tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post6624286154807652145..comments2024-02-12T15:25:44.028+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: SciAm article gets climate science deniers to shout denial about their denial...Souhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80155290403118327172016-08-23T18:14:50.682+10:002016-08-23T18:14:50.682+10:00re the Fox News - whilst on hols I watched an inte...re the Fox News - whilst on hols I watched an interesting documentary that looked at the US right wing media from a very personal perspective called "The Brain Washing of my Dad<br /><br />http://www.thebrainwashingofmydad.com/<br /><br />it featured (quite heavily) a guy called David Brock - wow, quite a strange looking fellow!!!!Tadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-1588463340585445832016-08-23T15:35:49.667+10:002016-08-23T15:35:49.667+10:00I can see the analogy with the idiocy shown by the...I can see the analogy with the idiocy shown by the uneducated to be only informed by Fox News and other right wing outlets of fiction. They live in a bubble of misinformation. It has totally misfired as a rank outsider has taken all these carefully groomed idiots as his supporters. They have been told repeatedly that the main stream media lies. The GOP establishment cannot stop this train wreck as they have lost control!<br /><br />I will not use his name as he is the greatest at whatever he does. His hands are guilty!<br /><br />The trouble with useful idiots is that another demagogue can steal them from you. <br /><br /><br />This sort of insanity is not as endemic in Australia yet. Where low information voters vote for people who are not at all interested in their own wellbeing by being misinformed.<br /><br />Sou does a very good job of eviscerating deniers. We should not give them the status of martyrs. <br /><br />Deniers are just poorly informed nutjobs! Their more knowledgeable leaders are criminals by their acts and intent.<br /><br />I could go on to show that nothing has changed over millennia. Many religions in the past have murdered countless humans to satisfy their rites. This is still happening!<br />The Aztecs were quite brutal with their human sacrifice where they would ....<br /><br />Maybe they deserved the Spanish along with their pox!<br />If I have offended anybody I hope so!<br />Bert<br /><br />Bert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-32283527443824212292016-08-23T10:13:51.076+10:002016-08-23T10:13:51.076+10:00Well, if the ever-patient Victor does ever have to...Well, if the ever-patient Victor does ever have to open his own Witless Protection Program / Secure Twilight Home for the Terminally Deluded I'm sure we'd all chip in for the upkeep fees! ... ;-)billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-50977979206234542952016-08-23T04:00:27.129+10:002016-08-23T04:00:27.129+10:00I see what you mean: if only the damn scientists h...I see what you mean: if only the damn scientists had stuck to the science instead of getting political blah blah blah. Its a shame but you might be right: I had a happy dream of a tearful Anthony having to hide out at Victor's place (Victor seems more forgiving than most) and sleeping on his sofa.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-69615460243264017482016-08-22T23:51:50.586+10:002016-08-22T23:51:50.586+10:00I had an exchange with Eric where I asked him what...I had an exchange with Eric where I asked him what it would take for him to accept Climate Change. He replied, "If the ice totally melts in the Arctic". This shows the level of idiocy we are dealing with. If he was in a leaky boat, he wouldn't accept the boat was in trouble and do something about it until it had already sunk, and it is far too late.CharlesNagynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-71991918412609746532016-08-22T18:44:41.946+10:002016-08-22T18:44:41.946+10:00@ Victor
Thanks, I read that exchange
Their mi...@ Victor <br /><br />Thanks, I read that exchange <br /><br />Their mind-set is extraordinary<br /><br />and the exchange shows a simple example of bad faith JAQing, with no real attempt to understand the answers you providedTadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59718457718738163942016-08-22T18:43:35.134+10:002016-08-22T18:43:35.134+10:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-37844570566378713022016-08-22T17:33:33.822+10:002016-08-22T17:33:33.822+10:00I reckon that's not how it works, Millicent.
...I reckon that's not how it works, Millicent.<br /><br />It'll be all our fault - we should have found a route to tiptoe around their implacable, bloody-minded stupidity! If only we'd been had the forethought to be the kind of people they find plausible, and hadn't clung tenaciously to facts that their world view could simply not be expected to countenance. We just weren't <i>reasonable</i>...<br /><br />And, anyway, the last tenacious limpets still clinging to the rusting hulks that are the WUWTs, JoNovas and Bishop Hills of this world will go to their watery graves full of a Malcolm-Ieuian: Roberts style shiny-eyed conviction that they were right all along, it was only reality that chose, inexplicably, to let the side down...billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-36272732668102094982016-08-22T16:10:01.839+10:002016-08-22T16:10:01.839+10:00Imagine what would happen if the red necked gun to...Imagine what would happen if the red necked gun toting dupes ever realised that they had been conned into destroying the futures of themselves and their own children. If that ever happened the 'leaders of AGW denial' would need protection from their former followers.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-56069390784732628922016-08-22T13:30:49.196+10:002016-08-22T13:30:49.196+10:00So let Me get this straight , the mentally disturb...So let Me get this straight , the mentally disturbed anti-science climate denier brigade are getting upset because They've been outed as mentally disturbed anti-science climate deniers ? When can We have them committed , not just for their own safety but the safety of the planet ?Melnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-8411022270463626762016-08-22T10:12:53.008+10:002016-08-22T10:12:53.008+10:00bill said:
I suspect strongly I'm hardly alon...bill said:<br /><br /><i>I suspect strongly I'm hardly alone.</i><br /><br />I largely agree with you as far as the leaders of the AGW deniers go, but it's not that clear cut with the followers. The right wing authoritarian follower types (which comprise probably 90+ percent of the LOL WUTTers) will agree with anyone who promises to cut their taxes, damned be to those who think that's not the best for all of humanity. And they apparently don't see far beyond that.<br /><br />A small portion of the rest of us, and I include bill in this assessment, are a little bit more empathic than that, and all the rest... I hope.metzomagichttp://metzomagic.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-1036349894225187822016-08-21T19:53:38.672+10:002016-08-21T19:53:38.672+10:00Let me be frank here for any deniers who may be lu...Let me be frank here for any deniers who may be lurking. <br /><br />Whereas I'm hardly qualified to assess the finer points of your individual pathologies in the DSM V sense - and not much interested, frankly - I sincerely believe you are all, collectively, intellectually dysfunctional; that your ideological commitments are <i>literally</i> insane in the vernacular sense; to be blunt, that you are all hopelessly maladapted to the realities of life in the 21st Century, and that you represent one of the gravest threats that civilization faces in the course of it.<br /><br />I suspect strongly I'm hardly alone.billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-24241254122361832352016-08-21T18:09:54.645+10:002016-08-21T18:09:54.645+10:00It's the same reaction they had to Lewandowsky...It's the same reaction they had to Lewandowsky et. al. Once a psychologist is involved, trying to get to the bottom of why deniers are in denial, they throw the "you're calling us mentally ill!!1!!" card.metzomagichttp://metzomagic.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53630936190807215942016-08-20T20:52:56.728+10:002016-08-20T20:52:56.728+10:00Roberts appears like a political wing of Ian Plime...Roberts appears like a political wing of Ian Plimer, the mining consultant aspect gave me that idea.<br /><br />Lionel Ahttp://lionels.orpheusweb.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89809928139782916672016-08-18T06:29:22.500+10:002016-08-18T06:29:22.500+10:00Eric Worrall asked me on my blog: "How do you...<a href="http://variable-variability.blogspot.com/2013/09/reviews-of-ipcc-review.html?showComment=1381071514684#c813931762265059121" rel="nofollow">Eric Worrall asked</a> me on my blog: "<i>How do you know the climate didn't actually cool?</i>". (After mentioning the lines of evidence, he was no longer interested in the discussion.)<br /><br />That suggests he is not one of those "credible skeptics".Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-48539359090723522522016-08-18T06:26:52.904+10:002016-08-18T06:26:52.904+10:00There are already two articles on Malcolm Roberts ...There are already two articles on Malcolm Roberts humiliating himself in public. <br /><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/16/qa-brian-cox-brings-graphs-malcolm-roberts" rel="nofollow">Basics.</a><br /><br /><a href="https://andthentheresphysics.wordpress.com/2016/08/17/katie-mack-brian-cox-and-eric-idle/" rel="nofollow">After match.</a><br />Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-71660064257765411982016-08-18T03:18:03.635+10:002016-08-18T03:18:03.635+10:00I'm happy to see that Bob Cherba is worrying a...I'm happy to see that Bob Cherba is worrying about going to jail for being a climate change denier. At the very least those people who took money from the fossil fuel industry in return for betraying the futures of billions of people, and those in the industry who paid them to do so, should be heading that way.Millicentnoreply@blogger.com