tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post7372834030223438112..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Anthony Watts' protest about Cowtan, Way and the ArcticSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-87007371034457519382013-11-21T11:11:19.057+11:002013-11-21T11:11:19.057+11:00When will there be measurements on how much the in...When will there be measurements on how much the increase in temperature is due to the disintegration of ice which used to reflect sufficiently to keep the planet sufficiently cool to not have to form such large and hazardous hurricanes. Or have the measurements been done ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-64859257997927320382013-11-20T08:11:21.217+11:002013-11-20T08:11:21.217+11:00With such an opinion you can become member of parl...With such an opinion you can become member of parliament, <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/global-warming-proponents-and-sceptics-agree-on-one-point-study-into-myth-of-pause-merits-more-research-8947522.html" rel="nofollow">The Independent</a> reports.<br /><br /><i>The Conservative MP Peter Lilley said that he is not convinced that the latest study can explain the pause. “The IPCC tried to explain the pause by saying the heat is in the deep ocean and now these people say it’s in the polar regions. They both can’t be right,” Mr Lilley said.</i>Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74371806740810767612013-11-16T11:04:44.143+11:002013-11-16T11:04:44.143+11:00That tweet's a beauty.
That thread at the Sti...That tweet's a beauty.<br /><br />That thread at the Sticky Bishop's is something straight out of the Bitter Old Curmudgeon's Twilight Home for the Terminally Bewildered. Unsurprisingly.billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-33700224897206941222013-11-16T08:46:43.199+11:002013-11-16T08:46:43.199+11:00had a bit of a giggle over that remark "hidin...had a bit of a giggle over that remark "hiding in the cold"<br /><br />you only need to look at DMI winter temps to find a lot of heat hiding in the coldjohn byattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-69866476312635012582013-11-16T03:01:33.307+11:002013-11-16T03:01:33.307+11:00Sueing Janice for breaking a vertebrate from falli...Sueing Janice for breaking a vertebrate from falling of chair in stupor. Dunning-Kruger is to this as alchemy is to nuclear fission.<br /><br />I crack down hard on this kind of deplorable ignorance as I do on the denial sect leaders, because I believe in some responsibility /w respect to a right to vote. <br /><br />Looks like a generation has grown up that not asks the teacher a question when something is not understood but instead cusses the teacher and dictates her or him what to think. Pride and arrogance of ignorance (aspects of the sociopathological theatre called 'fascism') have ruined a lot and could destroy the planet.cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80475063954010726852013-11-16T03:01:12.706+11:002013-11-16T03:01:12.706+11:00I LOL'd at that tweet by Gavin Schmidt. Thank...I LOL'd at that tweet by Gavin Schmidt. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.t_p_hamiltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-76741579897268463872013-11-16T02:05:15.661+11:002013-11-16T02:05:15.661+11:00"To suggest that he embarked on this to hide ..."To suggest that he embarked on this to hide the pause is sickening."<br /><br />One has to remember that, for WUWTers, it's all about them.Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-22410511952396522892013-11-16T01:34:02.871+11:002013-11-16T01:34:02.871+11:00Anthony Watts as well as being an offensive bore i...Anthony Watts as well as being an offensive bore is scientifically clueless.<br /><br />Here he is attempting to insert himself into an interesting discussion of the paper at the Blackboard by reciting a claim from Roy Spencer followed by a derogatory comment on the paper.<br />"Roy Spencer says that sat data at the surface on channel 5 (IIRC) is too noisy to be used for a valid signal, so RSS and UAH use Channel 4 at 14,000 feet above surface. Not the same as surface temps at 2meters, so I’m doubtful about the infill method.<br />The whole paper seems like an exercise in desperation to erase “the pause”.<br />http://rankexploits.com/musings/2013/cotwan-and-way-have-they-killed-the-pause/#comment-121089<br /><br />The reaction from Steve Mosher is worth reading in full. Mosher has been collaborating with co-author <a href="http://artsites.uottawa.ca/robert-way/en/background/" rel="nofollow">Robert Way"</a> who is of "Inuit descent (Nunatsiavut Beneficiary)" and has done field work in the Arctic.<br /><br />"1. The method is similar to that used by mcintyre, id, and odonnell.<br />2. The paper was not done to erase the pause.<br />Over the past couple of years I have been working with robert way on a number of small little projects and problems. His chief interest has been getting better and more complete data for an area of the world that he does field research in. Over the course of that time we have discussed many ways to improve our estimates of the northern latitudes. "<br /><br />and<br /><br />"To suggest that he embarked on this to hide the pause is sickening."<br /><br />--<br /><br />There is also a rather infantile take on the paper at Bishop Hill which drew this response from Gavin Schmidt on twitter.<br />"This is a significantly lower bar than Arthur C Clarke had in mind for the inability of some to distinguish science"<br />http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2013/11/15/climate-magic.html<br />MikeHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-64346142853324848282013-11-16T01:14:43.430+11:002013-11-16T01:14:43.430+11:00Janice. "..This stupid paper (given that it r...Janice. "..This stupid paper (given that it reveals ANY truth) does at least indicate that the IPCC models which projected Arctic cooling are even WORSE than we already knew that they were ………."<br /><br />IPCC models projected Arctic cooling? Outstanding! <br />Lars Karlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158469980966810882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-85134433996982444662013-11-16T01:13:14.477+11:002013-11-16T01:13:14.477+11:00You gotta love the false dichotomy (or maybe it...You gotta love the false dichotomy (or maybe it's the excluded middle) concerning heat trapped by greenhouse gasses that is being bandied about all the time at WUWT. It goes something like: "Duh! The heat has to be either in the oceans or on the land. It can't possibly be in both places at the same time. Make up your minds, you stupid climate scientists."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-17174173854451344312013-11-15T23:42:27.743+11:002013-11-15T23:42:27.743+11:00There's this sudden sentence: "And the Ar...There's this sudden sentence: "And the Arctic is sufficiently small that the two reconstructions are very similar."cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31400350950230772962013-11-15T22:57:45.528+11:002013-11-15T22:57:45.528+11:00WUWT comment: "the missing heat is hiding in ...WUWT comment: "<i>the missing heat is hiding in the cold?</i>"<br /><br />Did already someone cite thermodynamics and claim that this is not possible? :-)<br /><br />On first reading, the comments by Judith Curry sounded valuable, but I start to have the feeling that on further investigation they will fall flat. See my <a href="http://variable-variability.blogspot.de/2013/11/temperature-trend-over-last-15-years-is.html#curry" rel="nofollow">preliminary thoughts</a> on her comments.Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.com