tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post7405290607728050377..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: From C.R. Dickson: A retired chemist's view of global warmingSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-61822834518112102682016-01-14T22:07:04.135+11:002016-01-14T22:07:04.135+11:00Ah, I see others have already mentioned human body...Ah, I see others have already mentioned human body temperature below...<br /><br />Late to the party.Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80822568336450659422016-01-14T22:04:38.400+11:002016-01-14T22:04:38.400+11:00The frustrating thing is that many of us have post...The frustrating thing is that many of us have posted for years about fallacious manipulation of the dependent variable's scaling range, and still the message is unable to skirt the Morton's demons of the Denialati.<br /><br />Nevertheless it might be worth indicating again how the human body's internal temperature responds to temperature change - it's tolerances to hypothermia and hyperthermia are fairly similar to the tolerance of human society and of global biodiversity to changes in mean global temperature.<br /><br />And on the matter of graph construction, lesson 1 in Graphing 101 covers the selection of graph aspect ratios (generally considered to be appropriate between roughly square and somewhere near the golden mean) and axis minima and maxima covering the respective high and low variations in ranges of both the independent and dependent variables, but not much more beyond that required for rounding.<br /><br />Anyone who plots a parameter whose range is less than half of the axis range, or especially less than ~10% of the axis range, is shouting to the world "hey I am totally incompetent in graphing", or "I'm a big fat liar/mendacious propagandist and I think that I can sucker you to Hell and back".Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-16668702930216426902016-01-14T22:02:47.438+11:002016-01-14T22:02:47.438+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-79106686278926739112016-01-14T09:08:25.122+11:002016-01-14T09:08:25.122+11:00I wonder if this would work for blood alcohol offe...I wonder if this would work for blood alcohol offences. You commit an offence once the amount of alcohol in your blood is over 5 mg per 100 ml of blood expressed as a percentage is only 1/100 of the concentration in the average beer and 1/1000 that of an average spirit. <br /><br />Nah those magistrates 'don't know nuffin'. Bert<br /><br />Bert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-86145147800103489402016-01-14T04:14:25.214+11:002016-01-14T04:14:25.214+11:00Out of the three physicists that shared the Nobel ...Out of the three physicists that shared the Nobel Prize in 1973 for quantum tunneling research, Brian Josephson, Ivar Giaever, and Leo Esaki, only Esaki is still sane. Giaever is an AGW denier.<br /><br />Esaki visited my lab several years ago, and the only negative thing I remember is that he had really strong body odor. Leo should call Brian for a homeopathic remedy. What do you know, this odor problem is well known among older Japanese men: http://articles.latimes.com/1999/jul/14/news/mn-55812<br /><br /><br /> @whuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18297101284358849575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-84546234440853082992016-01-14T02:46:09.087+11:002016-01-14T02:46:09.087+11:00Apples, oranges. The Quantcast chart appears to sh...Apples, oranges. The Quantcast chart appears to show the number of unique site visitors for WUWT only, but your scale is Google searches. <br /><br />I'm pretty sure there are a lot more than 3.5 billion person-visits (1 person visiting 1 site) daily. Hell, each search typically leads to multiple site visits. So, I think your 100 billion scale is too small. By a lot.chrisdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-70441679135906632912016-01-14T02:18:17.710+11:002016-01-14T02:18:17.710+11:00Well, that's just an instance of the well know...Well, that's just an instance of the well known Scientific Law of Small Numbers:<br /><br /><i>If a number is small, whatever it represents isn't important.</i><br /><br />Sir Francis Bacon, I believe.chrisdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19521736104515840992016-01-14T00:49:53.834+11:002016-01-14T00:49:53.834+11:00I don't think Smokey/dbs/dboehm/dbstealey poss...I don't think Smokey/dbs/dboehm/dbstealey possesses anything that could be dignified by terms like 'world view'. <br /><br />Sometimes he believes it isn't warming cus the scientists fiddled the data, sometimes he thinks it is warming cus we are coming out of an ice age. Today he thinks its silly to argue whether it is warming or not because by choosing a silly graph scale the issue goes away.<br /><br />Or is this another symptom of multiple personality disorder to go with his use of multiple socks?Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-43619194972072168162016-01-13T23:39:35.768+11:002016-01-13T23:39:35.768+11:00"That is why catastrophic man-made global war...<i>"That is why catastrophic man-made global warming, like all consensus 'science,' will eventually go the way of phlogiston..."</i><br /><br />As DB Stealey's entire world view is based on the existence of phlogiston, it's going to be a big come-down for him when he eventually comes to the realisation that it doesn't exist ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74996782220219934182016-01-13T22:59:20.093+11:002016-01-13T22:59:20.093+11:00Same way they find coal. They dig 'm up from t...Same way they find coal. They dig 'm up from the dirt.cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47890534460112070952016-01-13T22:31:31.491+11:002016-01-13T22:31:31.491+11:00Ha, no worries, saw the comment further down as we...Ha, no worries, saw the comment further down as well. Just discovered this site, nice to find it. Good to have places that update more often than RealClimate so I can get a daily fix.metasyntactic11noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-18701381883476033792016-01-13T21:37:29.507+11:002016-01-13T21:37:29.507+11:00Sorry, I missed this. No - you are correct. I fixe...Sorry, I missed this. No - you are correct. I fixed the chart titles a while ago.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65652562379047959232016-01-13T20:18:46.308+11:002016-01-13T20:18:46.308+11:00Which is why we click here :)Which is why we click here :)cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-29786529070165178692016-01-13T19:48:45.574+11:002016-01-13T19:48:45.574+11:00Or climatically gaga?Or climatically gaga?Raoulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-85384855847869087322016-01-13T18:30:06.291+11:002016-01-13T18:30:06.291+11:00I guess that's a yes. :)I guess that's a yes. :)metasyntactic11noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-66210020968978072942016-01-13T15:24:30.928+11:002016-01-13T15:24:30.928+11:00Being born in 1947 makes Charles Robert Dickson so...Being born in 1947 makes Charles Robert Dickson something of a young pup among WUWTers.<br /><br />But that's enough about him.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-69925734797175882922016-01-13T13:57:50.900+11:002016-01-13T13:57:50.900+11:00Tony B,
Thanks for the links, interesting reading...Tony B,<br /><br />Thanks for the links, interesting reading all. It was personally gratifying to see Jan Perlwitz make many of the same arguments I did but with even deeper understanding and STILL have the result be mpainter recycling the same assertions laced with even more insult and conspiracy ideation. Anthony's comments to painter, and his parting shot closing the thread to comments more than satisfied my more petty delights.<br /><br />Other than that, it was the usual mix of depressing intellectual dishonesty and nitwitted bullshit it always is.<br /><br />I will have to read up more on atmospheric circulation patterns in various regions ... in my case, Wikipedia might actually be a good start ... :)Brandon R. Gateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031044715994785956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-32783127196698606842016-01-13T12:15:49.994+11:002016-01-13T12:15:49.994+11:00Where do they find these retired "scientists&...Where do they find these retired "scientists"? He ends his article like this - very scientific I must say. He has written the article with an agenda in mind. Probably just another pundit for hire.<br /><br />"That is why catastrophic man-made global warming, like all consensus “science,” will eventually go the way of phlogiston, spontaneous generation, and luminiferous ether."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-69873919569815988662016-01-13T10:38:25.347+11:002016-01-13T10:38:25.347+11:00Brandon:
Yes, he got me on that .... one influenc...<br />Brandon:<br /><br />Yes, he got me on that .... one influence is the hydrological cycle that is entirely absent in the Sahara - but also anticyclonic subsidence from the overlying sub-tropical JS, with no advection of surface air into the region. Obviously largely cloudless skies and the insulation provided by the sandy soils.<br />Actually he first came to the attack when I pointed out to someone that the higher SST's over the Great Lakes were contributing to the higher LE snowfall. It was then that I got the "you need to get informed - wiki is a good place to start" bollocks. Well I live on the E coast of England and have been on duty at Lincolnshire RAF bases as a forecaster in such set-ups, as well as in the public sphere forcasting for the county. An (in effect) LE snow set-up occasionally occurs here with deep NE'ly cold from Russia. It is also a particular interest of mine.<br /><br />http://www.drroyspencer.com/2015/11/6-10-of-global-warming-for-chicago-detroit/<br /><br />Anthony Watts March 11, 2015 at 10:28 am....<br />http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/03/10/study-climate-change-is-nothing-new-in-fact-it-was-happening-the-same-way-1-4-billion-years-ago/<br /><br />current thread with "ehak"...<br />http://www.drroyspencer.com/2016/01/uah-v6-global-temperature-update-for-dec-2015-0-44-deg-c/#commentsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17614652735774985250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-82345846851238611612016-01-13T09:51:10.943+11:002016-01-13T09:51:10.943+11:00Tony B,
I actually insulted painter by posting a ...Tony B,<br /><br /><i>I actually insulted painter by posting a post from Watts (himself) that told painter to "rethink his posting style" (must have been bad eh?) - I can't find him on WUWT after that.</i><br /><br />I had been wondering why I haven't seen him at WUWT but still active at Spencer's and possibly his main hero, Steve McIntyre's. My schadenfreude is clamouring for a linky link if it is convenient for you to provide one.<br /><br /><i>Painter seems to have something against ehak ... accuses him of being "Kyle A Hilburn"?</i><br /><br />Yes, according to him, Kyle A Hilburn is an ex-RSS employee, and "ehak" is a sort of anagram of his initials. Whether true or not, I don't know, and certainly have no clue why it's relevant to ehak's posts -- which are clear, logical, often devastating and appear to me to be well-informed -- IOW, a problem which must be swiftly dealt with in any manner available.<br /><br />My first impressions of him were actually positive. He asked me what I still think is a good, reasonable and properly sceptical question: why are daytime temperatures in the Sahara so much hotter than in the Amazon when the latter is closer to the equator? His answer: evaporative cooling at the surface. His failure: not considering the vastly greater diurnal temperature range of the Sahara and the daytime albedo of clouds in the Amazon. After asking him several times, <b>politely</b>, to consider <b>what happens at night</b> in both places, he bizarrely claimed that I didn't understand the concept of latent heat, D-Klared victory, and said that I and my pseudo-scientific ilk "disgusted" him.<br /><br />Nasty is spot on.Brandon R. Gateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031044715994785956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-76577140337069994982016-01-13T08:28:31.952+11:002016-01-13T08:28:31.952+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17614652735774985250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-29070140565462123052016-01-13T08:07:22.261+11:002016-01-13T08:07:22.261+11:00Thanks Brandon, Sue:
I actually insulted painter ...Thanks Brandon, Sue:<br /><br />I actually insulted painter by posting a post from Watts (himself) that told painter to "rethink his posting style" (must have been bad eh?) - I can't find him on WUWT after that.<br /><br />Yes, the usual bollocks - a raging DK syndrome ... but nasty with it.<br />Today I was just defending "ehak" re tide-gauges. <br />Painter seems to have something against ehak ... accuses him of being "Kyle A Hilburn" ?<br /><br />I tell him I'm taking the advice of M twain, and don't wish to enter the rabbit-hole - but I'll see him on the next thread to counter his bollocks.<br />Nothing riles me more than when someone tries to tell me they know more about meteorology than me by referring me to wiki.<br />I could've written the bloody thing!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17614652735774985250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47563756769746747662016-01-13T08:03:37.198+11:002016-01-13T08:03:37.198+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17614652735774985250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6036829940328392622016-01-13T06:33:34.332+11:002016-01-13T06:33:34.332+11:00I quite like the deniers who posts the "CO2 t...I quite like the deniers who posts the "CO2 trace gas" hence inconsequential, meme in the same post as the "CO2 is Plant food" thus of massive consequence meme<br /><br /><br />you wonder who is tying their shoe laces every morning <br /><br />actually scrap that thought - they prob use velcroTadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-54325435230634692052016-01-13T06:24:53.629+11:002016-01-13T06:24:53.629+11:00Sou, considerably off-topic, but considering your ...Sou, considerably off-topic, but considering your skills in making informative graphs...could you take the reconstruction in the paper linked below and plot it on top of MBH99?<br />http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379115301888<br /><br />(the interesting one:<br />https://twitter.com/thirstygecko/status/686640176739684352/photo/1)<br /><br />As John Fleck says: "That looks suspiciously like - I'm trying to remember the name - some sort of winter sports equipment?"Marconoreply@blogger.com