tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post8041500233942901303..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Out in time. Anthony Watts thinks it's 2050!Souhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-26908638738022198302015-07-21T09:49:33.382+10:002015-07-21T09:49:33.382+10:00Sorry about that, your comment fully sank in after...Sorry about that, your comment fully sank in after I posted mine. It seems you're right, the link isn't pointing to what it probably should be pointing to.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02320395147911342848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2616915549325073122015-07-21T09:47:35.702+10:002015-07-21T09:47:35.702+10:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02320395147911342848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-73739216364202268912015-07-20T06:09:08.035+10:002015-07-20T06:09:08.035+10:00No, he really did defame them. I have seen the vid...No, he really did defame them. I have seen the video of his presentation. He claims they intentionally mislead by fabricating. He claims they refused to release the data. He claims they refused to honour FOI requests.<br /><br />Muller knew the facts, yet he made his claims anyway - this is "malice".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-64006315990708830042015-07-20T03:58:09.908+10:002015-07-20T03:58:09.908+10:00I wouldn't say Muller *defamed* climate scient...I wouldn't say Muller *defamed* climate scientists, strictly speaking. Without justification he casually insulted their competence and public behavior, but that ill-manneredness doesn't meet the legal threshold of defamation.<br /><br />Hopefully the ongoing libel suits brought by Michael Mann and Andrew Weaver against various of their attackers will show where that line has been crossed.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59223063459760725272015-07-19T17:52:02.190+10:002015-07-19T17:52:02.190+10:00Muller is on video defaming other climate scientis...Muller is on video defaming other climate scientists.<br /><br />So pot kettle black I think.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-1883403042038037462015-07-19T05:58:09.196+10:002015-07-19T05:58:09.196+10:00Muller went on to blame scientists for public dist...Muller went on to blame scientists for public distrust because of their shifty behaviour so he gains no points, even when he concedes the untenable. Over-egoed and way over-exposed (but never enough for his own satisfaction).<br /><br />Just to be clear, I have a very low opinion of the type.Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2036633702126219892015-07-19T05:23:19.062+10:002015-07-19T05:23:19.062+10:00There is something weird about the monthly state o...There is something weird about the monthly state of the climate report, though. It doesn't give any data for June that I can see, just State of the Climate in 2014. I downloaded the PDF here.<br /><br />http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/briefings<br /><br />Camnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-62634923513379804612015-07-19T01:22:40.405+10:002015-07-19T01:22:40.405+10:00Steve Bloom.
It's interesting that you mentio...Steve Bloom.<br /><br />It's interesting that you mention recanting. Over the last few days I've been mulling on who in the cheer squad for the last decade has actually stepped to the plate and said they were wrong, and none of the obvious candidates come to mind. Richard Muller is the best I can come up with, and he doesn't really count because he started from (probably ill-advised/informed) scepticism and actually looked at the data to decide for himself, and changed his mind when he did. But Muller didn't really involve himself in the politics of denial, delay, and defamation.<br /><br />If anyone can point to a well-known Denialatus whose actually jumped that ship I'd be interested to hear.Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80607436057359278852015-07-19T01:04:03.151+10:002015-07-19T01:04:03.151+10:00I doubt it's money which motivates Watts, welc...I doubt it's money which motivates Watts, welcome though it might be. I think it's the attention and ego-buffing that's so addictive to such an insecure and remarkably stupid person. (So stupid that he must actually realise it - at such densities normal D-K rules break down.)<br /><br />In the light of that opinion you can probably work out my take on Judith Curry.Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-35290543972589642792015-07-19T00:01:09.180+10:002015-07-19T00:01:09.180+10:00Very probably, Harry, although to what extent is h...Very probably, Harry, although to what extent is hard to know. But when he first started, when he probably wasn't being paid, and IIRC his much more intermittent blog lacked the anti-climate science emphasis it acquired later, I think his poor physical intuition (along with that RWNJ milieu) is what led him to start down the crusading denialist path.<br /><br />Also, except for a few obvious psychopaths like Morano, I think most denier activists retain a degree of care for whether they'll come out of all this with any credibility or even self-respect. But for the likes of Willard Tony, recanting must seem like a worse prospect than sticking with it and just hoping for the best. Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6622791296912063832015-07-18T20:40:17.814+10:002015-07-18T20:40:17.814+10:00I think it is phonetic rather than frenetic or pat...I think it is phonetic rather than frenetic or pathetic. It is one thing to teach a class of five year olds to do better. What he does is keep his class of numpties at his level by pandering to their hopes and desires.<br />It is all very sad really. <br />We struggle with the science they struggle with the little fiddly bits on their anatomy. It is the Fiords of Slartybartfarst all over again! Bert <br /><br />Bert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-87039302043860526712015-07-18T17:28:09.830+10:002015-07-18T17:28:09.830+10:00While Chico's municipal water supply is in no ...While Chico's municipal water supply is in no danger since it's from an aquifer that's in good shape, its citizens are having to comply with recently-imposed statewide urban use reduction requirements, and agriculture in the surrounding area will have already taken major hits (although not as badly as areas farther south due to their ability under California's batshit crazy water laws to pump as much groundwater as they can manage from that same relatively healthy aquifer). So yeah, Willard Tony's noticing the drought. Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65343926458778758122015-07-18T17:03:09.010+10:002015-07-18T17:03:09.010+10:00Integrate the location of Chico with the map shown...Integrate the location of Chico with the map shown in this post. It is solidly in the worst drought category.<br />John Masheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-26356765703076312062015-07-18T16:16:18.226+10:002015-07-18T16:16:18.226+10:00I believe he is in it for the money.I believe he is in it for the money.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59453598964130893422015-07-18T15:37:01.432+10:002015-07-18T15:37:01.432+10:00I really didn't know... He doesn't have en...I really didn't know... He doesn't have enough phonticles? Sounds like a terrible way to go through life.<br /><br />stogyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47894308715925945462015-07-18T13:09:32.859+10:002015-07-18T13:09:32.859+10:00Sorry John, I looked it up on Google Maps but the ...Sorry John, I looked it up on Google Maps but the significance is not totally apparent. It's between two national forests that might burn easily and take out Chico or it's far enough north that the drought is just another news item on TV? My two guesses anyway.<br /><br />I'm in another country and more or less on the other side of the continent and really don't know much about the state except we get a lot of veggies from there.<br />jrkrideauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869979887929067657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6149500378198837832015-07-18T11:50:20.878+10:002015-07-18T11:50:20.878+10:00Clarification: next August as in August 2016.Clarification: <i>next August</i> as in August 2016.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-10929100071908004242015-07-18T10:58:01.281+10:002015-07-18T10:58:01.281+10:00The amount of data and analysis confirming the vas...The amount of data and analysis confirming the vast changes to our planet is not only huge it's daily. <br />JC, Anthony, Ridley et al will now incrementally accommodate <b>fact</b> so when Russia sends its summertime shipping via the Arctic (and that could be as early as next August) people will not remember how very bad they have been as humans.<br /><br />In support of my view I offer up the new study on <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/polar-bear-metabolism-cannot-cope-with-ice-loss-1.17992" rel="nofollow">polar bears</a><br />It's been out for 3 days and yet no sign of Susan Crockford at WUWT. The deniers are correct. Things are cooling down.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-17802009272429395562015-07-18T10:46:59.379+10:002015-07-18T10:46:59.379+10:00People might want to look up the location of Chico...People might want to look up the location of Chico, CA on that map...John Masheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6853709612654363232015-07-18T10:22:13.204+10:002015-07-18T10:22:13.204+10:00+1
For any such dittohead reading this; history ...+1 <br /><br />For any such dittohead reading this; history is going to see you as forlorn, sad, mean-spirited little people <i>at best</i>. Many, understandably, will simply despise you...billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-12968077096634002232015-07-18T08:16:58.041+10:002015-07-18T08:16:58.041+10:00Willard Tony is a sad case. He started this gig b...Willard Tony is a sad case. He started this gig because his physical intuition, informed by his personal experience of climate, a minimal education in short-range meteorology, and the fossil fuel propaganda circling through the RWNJ circles in which he travels, gave him confidence that any time now things would stop heating up and he'd be a hero. Now, all he's got left is what even he realizes is a forlorn hope, but since his credibility has no other chance for survival he continues to perfunctorily keep the ball in the air for as long as he can even as his following shrinks down to an equally sad band of retired dittoheads.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-27253773481785421332015-07-18T00:43:53.927+10:002015-07-18T00:43:53.927+10:00The wonderful thing about the future is that it is...The wonderful thing about the future is that it is whatever your imagination makes it. So for the Wutters in 2050 the earth is narrowly avoiding an ice age, primarily because of all that lovely CO2 in the atmosphere: the CO2 they did their best to make sure got there. The Wutters are heroes in their imaginary 2050. Meanwhile, the IPCC will have been 'found out' and its elderly remnants will have been dealt with severely by a special tribunal.<br /><br />Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-680284760354009262015-07-17T23:47:09.909+10:002015-07-17T23:47:09.909+10:00Clearly a man ahead of his time.Clearly a man ahead of his time.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-88759948660223688792015-07-17T23:38:24.818+10:002015-07-17T23:38:24.818+10:00On the one hand, if Watts is from the future, then...On the one hand, if Watts is from the future, then maybe he's actually right and has been all the long. On the other hand, those claiming they're from the future don't tend to be right about much at all.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02320395147911342848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67484276317756419552015-07-17T23:13:02.932+10:002015-07-17T23:13:02.932+10:00There's something wrong. Clearly.There's something wrong. Clearly.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.com