tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post7850120093024685801..comments2024-02-12T15:25:44.028+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: The Worlds Collide at WUWT - Astronomy is a Hoax!Souhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-82482673251679073812016-03-06T19:33:38.447+11:002016-03-06T19:33:38.447+11:00Tim Ball has bounced back with a piece at WUWT in ...Tim Ball has bounced back with a piece at WUWT in which he takes umbrage at the thought that he pushes Velikovsky by, er, pushing Velikovsky. And not many of the commenters have the critical thinking skills to see through it.<br /><br />http://archive.is/vHw05<br /><br />Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-25284337607997312492016-03-04T09:17:19.219+11:002016-03-04T09:17:19.219+11:00Sorry I'm a bit late with this, but I've j...Sorry I'm a bit late with this, but I've just noticed that Tim Bell was pushing Velikovsky in 2011 - <a href="https://archive.is/mfIwq" rel="nofollow">Scientific Reaction to Velikovsky Symptomatic of Climate Science Debacle</a> <br /><br />"In the end, Velikovsky succeeded because he passed the ultimate test of science: the ability to predict. More importantly, they were in contradiction to prevailing views. He made many, and apparently none are incorrect to date. The interesting one was the temperature of Venus, which was almost double what the textbooks said – the same textbooks that incorrectly use Venus as an example of runaway CO2-induced Greenhouse Effect."<br /><br />Bellmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04872924578152375407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6470915071690750892016-03-02T10:52:33.831+11:002016-03-02T10:52:33.831+11:00Bill gives us too much credit.
Lord knows we...Bill gives us too much credit. <br /><br /> Lord knows we've tried to swap the Donald for Boris, but he's happy where he is.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-34962363545466899542016-03-02T06:42:03.241+11:002016-03-02T06:42:03.241+11:00It's puzzling that Tim bothers to make stuff ...It's puzzling that Tim bothers to make stuff up <a href="http://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2016/02/empire-of-climate-signs.html" rel="nofollow">when the reality is so dazzlingly bizarre</a>THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-90111479432315709422016-03-02T06:24:05.815+11:002016-03-02T06:24:05.815+11:00As a matter of coincidence, I'm currently read...As a matter of coincidence, I'm currently reading Sagan's excellent <i>The Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle In the Dark</i>. But I'm just *reading* it. Most of the WTFUWT denizens and the entire wingnut faction of the Republican party seem to be *living* it.metzomagichttp://metzomagic.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-77423926713813646822016-03-02T04:47:57.723+11:002016-03-02T04:47:57.723+11:00yep can't wait for the AGW deniers to include ...yep can't wait for the AGW deniers to include the "chemmies", they are wackos tooTadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-68354908213158751682016-03-02T04:47:21.986+11:002016-03-02T04:47:21.986+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-68293115013012054702016-03-01T23:45:23.506+11:002016-03-01T23:45:23.506+11:00This underestimation is a serious liability to the...This underestimation is a serious liability to the entire planet.<br />I'm thinking of sniping my friends here for it, instead of revisionists-proper.<br />You people NEED to understand the PR world and how nefarious and incredibly effective it is.<br /><br />Climate revisionism never changed over past 20 years. Reading tip:<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_Us,_We%27re_ExpertscRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80671663136035670832016-03-01T23:42:58.385+11:002016-03-01T23:42:58.385+11:00Magma - look it up. Tim Ball is a smart lobbyist, ...Magma - look it up. Tim Ball is a smart lobbyist, nothing less.<br />Do not underestimate climate revisionism - ever. <br />Those people are NOT dumb.<br />http://www.desmogblog.com/tim-ball <br /><br />cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-49649149722900219402016-03-01T16:42:21.847+11:002016-03-01T16:42:21.847+11:00 168 presidential nominees have been filibustered ... 168 presidential nominees have been filibustered in the history of the United Sates<br /> 82 of them were Obama nonimees.<br /><br />So much for bipartisanship<br /><br />-Richard Mercernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67033630227086925102016-03-01T14:58:12.384+11:002016-03-01T14:58:12.384+11:00Yep. Russell, your Grand Old Party is mad, and is,...Yep. Russell, your Grand Old Party is mad, and is, as Chomsky points out, a threat to human civilization. All over the world sane people of all political persuasions are wondering what the hell we're all going to do if your farcical electoral process yields a lunatic cabal assembled by a narcissomegalomaniac overseeing the greatest arsenal in human history. <br /><br />The Republican nomination circus already has the US' international reputation in tatters...<br /><br />So, indeed; bugger 'bipartisanship'.billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-25498843171267463822016-03-01T13:05:20.909+11:002016-03-01T13:05:20.909+11:00"Bipartisan" is uniquely USian, and mean..."Bipartisan" is uniquely USian, and means the GOP and Democrats working together. The GOP which is about to have Donald Trump as their presidential candidate. Yes, please do save us from bipartisanship.numerobisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-1947076750154157272016-03-01T12:42:57.694+11:002016-03-01T12:42:57.694+11:00Ah, a drive-by non-sequitur. How unlike Russell.Ah, a drive-by <i>non-sequitur</i>. How unlike Russell.billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-58086206968874061432016-03-01T12:09:34.890+11:002016-03-01T12:09:34.890+11:00Well, Bert... although in our formative years it m...Well, Bert... although in our formative years it may have confused us a bit, I thought the training by the nuns was quite good, and we both seem to have come through it all with our bullshit detectors fairly intact.<br /><br />In my case, it was only the first 8 years of school, and we had alternate years of nuns/lay teachers. Having somehow managed to top my class, I won a free scholarship to Catholic secondary school and flatly turned that down. Best thing I ever did.<br /><br />In the end, I've forgotten more about the bible than most people ever knew, and am (apparently) none the worse for it :-)metzomagichttp://metzomagic.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-66120262101019647992016-03-01T11:24:44.392+11:002016-03-01T11:24:44.392+11:00Sou I was taught by nuns in the fifties. When I di...Sou I was taught by nuns in the fifties. When I did my first confession after months of lessons about lots of sins. I methodically admitted to every sin I had been taught. I thought it was a exam to regurgitate 'facts'.<br /><br />It was many years later that the priest who took my first confession reaction made any sense to me. He mumbled 'it seems that sister Mary's indoctrination was a bit over zealous.<br /><br />It was when I was about nine I worked out that all these religious people were deluded if not insane.<br /><br />In spite of this I went to a catholic school till year twelve, where we had to go on a retreat to contemplate our immortal souls with Jesuit Priests.<br /><br />To make a long story short I told these priests that that all the fairy stories I have been taught were just that. This was done in front of my whole year twelve class. I could see them cringe with fear. The priest asked me what I really meant. My reply was it was all made up boolshit.<br /><br /><br />The head Jesuit there then said that these allegorical stories were designed so simple people could understand them and you will understand when you get older and wiser.<br /><br />I said let me get this correct a story designed for simpletons will become clear when I get older and wiser?<br /><br />One priest asked 'have you no faith?' <br /><br /><br />My answer was 'I have no faith at all where there is no evidence.'<br /><br />I got into a lot of trouble such as my parents being ordered to front the school headmaster. <br /><br />My father was quite diplomatic. He said that the education at your school is very good apart from the fairy stories. He also understood he still had eight sons to go through the system. These other eight sons would also make up their own minds.<br /><br /><br /><br />This is why these religious cretins want to get into public primary schools. <br /><br />At least these people only fucked with my mind not my body. Although which is worse!<br /><br />Bert<br /><br /><br />Bert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-15575145480937830832016-03-01T10:10:13.829+11:002016-03-01T10:10:13.829+11:00Anthony's conspiratorial standards only rise a...Anthony's <i>conspiratorial</i> standards only rise as far as Chemtrail discussions but pretty soon he will be accepting those comments too. Here's why<br /><br />There seems to be a new and very gullible <i>commentariat</i> at WUWT. <br /><br />There has been no shortage of illiterate deniers to replace the literate ones who I presume, have moved on through embarrassment so Anthony has a pretty good business plan. <br />As the physical effects of AGW now regularly slap us in the face it's almost impossible to run denialist blogs by arguing against science ( you can see that at CE where Dr Curry desperately tries to pass off <i>uncertainty</i> as a whole new form of science if not the very key to atmospheric physics). <br /><br />So it makes complete sense for Anthony to devote his site to conspiracy theorists. There are millions of them out there and not enough Tim Balls and Alex Joneses to keep them <b><i>happy-angry</i></b>. It's a <i>Trumpian</i> business plan:<br /><br /><b><i>"I love the poorly educated! They are the smartest people, the most loyal people."</i></b><br /> <br />No surprise if Rud Istvan <i>pulls up stumps</i> and and makes CE his home page soon.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-17535722916366001302016-03-01T08:40:56.102+11:002016-03-01T08:40:56.102+11:00Tim Ball says the scientific publishers ought to p...Tim Ball says the scientific publishers ought to publish crap when asked to. I can understand why he would want that.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-40815663257474306382016-03-01T08:23:00.873+11:002016-03-01T08:23:00.873+11:00Maybe Tim can get Heartland to fund a Velikovsky R...Maybe Tim can get Heartland to fund a Velikovsky Reality Project.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-70937412663618956042016-03-01T08:18:57.362+11:002016-03-01T08:18:57.362+11:00I like the part where Ball reveals The Harvard H...I like the part where Ball reveals The Harvard Hasty Pudding Club is at the center of the conspiracy.<br /><br /><a href="http://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2016/02/words-in-collision.html" rel="nofollow">Why wasn't I told ?</a>THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59638576568457177032016-03-01T08:15:33.181+11:002016-03-01T08:15:33.181+11:00Too bad Peter Huber had to spoil the effect by bei...Too bad Peter Huber had to spoil the effect by being ine of Carl and Isaac's co-authors.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-81480082350615152812016-03-01T08:13:54.325+11:002016-03-01T08:13:54.325+11:00This changes everything . Thank goodness we have N...This changes everything . Thank goodness we have Naomi Klein to deliver us from the moral hazards of bipartisanship.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65935078027941843632016-03-01T07:39:01.263+11:002016-03-01T07:39:01.263+11:00I disagree, cRR, at least with your assessment of ...I disagree, cRR, at least with your assessment of Ball. But it's just as well; the decrepit second- and third-raters that AGW denial groups have used over the years have inflicted enough damage on their own. I shudder to think what a knowledgeable, competent, charismatic and quick-witted scientific speaker for the deniers could have done.<br /><br />Maybe there is no such person, and the combination of knowledge and competence screens out too many liars for hire. As the saying goes, if pigs had wings they could fly.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-73205792141172689012016-03-01T01:56:02.965+11:002016-03-01T01:56:02.965+11:00KSP may be the greatest video game ever created. ...KSP may be the greatest video game ever created. I wish I had more time to devote to it, as it requires some devotion. I have learend so much...<br /><br />https://xkcd.com/1356/coghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07986692158604407475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-76256494602713161802016-03-01T01:23:25.262+11:002016-03-01T01:23:25.262+11:00Tim Ball isn't that dumb. He knows a relevant ...Tim Ball isn't that dumb. He knows a relevant part of the electorate is that dumb.<br />This is why climate revisionism is such a resounding succes while using us to help them push the notion there's debate, hoax, whatever.cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-68805415929993777812016-02-29T23:05:18.611+11:002016-02-29T23:05:18.611+11:00If I remember correctly he even got a lot of the m...If I remember correctly he even got a lot of the mythology wrong. Mixing up Athena with Venus for example.Bellmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04872924578152375407noreply@blogger.com