tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post7091875640125284712..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: More conspiracy theories: WUWT's Tim Ball plus Judith CurrySouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-61225631177603405242015-04-06T06:41:35.986+10:002015-04-06T06:41:35.986+10:00Heaven help us, even the gummint is reading Curry,...Heaven help us, even the <a href="http://judithcurry.com/2015/03/22/blog-discussions/#comment-686076" rel="nofollow">gummint is reading Curry,</a><br /><br /><i>" I AM a city councilman in the state of Texas and I can assure you the subject of global warming or imagined consequences of same has never been an agenda item and there’s not much likelyhood of that changing in the future. Texas is a conservative state. Global warming is a liberal narrative.. We don’t give it any official attention at all."</i>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12083190014669867976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4808660259997835702015-04-03T23:31:38.893+11:002015-04-03T23:31:38.893+11:00Yep, I was going to suggest that the origins of th...Yep, I was going to suggest that the origins of the Tea Party were particularly interesting in light of this discussion.Lotharssonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53118160814847294852015-04-03T17:39:01.161+11:002015-04-03T17:39:01.161+11:00Most of the comments that followed took it as a si...Most of the comments that followed took it as a sign that they should just use the energy though. People saying they would go run their cars in the driveway, that the electricity is already in surplus so it doesn't help to not use it, make more plant food... <br />It's funny how people were championing Watts solar system, like it makes up for the rest of them. I suggested that he start a foundation to help bring solar to developing areas so they wouldn't be dependent on fossil fuels. <br />I must have caught someone's attention, as ALL my posts must now go through moderation.Someone elsenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38209575346779652572015-04-03T17:24:10.298+11:002015-04-03T17:24:10.298+11:00If Watts does have and "anti Earth Hour"...If Watts does have and "anti Earth Hour" with extra lights on to keep his neighborhood lit, he will do it in spite of his roof top photo voltaics. It's interesting to see the faction of Tea Party folk that advocate solar power not so they can benefit the environment, but so they can stick it to the big quasi- government power company. Averyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00058998965414037964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2524935873385928742015-04-03T17:03:03.342+11:002015-04-03T17:03:03.342+11:00This is where I come from. we had high ideals in t...This is where I come from. we had high ideals in the late sixties. I just do not know what happened. We was robbed!<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqZceAQSJvc<br /><br />I had tickets to see Santana in 1970. Unfortunately my first wedding was the next day. I decided that a night of drunkenness and intake of illicit substances was not a good start. <br /><br />I was wrong! I should have gone! Bert<br />Bert from elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-28825613137630080482015-04-03T13:19:04.029+11:002015-04-03T13:19:04.029+11:00About no evidence again. I vaguely remember a stor...About no evidence again. I vaguely remember a story where police or even dogcatchers in Queensland under Joh could arrest you if your dog was 'at large'. The only proof needed. If you were out in public without your dog, he was obviously 'at large'. BertBert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-25690702473471727692015-04-03T11:33:04.017+11:002015-04-03T11:33:04.017+11:00Perhaps he can explain how the physics behind the ...Perhaps he can explain how the physics behind the US Airforce's heat seeking missiles doesn't work then. :DCeistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-43425462871426108842015-04-03T11:25:34.067+11:002015-04-03T11:25:34.067+11:00Nope. Never heard of him. Lots of people claim the...Nope. Never heard of him. Lots of people claim they can overturn climate science - none have that I'm aware of. (It would require them to overturn a lot of science that isn't related to climate, too.)<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_spectroscopy<br />Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-33429840667278600642015-04-03T11:19:04.097+11:002015-04-03T11:19:04.097+11:00I realise this is somewhat off topic, and apologis...I realise this is somewhat off topic, and apologise if it is inappropriate. <br /><br />I have come across a guy on a YouTube thread called Donald Kasper, who seems to have some genuine expertise on mineralogy. Kasper claims to have evidence that the conventional approach to infrared spectroscopy is dramatically wrong and that his results will overturn climate science.<br /><br />Seems a kook to me, has any one heard of him?Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05866277956979344622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80068110680813764352015-04-03T06:58:41.060+11:002015-04-03T06:58:41.060+11:00To be clear, that 'anyone' was for interes...To be clear, that 'anyone' was for interested readers of the thread, not Lotharsson et al. above. I know you know ;-)BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-36357076904368183672015-04-03T06:55:17.320+11:002015-04-03T06:55:17.320+11:00Just in case anyone hasn't seen it, here's...Just in case anyone hasn't seen it, here's John Mashey's essential history lesson about the real origins of the TEA Party:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.desmogblog.com/2013/02/11/tea-party-tobacco-everywhere-always" rel="nofollow">TEA Party: Tobacco Always Everywhere</a>BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-79521607772029058392015-04-03T03:12:39.280+11:002015-04-03T03:12:39.280+11:00:-):-)Dan Andrewsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-51020703707198787752015-04-02T21:51:22.918+11:002015-04-02T21:51:22.918+11:00Ah, that explains the Tea Party connection:
"...Ah, that explains the Tea Party connection:<br /><br />"Unless of course Obama is really a "fascist," as some T.P.ers have it, because he's a liberal, and liberals are fascists (as we all know from that magisterial work of history, Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg). So instead of the hammer and sickle, draw a little Hitler mustache on Obama's face on your T.P. hate signs. Or better yet, parade around with a swastika! (The Tea Partiers seem to get a special kick out of this, for some reason.)"<br /><br />http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_spectator/2010/04/the_tea_partys_toxic_take_on_history.html<br /><br />I guess when you are a fake movement you don't have any original thinkers so you borrow what you can from the other fruitcakes.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-50487739036169740032015-04-02T21:22:20.592+11:002015-04-02T21:22:20.592+11:00To my knowledge he's never posted a comment he...To my knowledge he's never posted a comment here. Or not using one of his WUWT socks, at any rate. <br /><br />I think I'd have recognised his style - but who knows. There've been quite a few comments from deniers, but none that shrieks "Smokey" that I can recall. I don't often delete comments. And only four or five people have ever been banned - and not because they reject science. It was for other reasons.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19016305383185893642015-04-02T19:58:35.586+11:002015-04-02T19:58:35.586+11:00There is nothing much new at WUWT that I can see. ...There is nothing much new at WUWT that I can see. The memes are being recycled."<br /><br />Too right. I dropped by for the first time in ages and the latest from the WUWT Asylum is a post about the above Twitterstorm in a teacup, and the very first comment takes the inmates into Godwin's Law territory, and off they go down the rabbit hole.<br /><br />Waste of eveyone's time. Though I guess it keeps the inmates off the internet streets. Speaking of which, dbstealey moans, of the indefatigable Brandon Gates:-<br /><br />"Really, the Gates threadbombing over the past year is past tedious. And reading his vile anti-WUWT comments on other blogs is hypocritical. They don’t let me or lots of others comment there."<br /><br />Has anyone seen dbstealey (Dave Stealey, dbs, Smokey) ever try to deploy his library of unprovenanced, shonky charts outside of the security of the WUWT compound? How about offering the poor lamb a guest post at HW? Might increase the gaiety of nations.Phil Clarkenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-3196058947431271982015-04-02T18:49:01.685+11:002015-04-02T18:49:01.685+11:00The swamp runs deep, what sign posts there are are...The swamp runs deep, what sign posts there are aren't anchored to anything particularly solid and they're often written in a dialect called Caninus Tibia (or something like that - my Latin is non-existent). Often your only way of knowing the lay of the land is to use a knowledgeable guide...<br />Lotharssonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-83289253370099863152015-04-02T17:44:39.805+11:002015-04-02T17:44:39.805+11:00The more I learn the more I realise just how much ...The more I learn the more I realise just how much I don't know :)<br /><br />Thanks, Lotharsson.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-35908491229714107572015-04-02T17:25:10.086+11:002015-04-02T17:25:10.086+11:00I should probably clarify that Goldberg was hardly...I should probably clarify that Goldberg was hardly the first to use the term, but his book was one of the most prominent examples of usage in the last couple of decades that I'm aware of.Lotharssonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-61539593075050533712015-04-02T17:17:06.234+11:002015-04-02T17:17:06.234+11:00"Liberal fascist" probably came original..."Liberal fascist" probably came originally from Jonah Goldberg's similarly titled book which aimed to project fascism onto the left wing of politics in order to deflect attention from the creeping fascism evident in much of right wing politics in the US, and to give air cover to right wing echo chamber sources & repeaters who wish to broadcast that projection as if it were fact.<br /><br />Dave Niewert, who knows his stuff in this area, wrote a bunch of articles about it and in his summary (<a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com.au/2008/01/liberal-fascism-response.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>) simply called the book "fraudulent". That summary links to his articles - try reading the major ones (marked with an asterisk). You'll probably rapidly conclude that this is no superficial drive by review, and that his "fraudulent" conclusion is well justified. Also, it's fascinating reading, as is much of the rest of his website. (You'll get a sense of how comprehensive his knowledge is and how well researched most of his stuff is...)Lotharssonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-62062528958470471532015-04-02T11:38:07.771+11:002015-04-02T11:38:07.771+11:00Without exaggeration, Climate Etc comments have be...Without exaggeration, Climate Etc comments have become indistinguishable from those on WUWT. The trend was inevitable I suppose. <br />Today Rud Istvan is saying that the Arctic ice recovery will cause an embarrassing backdown in AR6. PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-64673433528024455292015-04-02T03:57:56.628+11:002015-04-02T03:57:56.628+11:00Such a pity that climate dissenters have no moneta...Such a pity that climate dissenters have no monetary incentive to publish their consensus-breaking research!<br /><br />If only charitable organizations, like say, oil companies, were able to establish a fund to steer money toward such emeritus scientists...<br /><br />Of course, since those Patrons of Good Science are so very modest, they could funnel the money thru several level of dummy organizations, towards biddable think-tanks and similiar high-minded entities...<br /><br />But that's crazy talk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-28456590005909253502015-04-02T03:29:45.140+11:002015-04-02T03:29:45.140+11:00I've been watching out for WUWT to show that v...I've been watching out for WUWT to show that video, Eli. Maybe Anthony will put it up tomorrow :)Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-75637963157221744182015-04-02T03:24:41.996+11:002015-04-02T03:24:41.996+11:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgrHMVdF0lM&fe...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgrHMVdF0lM&feature=youtu.beEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65539552371618369402015-04-01T21:05:31.286+11:002015-04-01T21:05:31.286+11:00Liberals are on the political left and fascists on...Liberals are on the political left and fascists on the far right.<br /><br />Perhaps politics is topologically similar to the old Asteroids computer game.<br /><br />To become a Liberal Fascist you disappear off to the far left and reappear on the far right<br /><br />Entropic mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-82453633864205763192015-04-01T17:29:04.888+11:002015-04-01T17:29:04.888+11:00"And heaven forbid any scientist wanting a su..."And heaven forbid any scientist wanting a sustainable biosphere. Heck - they shouldn't be advocating a responsible attitude to the environment, they should be supporting our rapid demise."<br /><br />Curry is not the only one advocating such nonsense. Watts posted an "anti Earth Hour" article the other day, stating he would be spending the hour turning extra lights on to make sure his neighborhood didn't go too dark. The feedback in the comments was horrendous, echoing the sentiment that waste was necessary and they should be doing their part to increase the CO2 in the atmosphere. <br /><br />I really got to dbstealey in there, it was pretty funny to watch him implode. After repeated calls for my identity, I let him know that if Watts endorses his badgering he would implement an OAuth Real Identity policy and that he could remove the ability for people to post anonymously or with nicknames. Of course, that was edited out by the moderator.Someone elsenoreply@blogger.com