Anthony Watts, Tim Ball, Christopher Monckton, and Willie Soon and chemtrails, HAARP, and the New World Order

I'm of the view that one shouldn't get on the same platform with people who aren't credible. It gives them an undeserved legitimacy and you'll end up confusing anyone ignorant of the subject.

Anthony Watts, who runs a  "climate hoax" conspiracy blog wattsupwiththat.com, doesn't agree. He gives a platform to greenhouse effect denying "sky dragon slayers", despite weakly protesting on occasion that he "believes in" the greenhouse effect. However if you've read about Tim Ball and Christopher Monckton of Brenchley before, you know they are more than mere science quacks, they are wacky conspiracy nutters. Anthony Watts frequently promotes them and their silly ideas on his blog. Today I discovered they are associated with a whole society of utter nutters. A group, or if you like, a collective of individualists, wanting to take over the world. (Seriously.)

At WUWT, Anthony posted another conspiracy-laden article by Tim Ball, where he said: "Recently I spoke at the Freedom Force Conference in Phoenix on Climate Change. " So off I trotted to see what this "Freedom Force" group was all about.

Who can beat the WUWT HAARP conspiracy theories?

Anthony Watts blogs on WUWT that the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) shut its gates last May, mainly for budget reasons.  One of the reasons given was that the diesel engines that power the facility don't comply with the Clean Air regulations.  Whoever made the decision figured it would cost too much to upgrade them, according to this website.  And even on that website it doesn't look as if the decision is final yet.

I couldn't find any other information so I can't confirm the story one way or another.

No HAARP Discussions on WUWT

Whatever.  On WUWT, despite the fact that Anthony's article was about HAARP and comments were open, the mods didn't want any discussion of HAARP, saying it's against WUWT site policy.

Philip Bradley says:

July 16, 2013 at 2:48 pm  Google ‘weather modification’. You will get lots of HAARP weather conspiracy sites.
[Reply: yes, but please, we don't want to get into HAARP discussions. — mod.]

Bill Jamison says:

July 16, 2013 at 5:19 pm  Shutting down HAARP won’t shut down the conspiracy nuts. They’ll simply claim that it wasn’t really shut down.
Are there any published science papers based on HAARP research?
[Per site Policy, please do not discuss HAARP. Thanks. — mod.]

Ryan says:

July 16, 2013 at 5:50 pm  I find the HAARP conspiracy preposterous, but not as preposterous as the idea that climate science is all fake.
[Per site Policy, please do not discuss HAARP. Thanks. — mod.]

WUWT HAARP Conspiracies

Nevertheless, the article brought out a couple of conspiracy nutters or people doing a good imitation :D

HalfEmpty says:

July 16, 2013 at 3:09 pm  Closed? Sure. That’s what they say.

kramer says:

July 16, 2013 at 6:58 pm  PRESIDENT BACKS CLIMATE CONTROL
Report to Congress Calls for Wide Research Program on Causes of Weather
New York Times, Feb 19, 1966, pg 29
By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
In submitting the report to Congress the president said that “highly encouraging steps are being taken toward establishing safe and effective programs from modifying the weather.” “We can now begin to see the day,” he said “when such programs may become operationally feasible.”
…
A broad-based national program of weather modification, the foundation’s report said, should include research and dispersion of fogs, cloud seeding for rain, suppression of hail, changing the course and nature of hurricanes, redirecting the paths of storms towards drought areas and increasing precipitation from summer showers and thunderstorms.

Michael says:

July 16, 2013 at 9:47 pm  There have been at least two more larger sites built in the United States. There are C.I.A. controlled sites also in other countries. The facility in Alaska attracted too much attention, especially after the attack on New Orleans was exposed.

The top WUWT entry is probably this one from David, who says:

July 17, 2013 at 3:06 am Please, it looks like a political move to claim it’s shutting down. With interest in the climate at an all time high and the bankers pushing the scam having virtually unlimited wealth and influence over the military, there’s no reason to shut it down.

The technology is relatively simple in principle, as we know the ionosphere has an effect on the jet stream and electromagnetic interference can affect the weather. We also know that heat input increases convection, combined HAARP is a very real possibility. We also know that technology released to the public is usually 20 years behind the cutting edge of what the military has.

Above all we know that if they have an idea or the capability, the WILL use it and the goals, to damage economies destroying resistance to political and economic takeover (destabilise regions strategy) and to convince the public significant man made global warming is real would suggest the likelihood is that ionospheric stations have been used in this capacity or at least the potential explored.  

The labels “nutballs’ and ‘hams’ not to mention ‘conspiracy theorists’ are terms used by establishment shills and scumbags covering up for the establishment, and are usually used by morons and people with no science or logic behind them.

They all seem pretty lame.  Let's see who can come up with a better HAARP conspiracy theory!  No prize for the winner but you can bathe in honour and glory and maybe I'll find an elephant stamp or a gold star.

Oh, and if anyone comes here looking for a debunk of the various conspiracy theories, you could start here.  I once found an even better debunking but have lost it.  I guess the military or the CIA or the lizard men took it down :(

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