tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post7431229903512833421..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: The latest conspiracy theory from WUWT: sea level numbers are imaginarySouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-60362152998218862112015-10-14T19:04:55.980+11:002015-10-14T19:04:55.980+11:00Comedy? Who knows?
Anoon 2Comedy? Who knows?<br /><br />Anoon 2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-86061013399162370592015-10-14T17:56:02.939+11:002015-10-14T17:56:02.939+11:00"SLR disproven by simple experiment!"
c..."SLR disproven by simple experiment!"<br /><br />comedy?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06809712374001740120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31967253693716039302015-10-14T08:29:43.671+11:002015-10-14T08:29:43.671+11:00What's the problem with imaginary numbers? Ta...What's the problem with imaginary numbers? Take the complex conjugate, multiply and then take the square root.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-85058369352736142462015-10-14T08:28:43.854+11:002015-10-14T08:28:43.854+11:00Your friends obviously disagree with the lege. Te...Your friends obviously disagree with the lege. Tell them to get out and voteEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-91392558732776809722015-10-14T00:40:39.744+11:002015-10-14T00:40:39.744+11:00It's true! And because the depth of seawater, ...It's true! And because the depth of seawater, and therefore its volume, goes to zero as you cross the shoreline, there is zero expansion and thus zero rise at the shoreline. You can observe this by placing a bowl of water in the sunlight -- as it warms, the water bulges upwards in the center while the edge stays put. SLR disproven by simple experiment!spilgardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-82505331862520734272015-10-13T13:27:33.233+11:002015-10-13T13:27:33.233+11:00Yeah but thermal expansion is proportional to volu...<i>Yeah but thermal expansion is proportional to volume therefore the least amount of thermal expansion happens where the water is shallowest ie at the coast</i><br /><br />Is that you, Nabil?MWSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-71982407941177417932015-10-13T08:24:19.635+11:002015-10-13T08:24:19.635+11:00I actually own that shirt lol. Its really sad how ...I actually own that shirt lol. Its really sad how often i have to explain it to other adults.Someone elsenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-5987605803587924892015-10-13T07:25:46.003+11:002015-10-13T07:25:46.003+11:00Oh, right. So the water expands more in the deep p...Oh, right. So the water expands more in the deep parts of the ocean? And then stays there?<br /><br />Yeah, that works.<br /><br />Anoon 2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-29306554211060022352015-10-13T06:58:36.098+11:002015-10-13T06:58:36.098+11:00Yeah but thermal expansion is proportional to volu...Yeah but thermal expansion is proportional to volume therefore the least amount of thermal expansion happens where the water is shallowest ie at the coastAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-23167193357924794422015-10-13T06:17:18.361+11:002015-10-13T06:17:18.361+11:00You can get a nice t-shirt that shows pi talking t...You can get a nice t-shirt that shows pi talking to i -- pi is telling i, "Get real!", and i retorts, "Be rational!"Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03098542080832687169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-63210238364773294672015-10-13T05:11:35.612+11:002015-10-13T05:11:35.612+11:00I agree completely with both statements.
That, an...I agree completely with both statements.<br /><br />That, and the appearance (however phony) of a scientific dispute over even basic facts of AGW gives fossil-fuel lobbyists and bought-and-paid-for politicians room to push their agenda of uncertainty and delay.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-64553866196185553902015-10-13T04:47:21.524+11:002015-10-13T04:47:21.524+11:00I guess it's true that "you can't pol...I guess it's true that "you can't polish a turd". But, as often demonstrated on WUWT, you <i>can</i> roll it in glitter.John Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04610757244403601917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-48849725645780161642015-10-13T04:42:34.592+11:002015-10-13T04:42:34.592+11:00Heh. The one and only time I ever bothered to post...Heh. The one and only time I ever bothered to post a comment at Andy the Luckwarmer's DotEarth site was in response to a Kip Hansen comment that was all kinds of stupid. In retrospect, I shouldn't have bothered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-77323055719548115972015-10-13T03:33:06.590+11:002015-10-13T03:33:06.590+11:00One should never forget that on the internet you n...One should never forget that on the internet you notice the political extremists. <br /><br />Regular people are totally different. They sometimes listen in, that is the main reason to reply to the extremists. Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-11528088419289468802015-10-13T03:22:04.565+11:002015-10-13T03:22:04.565+11:00Some of the engineering & physics types at WUW...Some of the engineering & physics types at WUWT took issue with that, but were shushed down, on the grounds that it was clear what Hansen meant by his creative (mis)use of the term.<br /><br />Which is pretty funny coming from a group that has spent years milking two out of context lines from stolen emails and one typo in a 3000 page report for all they were worth.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59530726423638392122015-10-13T02:21:56.159+11:002015-10-13T02:21:56.159+11:00Mathematically speaking, imaginary numbers are mul...Mathematically speaking, imaginary numbers are multiples of the square root of negative one, but I don't think that's what they had in mind here somehow.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03098542080832687169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-16402631930740248282015-10-12T11:37:48.509+11:002015-10-12T11:37:48.509+11:00That is so sad.
On the other hand, yesterday I pa...That is so sad.<br /><br />On the other hand, yesterday I participated in a workshop hosted by the North Carolina Coastal Federation where I was repeatedly impressed with the many stories I heard about how regular people really do understand the reality of sea level rise (e.g., that forest I played in as a kid is now a swamp) and were taking active steps to help address problems. E.g., addressing enhanced erosion by creating living shorelines using bagged oyster shells and native marsh grasses. Tom Petersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80368706009408545902015-10-12T08:46:44.061+11:002015-10-12T08:46:44.061+11:00Thanks Susan. Hope you don't mind.
There see...Thanks Susan. Hope you don't mind. <br /><br />There seem to be a lot of deniers who have automatic commenting rights at DotEarth, which spoils the experience, since they seem to hog the blog.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-63619350352973005542015-10-12T03:11:48.403+11:002015-10-12T03:11:48.403+11:00A little startled to find my (true) praise in the ...A little startled to find my (true) praise in the sidebar. We've been enduring Kip for years over at DotEarth, and he's one of the mild ones. Desire not to know seems very powerful there, and a very high opinion of himself.Susan Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16935228911713362040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67848262286508955922015-10-12T02:27:13.067+11:002015-10-12T02:27:13.067+11:00To put Kip Hansen's post and the large majorit...To put Kip Hansen's post and the large majority of the comments it drew into a comprehensible context one has to understand the Dunning-Kruger effect and that WUWT and similar websites act as crank magnets and concentrators.<br /><br />And there's a new Tim Ball post out now too. Whee.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-17438450599594562242015-10-12T01:07:46.202+11:002015-10-12T01:07:46.202+11:00"They usually love satellites as being the an..."<i>They usually love satellites as being the ants pants, absolutely correct - except when they produce results they don't like.</i>"<br /><br />They love the satellite tropospheric temperature trend because you see the trend less given the stronger noise from the stronger influence of El Nino. <br /><br />They often like to claim that satellite temperatures must be right because these satellites are so expensive. <br /><br />The satellite temperatures come from microwave radiometers, which were mainly launched to measure the humidity of the atmosphere for numerical weather prediction. The temperatures themselves thus actually do not cost more than a few scientists working on them part time.<br /><br />The altimeters that measure sea surface rise where developed and launched to measure just that. Surely such expensive instruments cannot be wrong? Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38617203569693092632015-10-11T20:33:23.254+11:002015-10-11T20:33:23.254+11:00Person running out of burning building: "Fire...Person running out of burning building: "Fire, fire! Someone's set fire to the building."<br /><br />Denier: "There has always been fires. Fires were more common in medieval times. Just because people have matches doesn't mean someone started this fire. It's just a conspiracy to keep firefighters employed..."Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-57110559614582317082015-10-11T19:34:27.951+11:002015-10-11T19:34:27.951+11:00When deniers think they like the numbers, then the...When deniers think they like the numbers, then they are pristine and perfect and beyond question. No calling for "code" or questioning of changes over the years. That's off limits in deniersville. (Think of all the changes that UAH lower troposphere temperature has had, while deniers claim it's perfect, has always been perfect and ever shall be perfect - until this coming December or January when it will go through the roof.)<br /><br />When they decide they don't want to believe facts, deniers label the numbers imaginary, or faked, or fudged, or fraudulent. That's how they cope with their denial. They "shoot the messenger".<br /><br />Deniers would be hopeless in a crisis. <br /><br />If a wildfire or flash flood were heading toward them, they'd say it was all in the imagination of the firefighters, or the emergency personnel.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-42407660939411735232015-10-11T18:34:02.626+11:002015-10-11T18:34:02.626+11:00It wouldn't be a post at Anthony's conspir...It wouldn't be a post at Anthony's conspiracy free website if it didn't contain a conspiracy ideation. Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-72632896754060706172015-10-11T18:08:18.143+11:002015-10-11T18:08:18.143+11:00There was a time when the numpties at WUWT were pe...There was a time when the numpties at WUWT were perfectly happy to believe we could measure sea level rise. But that was only when <a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/sea-level-fall-2010.htm" rel="nofollow">confusing short term variability with long term trends</a> allowed them to pretend that sea level was not rising. <br /><br />After that they then decided that a <a href="http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/dr-nils-axel-morners-maldives-tree.html" rel="nofollow">single tree in the Maldives</a> known only to Nils Axel Morner was a better measurement system than satellites. Again, this was conditional on getting the results they wanted.<br />Millicentnoreply@blogger.com