tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post7613576049392439610..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: The dark side of humanity at WUWT: Tim Ball's hopes have been realised, his lies have notSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-7022789124645366542016-03-23T09:36:31.967+11:002016-03-23T09:36:31.967+11:00Is it clinging to conspiracy theories, or frantica...Is it clinging to conspiracy theories, or frantically running from facts?citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-42088504800113267912016-03-23T09:35:34.326+11:002016-03-23T09:35:34.326+11:00Richard Alley did wonderfully short succinct summa...Richard Alley did wonderfully short succinct summary of those same thoughts. Check it out: "What drives scientists?"<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_WLArrksB4citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-87292163314490179502016-03-22T01:39:48.973+11:002016-03-22T01:39:48.973+11:00It is mind boggling that so many people cling to c...It is mind boggling that so many people cling to conspiracy theories.<br /><br />There is no way that a large number of researchers dispersed around the world would be able to keep their stories consistent even if they were making a deliberate effort to do so.<br /><br />If someone is looking for personal gain, the last thing they would want to do is work in a line of research where there is a likelihood of finding oneself being a bearer of bad news from the perspective of political and business interests. <br /><br />Thon Taddeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08145437277658817404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-12631222093100770402016-03-22T01:02:20.493+11:002016-03-22T01:02:20.493+11:00Yes, I'll be fascinated to see what Lord Monck...Yes, I'll be fascinated to see what Lord Monckton conjures up with next. Ceisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831378692022001009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-60689013643679588062016-03-22T01:00:13.753+11:002016-03-22T01:00:13.753+11:00Apparently, this post from Luke has several 't...Apparently, this post from Luke has several 'trigger' words! <br /><br />" You truly think this is a vast conspiracy among climate scientists around the world? The problem with your argument is there is no incentive for scientists to be a part of the conspiracy. If there truly was fraud going on in the climate science circles, it would take one doctoral student, post doc, or PhD scientist to produce the data/analysis and take it all down, and they would become the most famous scientist in the field instantaneously! The reason it doesn’t happen is there is no conspiracy! Scientists are a competitive bunch and there are animosities just like any profession. If one of them saw a chance to make a name for themselves by exposing a fraudulent analysis of another scientist, they would do it. I hope the rest of you here don’t believe John’s conspiracy theory, it would only further reduce the your credibility."Prince Mishkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00598981079816801276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-82973387100061570442016-03-21T23:57:24.197+11:002016-03-21T23:57:24.197+11:00Nick mentioned that here the other day. So now it&...Nick <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2016/03/anthony-watts-strawman-and-cherries-and.html?showComment=1458165937613#c7520540700963504516" rel="nofollow">mentioned that here</a> the other day. So now it's permanent - or so it seems. I see it as another sign that Anthony Watts has altogether given up pretending his site is about science. <br /><br />Apart from the article by Richard Betts and one by him and Tamsin Edwards a few months ago, it's years since he got any real scientists to write a freebie for him. IIRC Walt Meier once wrote something. I doubt anyone would bother these days. <br /><br />All he's got left to write regular freebies are quacks, deniers and conspiracy theorists, like Tim Ball and Eric Worrall, and occasionally Bob Tisdale, and even less frequently Willis Eschenbach. He's even having trouble getting hold of Christopher Monckton now that the satellite temps have stopped "pausing".Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-66186076916591967062016-03-21T23:50:12.013+11:002016-03-21T23:50:12.013+11:00"For that matter Ball may not. How much stats..."For that matter Ball may not. How much stats would a historical geographer know?"<br /><br />Well, in Tim's defense, you know it's hard to keep up and equally hard to fact check everything when you're constantly on the run from the black helicopters in remote Canadian isles!jgnfldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-60545597893258690342016-03-21T23:25:02.515+11:002016-03-21T23:25:02.515+11:00Apparently, "Nick Stokes" is on that nau...Apparently, "Nick Stokes" is on that naughty word list:<br />http://moyhu.blogspot.dk/2016/03/banned-again.htmlMarconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-22168080810716066562016-03-21T22:30:10.537+11:002016-03-21T22:30:10.537+11:00Funniest post on WUWT for a long time. Smokey admi...Funniest post on WUWT for a long time. Smokey admits to being thick and we're also left to ponder what is on the WUWT naughty word list. Prince Mishkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00598981079816801276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-49064460195870508222016-03-21T10:13:37.041+11:002016-03-21T10:13:37.041+11:00I've added a link to the latest archived versi...I've added a link to the <a href="https://archive.is/0YfGj" rel="nofollow">latest archived version</a>.<br /><br />BTW while I couldn't find any mention of <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2015/03/freedom-water-plus-anthony-watts-at.html" rel="nofollow">Freedom Water</a> or Chemtrails in the IPCC report, it does mention cosmic rays in the Summary for Policymakers (section D.3 Detection and Attribution of Climate Change) and the main report (various - "cosmic ray" appears 87 times).<br /><br />Good point about the fakeness of fake sceptics. Even when the evidence is fed to them on a dainty spoon they ignore it in favour of conspiracy theories. There was <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/06/noaa-and-temperature-data-it-must-be.html#selfcorrect" rel="nofollow">a classic example</a> of how Judith Curry claimed that "However, the main point is that this group [fake sceptics] is rapidly self-correcting" - when the evidence showed that neither she nor any of the other fake sceptics did any correcting despite their errors being handed to them on a platter!Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-23091216824674091772016-03-21T08:32:02.556+11:002016-03-21T08:32:02.556+11:00Oh I love it. ClimateOtter will not be swayed by ...Oh I love it. ClimateOtter will not be swayed by any evidence, even when its jammed into his face.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-70582597843215621582016-03-21T07:54:23.664+11:002016-03-21T07:54:23.664+11:00Ahah brilliant,
When the headlight of reality sh...Ahah brilliant, <br /><br />When the headlight of reality shines on them, they look like pathetic rabbitsTadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-72954124753505857802016-03-21T07:52:27.392+11:002016-03-21T07:52:27.392+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-79227435017269193542016-03-21T06:46:21.766+11:002016-03-21T06:46:21.766+11:00I did make the correction in the comments:
------...I did make the correction in the comments:<br /><br />------------------------------<br />"<i>oneillsinwisconsin March 20, 2016 at 5:17 am<br />Dr Ball writes: “What is systematically omitted from the SPM are precisely the uncertainties ….”<br /><br />181 comments later not one person has pointed that Dr Ball is incorrect. The SPM does indeed include uncertainties – both mathematical and theoretical. This shows a complete lack of familiarity with the subject matter. One really doesn’t need to know much more to make the simple assessment that he’s pretty clueless."</i><br />--------------------------<br /><br />Hilarity ensues from that point on with ClimateOtter :)Kevin O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06692943768484857724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-68046471440195843032016-03-21T05:48:18.434+11:002016-03-21T05:48:18.434+11:00One would assume that Anthony has read Sou's r...One would assume that Anthony has read Sou's response but he seems to be emotionally fragile at the moment so perhaps he has not. <br /><br />One or all of the <i>Tim, Eric and Bob clown car crew</i> would have read HW's response. They have had over 12 hours to help Anthony correct the misrepresentation of AR5.<br /><br />Anthony you are a pathetic human being.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-73570945678624823482016-03-21T01:50:58.242+11:002016-03-21T01:50:58.242+11:00Yet what does Tim do? He tells a bald lie, and wri...<i>Yet what does Tim do? He tells a bald lie, and writes that uncertainties are omitted</i><br /><br /><i>181 comments into the thread not one commenter at Anthony's pointed out that the SPM does in fact include uncertainties.</i><br /><br />Well, my thoughts would be that a) No one would think of checking an original source, and b)even if they checked the source, none of them would realise what those numbers are supposed to be. For that matter Ball may not. How much stats would a historical geographer know?jrkrideauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869979887929067657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-71586772339403264982016-03-21T00:34:48.583+11:002016-03-21T00:34:48.583+11:00181 comments into the thread not one commenter at ...181 comments into the thread not one commenter at Anthony's pointed out that the SPM does in fact include uncertainties.<br /><br />It is this simple unfamiliarity with the actual facts that makes 99% of pseudoskeptic arguments fall apart without even getting into complex, science-related refutations.<br /><br />If Nick Stokes, or ATTP, Tamino or WC made a simple, easily checked error - they'd be jumped on by their regulars and the mistake quickly pointed out.<br /><br />In other words, those that like to call themselves skeptics are rarely skeptical, hence pseuodskeptics.Kevin O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06692943768484857724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6970706094164823172016-03-20T23:35:08.435+11:002016-03-20T23:35:08.435+11:00From the comments to the article on sea level rise...From the comments to the article on sea level rise, there seem to be a lot of "satellite deniers" around. Bellmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04872924578152375407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-52541356426054377052016-03-20T18:23:58.119+11:002016-03-20T18:23:58.119+11:00"Tim doesn't say what he means by positiv..."Tim doesn't say what he means by positive counter evidence"<br /><br />Any old nonsense made up by elderly former tobacco scientists and their like.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31878829783184444372016-03-20T17:34:51.333+11:002016-03-20T17:34:51.333+11:00I notice how WUWT poster Chris Hanley is giving Lu...I notice how WUWT poster Chris Hanley is giving Luke a lecture about 'alarmist tactics' while he himself is using a fraudulently labeled graph of the Richard Alley's GISP2 data (which ends in 1855, not 2000) to make his point. You can't make this stuff up. :D<br /><br />I wonder how many times versions of that faked GISP2 graph have been posted on WUWT? Ceisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831378692022001009noreply@blogger.com