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Showing posts with label hurricanes. Show all posts
Showing posts with label hurricanes. Show all posts

Saturday, July 16, 2016

Tropical cyclones and aerosols, with Breitbart's Steven Capozzola at WUWT

Sou | 9:27 PM Go to the first of 10 comments. Add a comment
Anthony Watts has posted an article by Steven Capozzola, who seems to be presenting himself as some sort of authority on hurricanes or climate (archived here, latest here). I checked him out. Is he any kind of expert on tropical cyclones? No. Has he even the most basic understanding of climate? No. Yet he pits himself against experts as if he knows something they don't.

Steven Capozzola claims to be "Media consultant. CEO of CAP Media LLC. Advocate for U.S. manufacturing & affordable power" - not affordable, but expensive and dirty power. He's a denier for hire.

At WUWT today, Steve is writing how he doesn't think that the USA will ever get a hurricane landing on its shores again. Well, not quite that. He wrote:
The New York Times ran an op-ed today by Adam Sobel, an “atmospheric scientist at Columbia.”  The gist of Sobel’s article: Since 2005, the United States has been experiencing a hurricane “drought” (I.e. no major hurricane has made landfall in the time. We are currently at 3918 days, over a decade.)  But don’t worry, Sobel says, there will be more hurricanes soon, and the fact that they will be coming is proof of man-made climate change.
Yes, that’s what he’s saying.
The question is whether Sobel is writing the op-ed to buck himself up, and the rest of the alarmist crowd. 
No, that wasn't exactly what Adam Sobel was saying, as you've probably guessed.

Monday, November 4, 2013

The certainty of science deniers. And what are the facts about hurricanes, tornadoes and Antarctic sea ice?

Sou | 7:39 PM Go to the first of 3 comments. Add a comment

Straw men are built to be blown away.  They can be constructed from anything really.  It doesn't have to be straw.  It could be wind and rain, like tornadoes and hurricanes, or sea ice.

justthefactswuwt wrote on WUWT today (archived here):
It is amazing how easy alarmist scare forecasts/predictions can be falsified with readily available data...The data shows no increase in tornado counts or strength. Claims about increasing or more dangerous Tornadoes are unfounded.

Unfounded?  That's a strong claim! But first just what are the "claims" and who is making them?

In today's article (archived here) Justthefacts mentioned three things: tornadoes, hurricanes and Antarctic sea ice.

justthefacts is adamant that the projections of what will happen over the coming 90 years or so are completely wrong.  This complete and utter certainty is based on less than a year's data.  Not only that but justthefactswuwt appears to be very certain about what expectations are held by climate scientists.  So I thought it would be useful to see what are the forecasts/predictions for each item to see whether or not they have been falsified.

It turns out that, in contrast to the absolute certainty of justhefactswuwt, there is a lot of uncertainty and little agreement in the science itself:

  • Tornadoes - might decrease relative to severe thunderstorms, although a new paper suggests an increase in frequency of severe tornadic storms over the coming century
  • Hurricanes and tropical cyclones - if anything they are expected to decrease or stay the same, but with low confidence, although a new paper argues they may increase.
  • Antarctic sea ice - expected to decline over the coming century, but again with low confidence.
The uncertainty and lack of strong agreement within the research is not really surprising, given the sporadic and relatively infrequent nature of tornadoes and hurricanes, and the difficulty of collecting data in the southern oceans and across the whole of the Antarctic continent.

And I must add that a single year's weather is hardly sufficient to falsify projections of climate!

Tornadoes in the USA

AR5 WG1 suggested that in the USA at least, the expectation is for more severe thunderstorms relative to tornadoes over time.  Tornadoes are expected to decrease or at least decrease relative to the number of severe storms.  It's all to do with energy vs shear.  But it won't be till towards the end of this century that trends will be able to be measured.  In any case, a single year's data isn't sufficient for "falsification" .  From AR5:
Severe thunderstorms, associated with large hail, high winds, and tornadoes, are another example of extreme weather associated with the water cycle. The large-scale environments in which they occur are characterized by large Convective Available Potential Energy (CAPE) and deep tropospheric wind shear (Brooks et al., 2003; Brooks, 2009). Del Genio et al. (2007), Trapp et al. (2007; 2009), and Van Klooster and Roebber (2009) found a general increase in the energy and decrease in the shear terms from the late 20th century to the late 21st century over the United States using a variety of regional model simulations embedded in global-model SRES scenario simulations. The relative change between these two competing factors would tend to favour more environments that would support severe thunderstorms, providing storms are initiated. Trapp et al. (2009), for example, found an increase in favourable thunderstorm conditions for all regions of the United States east of the Rocky Mountains. Large variability in both the energy and shear terms means that statistical significance is not reached until late in the 21st century under high forcing scenarios. One way of assessing the possibility of a change in frequency of future thunderstorms is to look at historical records of observed tornado, hail, and wind occurrence with respect to the environmental conditions (Brooks, 2013). This indicates that an increase in the fraction of severe thunderstorms containing non-tornadic winds would be consistent with the model projections of increased energy and decreased shear, but there has not been enough research to make a firm conclusion regarding future changes in frequency or magnitude. (Page 12-53)

I searched the AR4 and the Second Assessment report but could not find any projections for tornadoes.  I searched the third assessment report and there was this statement:
Although some evidence is available regarding increases in the intensity and frequency of some extreme weather events, it is not yet clear how tornadoes will be affected
By contrast, a more recent study published as open access in PNAS (Diffenbaugh et al 2013), quoted by justthefactswuwt does suggest that tornadoes, or at least severe thunderstorms, will most likely increase this century.  The paper has lots of caveats but the final paragraph in the conclusion states:
Given the substantial damage from severe thunderstorms in the current climate, uncertainty about the response of such storms to global warming has created an important barrier to climate change impacts assessment (1). Our results indicate that continued global warming might cause substantial increases in the occurrence of the atmospheric environments associated with severe thunderstorms, because the implied reduction in vertical wind shear may not be as important as previously thought. These increases include regions where severe thunderstorms currently are most common, and regions where severe thunderstorms currently are less common but where substantial assets are exposed (3, 6, 15). Although important uncertainties about storm-scale processes still exist, the fact that the projected increases in severe environments are robust across a suite of climate models, emerge in response to relatively moderate global warming, and result from robust physical changes suggests that continued increases in greenhouse forcing are likely to increase severe thunderstorm occurrence, thereby increasing the risk of thunderstorm-related damage.
Note that the above relates to "atmospheric environments associated with severe thunderstorms" and not specifically to tornadoes.  However elsewhere in the paper there is reference to tornadoes.  For example in the abstract, Diffenbaugh13 writes:
We also find that days with high convective available potential energy (CAPE) and strong low-level wind shear increase in occurrence, suggesting an increasing likelihood of atmospheric conditions that contribute to the most severe events, including tornadoes.

It is also worth pointing out that Diffenbaugh13 notes the paucity of data, writing:
First, there is no reliable, independent, long-term record of severe thunderstorms—and particularly tornadoes—with which to systematically analyze variability and trends.

The science is much less certain about tornadoes than is justthefactswuwt.

Hurricanes (and tropical cyclones and typhoons)

It doesn't look as if the projections for hurricanes have been falsified, either.  From AR5 WG1 - there has been an increase in the frequency and intensity of the strongest tropical cyclones but not overall.
In summary, this assessment does not revise the SREX conclusion of low confidence that any reported longterm (centennial) increases in tropical cyclone activity are robust, after accounting for past changes in observing capabilities. More recent assessments indicate that it is unlikely that annual numbers of tropical storms, hurricanes and major hurricanes counts have increased over the past 100 years in the North Atlantic basin. Evidence however is for a virtually certain increase in the frequency and intensity of the strongest tropical cyclones since the 1970s in that region. (Page 2-60)
And tropical cyclones are projected to stay the same or decrease, according to AR5.  But the ones that emerge will be fiercer and wetter:
There is low confidence in the projections for the tropical Atlantic, both for the mean and interannual modes, because of systematic errors in model simulations of current climate. The implications for future changes in Atlantic hurricanes, tropical South American and West African precipitation are therefore uncertain. ...
...Based on process understanding and agreement in 21st century projections, it is likely that the global frequency of occurrence of tropical cyclones will either decrease or remain essentially unchanged, concurrent with a likely increase in both global mean tropical cyclone maximum wind speed and precipitation rates. The future influence of climate change on tropical cyclones is likely to vary by region, but the specific characteristics of the changes are not yet well quantified and there is low confidence in region-specific projections of frequency and intensity.(Page 14-4)

From AR4 - tropical cyclones will become more severe and intense:
Earlier studies assessed in the TAR showed that future tropical cyclones would likely become more severe with greater wind speeds and more intense precipitation. More recent modelling experiments have addressed possible changes in tropical cyclones in a warmer climate and generally confirmed those earlier results. 


From AR4 - tropical cyclones and hurricanes will become more intense but globally, less frequent (low confidence)
Based on a range of models, it is likely that future tropical cyclones (typhoons and hurricanes) will become more intense, with larger peak wind speeds and more heavy precipitation associated with ongoing increases of tropical sea surface temperatures. There is less confidence in projections of a global decrease in numbers of tropical cyclones. The apparent increase in the proportion of very intense storms since 1970 in some regions is much larger than simulated by current models for that period. {9.5, 10.3, 3.8}

From the Third Assessment Report:
Climate models currently are unable to project accurately how hurricanes will change in the future. 

However not all research points to a decrease in tropical cyclones.  A recent paper by Kerry Emanuel suggests that tropical cyclones may increase, but large uncertainties remain:
An increase in global mean frequency during roughly the first three quarters of the 21st century is indicated, with a total increase in the range of 10-40%. ... most of the increase in frequency is in the North Pacific, but with substantial increases in the North Atlantic and South Indian oceans as well. The only coastal region that experiences a substantial decline in track crossings is the southeast coast of Australia....
...The differences between our results, those arrived at by applying the same technique to CMIP3 models, and the conclusions of other groups using different models and/or using different methods suggest that projections of the response of tropical cyclones to projected climate change will remain uncertain for some time to come.

All I can say once again is that justthefactswuwt is a lot more certain than the science itself.

Antarctic sea ice


On the other hand, Antarctic sea ice is expected to decrease over time - presumably over winter because there's precious little sea ice in summer.  However, but there is only low confidence in the projection.  From AR5 WG1 (page 12-5)
It is very likely that the Arctic sea ice cover will continue shrinking and thinning year-round in the course of the 21st century as global mean surface temperature rises. At the same time, in the Antarctic, a decrease in sea ice extent and volume is expected, but with low confidence....There is however low confidence in those values as projections because of the wide inter-model spread and the inability of almost all of the available models to reproduce the mean annual cycle, interannual variability and overall increase of the Antarctic sea ice areal coverage observed during the satellite era.

Again, justthefactswuwt is much more certain than the science.


From the WUWT comments

There aren't too many people jumping on justthefactswuwt bandwagon.  Maybe they've been bitten too many times in the past, jumping in too soon. Or maybe they are remembering the massive tornado that tore through Oklahoma in May this year. There are a few more Gore-bashing comments than usual, probably because justthefactswuwt let fly in the article.  (Comments archived here.)


sophocles says "it's cooling":
November 3, 2013 at 12:14 pm
The National Academy of Sciences said:
“…are forecast to see a “robust” increase across parts of the U.S. in upcoming decades because of climate change …”
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Unfortunately, they may be correct but not for the reasons they are thinking.
If past records are any hint, the onset of cooling can bring bad storms, (from
Brian Fagan’s book “The Little Ice Age”), not warming.
The AMO and PDO have turned over, the Sun is sliding into another minimum
and cooling is already apparent (only slight, so far but…) so the next ten years
are going to be interesting …


Paul Homewood predicts the lull in tornadoes won't last and says:
November 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm
It’s extremely unextreme.
And next year, no doubt, NOAA will be bragging off about “a big jump in tornado numbers from last year”. 

Saturday, August 31, 2013

Denier Weirdness: Science deniers just can't wait for disasters

Sou | 11:27 AM Go to the first of 2 comments. Add a comment

On the one hand science deniers at WUWT protest what they term "alarmism", in other words the warnings about what is likely to happen as global warming continues.  On the other hand they get it all wrong and jump on things that either aren't predicted to happen or about which science is less certain.

For example, while the heat events and heavy rains expected with global warming are already happening and increasing, science deniers either ignore it or pretend it isn't real.  Instead they build strawmen and talk about tornadoes and hurricanes (tropical cyclones to most of the world, by far the majority of science deniers live in the USA).  The science isn't all in on whether these will increase or decrease.  Some science suggests that tropical cyclones will increase over time, other studies suggest that they won't, but maybe they will get more intense or larger cyclones will increase.  Tornadoes is another question altogether - to do with wind shear etc.

Today, Anthony Watts complains (archived here) that his neighbours on the east coast of the USA haven't been hit with hurricanes this year - the implied response he wants from his fans is that global warming isn't happening or if it is it's a good thing.  Tropical storms are still hurting other people.  But they don't live in the USA so they don't count.

Anthony avoids writing about the long drying out of his own neck of the woods, which is predicted by global warming.  Or the current fire raging in Yosemite and the increase in wildfires in America's west over time.

Why does he avoid what is happening and build strawmen?  Why does he point at squirrels while ignoring wildfires in his own backyard? Why does he continue to promote silly denialist rubbish? Because he doesn't like paying tax - or that's the reason he gives anyway.  It's a strange reason for building strawmen and denying science, but there you go.

Tuesday, June 25, 2013

Have all the deniers gone barking mad?

Sou | 7:12 AM Go to the first of 21 comments. Add a comment


Anthony Watts has a post about how Grover Cleveland caused 23 more hurricanes than has President Obama.  I think he also thinks that the Whitehouse knows of and cares very deeply about what some idiot who goes by the name of Steve Goddard tweets.


This WUWT article will go down as an Anthony Watts classic!

Are all deniers barking mad or what?

Interesting too that Anthony's palling up with Steve Goddard again after giving up on his silliness, making up stuff about sea ice.  He's running out of allies and must be turning to whoever he thinks he has left. Even idiots like Steve Goddard.  (Not his real name, but as long as he's a climate science denier he's not an anonymous coward as far as Anthony is concerned.)

Interesting to see Andy Revkin apparently consorting with and promoting the idiot Goddard, too.  And even Andy seems to think the White House cares two hoots about a dumb denier blogger and that it is all powerful and can just pick up a phone or something to Jack Dorsey and he'll hack the system and delete a tweet for them.

Even if the White House had ever heard of or cared about some crazy blogger, even it can't just get into Twitter and delete someone else's tweets.  Here's a live link to the tweet that all the climate science deniers (except Steve Goddard probably) thinks the White House cared enough about to use the Patriot Act or whatever to delete. (Does the USA still have a Patriot Act?):

The world sometimes seems to be a madhouse.   Deniers are nuts and getting nuttier day by day.  You'd think they'd limit themselves to just one conspiracy theory a day, wouldn't you.  A case of one is never enough I suppose.

PS My readers know already that Twitter is too complex for Anthony Watts.  Looks like Andy Revkin is flummoxed by it as well.


PPS Comedy gold!  I was wrong about Steve Goddard knowing his tweet wasn't deleted.  Apparently he doesn't know how to check his own timeline.   Now he's trying to claim that not only did the White House delete his tweet, the White House put it back again!  Face palm, as they say in the USA :D

Weird to see inside the mind of a conspiracy theorist.  Does the word megalomania spring to mind?  Do they think the White House is running Twitter now?  Deniers are bloody barmy, as we say down under :D


Courtesy of Anonymous in the comments and conscious of the fact that someone will cry "Godwin's Law" but this one is funny :D





PPPS More comedy.  Now Anthony Watts in another fit of conspiracy ideation has decided to test the power of the White House.  I'm not kidding!

Apparently he wants to be as important as he thinks Steve Goddard is (and John Cook).  You'd think after making such an idiot of himself with his ignorance of Twitter he wouldn't be so willing to do it again.  But Anthony never learns...He seems to really and truly think that the White House is trying to hide the history of the weather in the USA..  Not only that but he thinks the White House cares enough about a dumb denier blogger to notice his tweet.  Not only that, he thinks/hopes they'll take so much notice they'll remove it.  Not only that, he thinks that the White House can remove a silly tweet just by snapping its fingers.  (Does the White House have fingers?)  Look!









Sheesh. And to think there are still a few people who take these idiots seriously. 


It's not the White House it's the NSA


Crikey, they aren't finished yet.  Now they reckon the NSA has got involved.
_Jim says:
June 24, 2013 at 1:59 pm  Are we sure that wasn’t actually an “NSA pull”, for, you know, possible ‘national security’ reasons?

And they really do not understand Twitter and think the White House not only can alter Twitter but that it takes any notice of a tweet from a complete nonentity.  Does anyone else think that some people must have a really, really hard time surviving the real world?

Snake Oil Baron says:
June 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm
It seems they deleted it from their White House site tweets which is possible but it still existed on Twitter. I was confused about that at first. It is still a sissy thing to do but not a sinister thing to do.
No, Snake Oil, that's not how Twitter works.  You can't delete a tweet from any 'site'.   More than conspiracy ideation, these people have real delusions of grandeur.


PPPlosingcountS


"Steve Goddard" thinks that his megalomania has something to do with first amendment rights.  He still seems to think the White House did something with his tweet.  Nutty as...