An odd admission at WUWT (archived here). Not that what is written is wrong, just that deniers at WUWT aren't normally as up front about their deviant behaviour. By deviant I'm referring to the fact that in their real worlds, deniers wouldn't as often come across people who reject science with such vim and vigour. It's only because of the Internet that they can find other people receptive to their wacky ideas. The Internet enables a small pool of science deniers from around the world (or the US, Canada and Australia) indulge in the illusion that their conspiracy theories are "normal" - taking comfort in numbers.
Anthony's put up a postcard with words that all WUWT-ers live by:
Anthony's wondering if a petition to Facebook to ban denier nonsense will have legs. According to the article he copied and pasted, most of the stuff you read at WUWT contravenes Facebook policies:
Facebook doesn’t have too many rules, but the very last one reads that, “Pages must not contain false, misleading, fraudulent or deceptive claims or content.”
Anthony even left in this bit, which describes his blog to a T:
The question then, is whether or not claims that say global warming has stopped and an ice age is imminent, that climate scientists are fudging the data, or that Climategate showed wrongdoing would all fall under false, misleading and deceptive claims. We don’t know what else you would call them, so perhaps a ban would be warranted after all.
From the WUWT comments
The comments echo what I wrote above. Deniers take comfort in numbers, trying to reassure each other that their various and contradictory weird and wacky delusions about climate are somehow "normal". They want the freedom to hold to their emotional opinion based on no facts or evidence.
Paul Westhaver avoids anything that would threaten his fragile illusions:
June 22, 2015 at 8:09 am
This is an example of why WUWT is important and what attracts me to read and comment here rather than on Facebook. I NEVER use or view Facebook. Freedom of speech is to important to leave in the hands of Zuckerberg and Sandberg.
Incidentally, the upcoming generation has ceased to use Facebook apparently.. Opting for Instagram etc. Facebook will follow the generational path of MYSpace.
tom s is damned if he's going to let reality (from leftists or the White House) interfere with his conspiracy theorising. Shades of The Authoritarians:
June 22, 2015 at 8:34 am
Since the leftists have been in charge of universities, news media and the whitehouse. They have no time for dissent. They are the ninny-nanny’s on your block and will do whatever it takes to force you to submit to THEIR beliefs.
Gubulgaria's lone (if snarky) voice of reason doesn't register:
June 22, 2015 at 8:14 am
Have evolutionists and pro-vaccinators lost the argument as well? .
Perhaps you should have a big party with the anti-vaxxers and creationists to celebrate winning the argument?
Patrick claims to have been "banned" from Facebook. I'm guessing that all that happened is that someone he was spamming with denial simply unfriended him.
June 22, 2015 at 8:16 am
Yup! I for one can say I was banned from Facebook because of complaints about my views on a-CO2 driven climate change. No facts or science needed.
Stephanie Clague's thought could have benefited from a proof read, though I don't know if it would have been much improved:
June 22, 2015 at 8:22 am
Who among us denies we have a climate or even that climate changes?
The term should be banned, it is a hate filled smear and a poisonous politicised created by the most evil far left ideologies to damn their enemies.
We could them reality deniers or debate deniers, only those who know they cannot defend their position in free debate seek to close it down with such determined spite.
tom s disowned a friend who didn't reject science. Too upsetting.
June 22, 2015 at 8:43 am
I de-friended an old school mate for his daily diatribes on this subject. I argued with him almost daily. He’s a big fan of skeptical science. I could not take it any more and simply and courteously gave him the boot from my friends list. It was seriously causing me stress. And this guys’s a scientist as well but believes only one side and one side only….he lives in large house and rebuilds old cars….fossil fuel burning cars. I asked him about that and it sent him in a tizzy. I told him he’s a bit of a hypocrite….it was beginning to get nasty so I said, buh-bye!
Stephen Abbott decides that freedom to sign a petition to limit Facebook to factual items means totalitarianism:
June 22, 2015 at 8:42 am
To be objective about this, any idiot can get a few thousand people to ‘sign’ a virtual petition. That said, it really does speak volumes about the totalitarinism of the Warming Alarmists.
And where would WUWT be without Hitler and his Nazis? Rob wrote:
June 22, 2015 at 8:43 am
Sounds like Himmler and Nazi Germany. At least the true enemies have exposed themselves.
This is a good thought :) aplanningengineer says if Facebook is good enough for flat earthers then it's good enough for science deniers:
June 22, 2015 at 8:52 am
The Flat Earth Society has a Facebook group. Facebook has groups and individuals promoting homeopathy, psychics, fortune tellers, vaccine opposition, fad diets, different religions (which can’t all be true) and so on. I do not think Facebook could even begin to ban such items based on evaluations of their truthfulness (nor would I support efforts to do so). There is no way to draw the line once you start down that path.
The numbers are small and hopefully it is and remains a very limited group promoting this frightening idea. But it shows that there are some whose environmental fears will over-ride most any other value or consideration.
RHS seems to think that flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, climate disinformers and AIDS deniers are doing the world a favour:
June 22, 2015 at 9:08 am
Without an opposing view or voice, we we either have fascism or are completely dillusional.