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Wednesday, June 5, 2013

Anthony Watts Promotes Another Greenhouse Effect Denier...

Sou | 5:55 PM Go to the first of 3 comments. Add a comment



Anthony Watts has made a big to-do about banning Dragon Slayers from WUWT on the grounds they deny the greenhouse effect. However many of his guest posters also deny the greenhouse effect, so I can't see why he makes such a fuss about the Dragon Slayers.

Just yesterday Anthony Watts published an article by Vincent Gray denying the greenhouse effect of carbon dioxide.  Not only that, as we'll see, Vincent Gray denies not only the greenhouse effect, he also denies that the sun can warm the world and he denies the laws of physics.

Gray starts with this:

There are two gases in the earth’s atmosphere without which living organisms could not exist.
Oxygen is the most abundant, 21% by volume, but without carbon dioxide, which is currently only about 0.04 percent (400ppm) by volume, both the oxygen itself, and most living organisms on earth could not exist at all.

What about nitrogen?


I don't know why Gray leaves out nitrogen, which is the bulk of the atmosphere.  Without nitrogen "most living organisms on earth could not exist at all" either.  Humans are not just messing with the carbon cycle, we're also messing with the nitrogen cycle. (Click to enlarge.)

Source: Wikipedia

The Great Oxygenation Event


Gray also gets his biology somewhat confused, writing:
This (increase in atmospheric oxygen) happened when the more complex of the two living cells (called “eukaryote”) evolved a process called a “chloroplast” some 3 billion years ago, which utilized a chemical called chlorophyll to capture energy from the sun and convert carbon dioxide and nitrogen into a range of chemical compounds and structural polymers by photosynthesis.
Source: Nature (click to enlarge)

He doesn't mention the prokaryotes photosynthesising.  And photosynthesising eukaryotes have an organelle (not a process) called a chloroplast which contains chlorophyll pigments.  As D.E. Canfield writes in 2005, in his paper The Early History of Atmospheric Oxygen: Homage to Robert M. Garrels:

The evolution of oxygen-producing cyanobacteria was arguably the most significant event in the history of life after the evolution of life itself.

Although Gray's knowledge of biology and paleobiology is outdated at best, that's by the way.  He's sloppy when he writes about how earth's atmosphere became oxygen rich.  To read more about the oxygenation of early Earth, read Canfield, and Bekker et al (2004) or look up the Great Oxygenation Event.  Before that occurred there was some oxygen in the atmosphere as reported by Anbar et al (2007) in Science.


How Gray tries to deceive


Moving along.  Gray put up a chart that is cobbled together by some unnamed person purportedly from material by scientists like Prof. William Ruddiman.  Gray employs the sort of deception practiced by others on WUWT like Don Easterbrook.  Unlike Gray, Ruddiman knows very well that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and acts as a 'control knob' on Earth's climate.  In fact Ruddiman argues that anthropogenic climate change began thousands of years ago.


Milankovitch -> Icey <-> CO2 <-> Warmer <-Milankovitch


Here is a paper by Ruddiman in which he writes about CO2 and glaciation and the effect each has on the other.  I've picked out two sections from the closing summary:
In the hypothesis presented here, intervals of ice-sheet growth during the last 2.7 million years share two characteristics: (1) insolation forcing of linear (“Milankovitch”) icevolume responses at the tilt and precession cycles; and (2) amplification of the forced 41 000-year ice response by CO2 feedback. The growth of 41 000-year ice sheets prior to 0.9 million years ago can be explained by CO2-feedback amplification of the forced ice response to changes in tilt. After 0.9 million years ago, similar episodes of CO2-amplified ice growth continued at 41 000-year intervals, but polar cooling suppressed ice ablation during subsequent intervals. ...
...The CO2 feedback hypothesis can explain why the northern and southern hemispheres responded nearly in phase on terminations (Broecker and Denton, 1989). Near the ice sheets, changes in ice-sheet size set the climatic tempo. Far from the ice sheets, most climatic responses were strongly affected by an atmospheric CO2 signal that was largely controlled by (and in phase with) the northern ice sheets. As a result, most global climatic signals were ice-driven and nearly synchronous.  An exception is the tropics, where summer insolation forcing produced very strong monsoon responses that were largely independent of northern ice (Kutzbach, 1981).

Just, lookey here.  This is a more accurate diagram than Gray's, showing the state of the science in 2007, from the IPCC report.  Looks like a correlation after all.


It's not the sun?


Gray ignores all the evidence and contradicts the author of the material he 'cites' and writes:
It will be seen that there is no correlation whatsoever between carbon dioxide concentration and the temperature at the earth’s surface.
Wrong Mr Gray, as can be seen in the diagram above.  And apart from his suspect cobbled drawings, Gray doesn't consider the sun.  Funny that.  One minute deniers will shout "it's the Sun" (when they aren't shouting "it's insects").  Now Gray ignores the faint sun in early times altogether.

If you're wondering how early earth kept warm, when the sun was much more faint, here are a couple of papers from Science in January this year.  The first from Robin Wordsworth and Raymond Pierrehumbert and the second from James Kasting.


Gray says for most of the Holocene we had a "Dead World"...


Gray then writes the silliest thing:
"The idea promulgated by the IPCC that the energy received from the sun is instantly “balanced” by an equal amount returned to space, implies a dead world..."
Really?  First of all, the whole reason for the IPCC being established is that there is more incoming energy than outgoing and the world is getting hotter.  We've kicked the system out of 'balance'.  Nowhere does the IPCC say what Gray wrote.  It's silly.  He's just making it up.  He's also forgotten all he ever knew about energy and physics.

During the Holocene there was a pretty good balance between incoming and outgoing energy.  That's what happens. That's why the climate didn't change all that much until recently. I wouldn't describe the Holocene as a "dead world".  Would you?  When there are large imbalances on the other hand, then much life can die - like in the various extinction events.

The system seeks balance, otherwise earth would have got out of kilter long ago.  The earth had got to a nice equilibrium state where the incoming energy was matched with outgoing energy.  Now the push comes because CO2 is forcing earth to retain more of that incoming energy.  Because of the extra CO2, energy is taking too long to escape and in the meantime, the sun keeps sending us more energy.  Over time, earth will get to a new energy equilibrium where outgoing radiation will once more balance with incoming radiation and earth will stop heating up.  It will be hotter than it is now, though.



The extent of Vincent Gray's denial


To recap, Vincent Gray denies:

  • the greenhouse effect 
  • that the sun can warm the world (by denying that the faint sun didn't warm the earth as much) and 
  • the laws of physics (that the earth will seek to balance incoming energy with outgoing energy).



Deceiver Gray is just another Disinformation Peddler


Is Vincent Gray merely ignorant? No, given his political lobbying efforts he's a deliberate deceiver, misrepresenting the science.  It's not as if he doesn't have a science background himself.  He has the brains and education to know better so the only explanation is that he's intent on spending his few remaining years on earth making it worse for people not yet born.

As for Anthony Watts accepting the greenhouse effect.  Yes he does but he continues to publish articles like this one from Gray that deny it.

3 comments :

  1. There was a figure I've seen which is similar to the standard paleo-climatological figure showing CO2 and temperature, but also includes solar forcing to show how - with that included - the correlation is very good. Have you seen such a figure?

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    1. It depends on how far back you want to go.

      AFAIK there is still a fair bit of hypothesising on the very early earth. There are also other greenhouse gases that played a much bigger role in the past at different times than they do today, particularly CH4.

      If you come across anything let us know. I'm always on the lookout for good illustrations :)

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  2. I know this is an old post, but I found the source of Gray's unnamed chart.

    It's by a wackjob biologist AGW denier called Nasif Nahle. Notice Vincent Gray has removed Nasif's name from the bottom of the chart?

    http://www.biocab.org/carbon_dioxide_geological_timescale.html

    I found it because a poster on a forum tried to pull the same stunt by posting Nahle's chart without a link.

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