wrote:
February 14, 2016 at 5:48 pmIt was after writing that comment that Anthony apologised to Janice Moore and said he wasn't directing it at her/his version of the "who killed Scalia" conspiracy (see above). So it's fairly clear that only one version of that particular conspiracy theory is not welcome at WUWT. Most are.
I have to agree, enough of this, take it elsewhere. All further replies of this nature will be deleted.
Political extemism at WUWT
On another (or related) note, some comments will provide insight into just how extremist the right wing extremists at WUWT are. It makes me think that what Anthony Watts objected to in the conspiracy theory he banned wasn't the part about President Obama, it must have been the part about the CIA. (Maybe because the CIA isn't supposed to operate on US soil.)
In response to a comment about President Obama being incorruptible, the following comments emerged. I think most people would agree that President Obama would be regarded as right of centre on the world stage. A "small l" liberal but very far from being socialist or extreme left. He's probably on par with Australia's Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, who leads the conservative party here:
Gloateus Maximus must inhabit a very weird and narrow world:
February 14, 2016 at 7:57 am
Beyond naive. Obama is nothing if not a hard Left ideologue. All that will matter to him is how reliably socialist and anti-constitutional his nominee is. And his or her ethnicity.
AndyJ's world is even weirder (if that's possible). He's talking about a man who was elected not once but twice by the American people. What does he think of his neighbours one wonders.
February 14, 2016 at 12:39 pm
Yes, you are being naive. Very naive .Obama is a self-serving sociopath who has shown no evidence of conscience when it comes to killing innocent civilians overseas and possibly at home in order to promote the Imperial agenda. Any nomination he makes to the bench will be pushed on fringe issues but will be totally pro-fascism.
Scalia conspiracy theories elsewhere
WUWT isn't the only place to come up with this conspiracy theory. It's all over the internet. Just Google "Who killed Justice Scalia". I think this headline has to be up there with the best of them, if you're a Star Trek fan:
Did Leonard Nimoy Have Antonin Scalia Killed to Give Obama Enough Supreme Court Votes to Cancel the 2016 Election?