tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post8414805595840921445..comments2024-02-12T15:25:44.028+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: "Much more moral authority comes from the imprimatur of government" - David "funny sunny" Archibald at WUWTSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger123125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-7240450712212249952014-04-14T01:01:06.877+10:002014-04-14T01:01:06.877+10:00Different style, don't you think Bernard?Different style, don't you think Bernard?Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-70159732503431146222014-04-14T00:43:59.859+10:002014-04-14T00:43:59.859+10:00Hmmm...
I wonder - is Cartman KarenMackSunspot?Hmmm...<br /><br />I wonder - is Cartman KarenMackSunspot?Bernard J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-45336143456301251762014-04-14T00:16:27.850+10:002014-04-14T00:16:27.850+10:00Your comments haven't disappeared, Cartman. Th...Your comments haven't disappeared, Cartman. They've been delicately moved but <a href="http://hotwhopper.com/HotWhoppery.html" rel="nofollow">carefully preserved</a> in their proper place.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-41414165067646515602014-04-14T00:06:20.478+10:002014-04-14T00:06:20.478+10:00I do not expect to post again . There is no point ...I do not expect to post again . There is no point anyway this one will be deleted<br />fairly quickly based on what has happened to my last few posts.<br /><br />Good luck with your lives .<br /><br />Cartman .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31898300362053073372014-04-13T06:55:22.756+10:002014-04-13T06:55:22.756+10:00BBD,
I had noticed that the laws of libertarian p...BBD,<br /><br />I had noticed that the laws of libertarian physics don't obey Scottie's description - they can be changed. The simplest way is just to make stuff up.Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-66788565632190450722014-04-13T06:31:34.893+10:002014-04-13T06:31:34.893+10:00@Marco, sorry about that! Guess we both saw the sa...@Marco, sorry about that! Guess we both saw the same squirrel...Raoulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-58486301139463117392014-04-13T06:25:18.424+10:002014-04-13T06:25:18.424+10:00Catmando
Like all the accumulated CO2 - sorry, yo...Catmando<br /><br /><i>Like all the accumulated CO2 - sorry, you don't think that has any effect. Silly me. </i><br /><br />Don't you know that conservation of energy works <i>differently</i> in libertarian physics? It is highly selective. Some kinds of energy can just disappear. Others can <i>get bigger</i> until they are efficacious climate forcings. It's wonderful stuff. I dare say one of these days it'll get written up in a decent journal and we can all stop worrying. BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53458601557697076552014-04-13T05:02:05.786+10:002014-04-13T05:02:05.786+10:00Changes in GCR flux only work one way, like a diod...Changes in GCR flux only work one way, like a diode? Amazing: "it's all cycles", until it's convenient that it isn't.PLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-32042153654551905182014-04-13T02:23:48.362+10:002014-04-13T02:23:48.362+10:00"Do you really not understand the cumulative ..."Do you really not understand the cumulative effect of that over years .<br />"<br />Like all the accumulated CO2 - sorry, you don't think that has any effect. Silly me. Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-86310507012715055362014-04-13T01:09:07.189+10:002014-04-13T01:09:07.189+10:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-23462854939840802612014-04-13T01:05:06.875+10:002014-04-13T01:05:06.875+10:00I notice that the denier sites have simplified the...I notice that the denier sites have simplified the flow chart from the solar output hypothesis paper. I guess they don't think the slightly more complex version from the paper is dumbed down enough.Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-34564536434578581522014-04-13T01:02:14.027+10:002014-04-13T01:02:14.027+10:00Cartman gone back to being Anonymous? Too many que...Cartman gone back to being Anonymous? Too many questions to answer? If you were interested in really understanding anything, you'd stay on one topic until we agree. The easiest question above for Cartman is to list Tim Ball's peer-reviewed climate-science articles.<br /><br />Abstract of new paper avoids the inconvenient truth that measured GCR flux does not have a trend that explains a trend in temperature. There may be a relationship on the 11-year solar cycle, but that's it.PLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-70365700769136141192014-04-13T00:52:48.551+10:002014-04-13T00:52:48.551+10:00Anonymous writes
"For those very few of you w...Anonymous writes<br />"For those very few of you who are interested in real science there is an explanation here"<br /><br />You have got to be a poe because anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of the adiabatic lapse rate can see the mile wide holes in the 'presentation' in the ideological blog you linked to. All you are showing is how completely enthralled and smitten you are with ideology.<br /><br />You have further demonstrated that with this<br /><br />"The explanation is further supported by new research found here"<br /><br />You just will never get it will you. The link was citing this paper<br /><br />http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/9/4/045004/pdf/1748-9326_9_4_045004.pdf<br /><br />which stated<br /><br />"Based on the GEOS-Chem/APM simulations, a decrease in ionization rate associated with GCR flux change from solar minimum to solar maximum reduces global mean nucleation rates CN3, CN10, CCN0.8, CCN0.4, and CCN0.2 in the lower troposphere (0–3 km) by 6.8%, 1.91%, 1.36%, 0.74%, 0.54%, and 0.43%, respectively."<br /><br />So using a model, they managed to get at most a 6.8% influence. That's right, a less than 10% influence on "global mean nucleation rates". Nothing about this effect on temperature, or in a real world situation.<br /><br />What you have illustrated is how ideological blogs will distort and lie to suit their own agenda. When is the penny going to drop that those sort of blogs are just ignorant, illogical and just plain wrong, and anyone who thinks that they present real science is totally freaking deluded.Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47448501361688624922014-04-13T00:25:08.913+10:002014-04-13T00:25:08.913+10:00You will not find real science at a denier website...You will not find real science at a denier website Anonymous. That is just self-delusion.Jammy Dodgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-23965704715422082852014-04-12T23:59:39.386+10:002014-04-12T23:59:39.386+10:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-9971956418088695562014-04-12T23:44:55.780+10:002014-04-12T23:44:55.780+10:00Why do these hit and run commentators do this? Do ...Why do these hit and run commentators do this? Do they think they are making a sharp point? <br /><br />The question you should be asking yourself, Anonymous, is "Yes, it is kind of strange sea ice is increasing if the world is warming. Is there a possible explanation?". But that would involve <b>real</b> scepticism and some scientific ability which you do not possess. <br />Jammy Dodgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-55276462002875916022014-04-12T21:45:09.602+10:002014-04-12T21:45:09.602+10:00Who is Raoul and why has he stolen my comment? ;-)...Who is Raoul and why has he stolen my comment? ;-)Marconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-791967092273363302014-04-12T21:01:23.170+10:002014-04-12T21:01:23.170+10:00SunSpam, is that you? Your ability to punctuate ha...SunSpam, is that you? Your ability to punctuate has deteriorated even further, it seems...billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31088834133718550792014-04-12T20:32:07.420+10:002014-04-12T20:32:07.420+10:00And we have another who cries "Look! Squirrel...And we have another who cries "Look! Squirrels!"Marconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53755166495532063622014-04-12T20:31:47.639+10:002014-04-12T20:31:47.639+10:00Oh dear, what have we here? Another anonymous com...Oh dear, what have we here? Another anonymous commenter with a punctuation problem shouting "Squirrel!". Looks like a pattern is emerging. Quick, call Nicola Scafetta.Raoulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47914113427186968082014-04-12T19:04:24.996+10:002014-04-12T19:04:24.996+10:00Oh dear what is this I see . Global sea ice extent...Oh dear what is this I see . Global sea ice extent <br />is approaching record levels . Kinda strange in a world<br />that is supposed to going through meltdown .<br /><br /><a href="http://sunshinehours.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/global_sea_ice_extent_zoomed_2014_day_99_1981-2010.png?w=1024&h=682" rel="nofollow">Chart found here</a><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-23896664023535646172014-04-12T18:53:01.755+10:002014-04-12T18:53:01.755+10:00"Tim Ball may appear to be nutty if you do no...<i><b>"Tim Ball may appear to be nutty if you do not understand..."</b></i><br /><br />And climate scientists may appear to be normal, straightforward and uncomplicated individuals. Though of course we do not understand, do we?<br /><br />Naturally you believe the person who only appears to be nutty and reject the hundreds of people pretending to be rational. That makes sense in your bubble I suppose.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Jammy Dodgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-88035007126878687942014-04-12T13:45:38.228+10:002014-04-12T13:45:38.228+10:00Cartman writes
"He hardly stands alone in the...Cartman writes<br />"He hardly stands alone in the scientific world in the view <br />global warming via back radiation from a trace gas ( CO2 ) is unconvincing ."<br /><br />Yes, we all know that some people think that back radiation doesn't exist, but really, it's based on ignorance and ideology. Back Radiation by greenhouse gases is not just a theory, or an opinion, it is measurable!!! It was first measured in the 1890's. That you find it unconvincing, well, it's because your ideology and total ignorance prevents you from understanding it. Without back radiation, the earth would have a night time temperature close to the moon's night time temperature.<br /><br />You have still failed to provide a single published paper, so it is only YOU who is unconvincing!!Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-87369331058095450672014-04-12T13:06:40.787+10:002014-04-12T13:06:40.787+10:00"He is an experienced scientist/academic"..."He is an experienced scientist/academic": Tell us about this. How many peer-reviewed articles in climate science? List them. (It'll be quick.)<br /><br />"The fact that he thinks CO2 has limited effect is based on scientific argument which he explains. He hardly stands alone in the scientific world in the view global warming via back radiation from a trace gas ( CO2 ) is unconvincing."<br /><br />Sorry, that just means he's either ignorant, stupid, or deliberately wrong.PLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2006779225157470782014-04-12T12:13:41.206+10:002014-04-12T12:13:41.206+10:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Cartman ( Previously Anonymous )noreply@blogger.com