tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post5408457495547793370..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: It'd be the sun, if we could only explain it...Souhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-22098882842881881022013-10-13T13:49:13.500+11:002013-10-13T13:49:13.500+11:00Rattus, Ch 5 p 5-8 of the IPCC report states there...Rattus, Ch 5 p 5-8 of the IPCC report states there is a difference of around 0.1% in TSI over the solar cycle. I didn't look further to see if that translates to the same difference at the surface, but I don't see that it would be too different.<br /><br /><i>Typical changes measured over an 11-year solar cycle are 0.1% for TSI and up to several percent for the ultra-violet (UV) part of SSI (see Section 8.4).</i><br /><br />As Leif pointed out, something in his working is not right.<br /><br />And then Stan makes a giant leap to try to argue that "it's the sun" is responsible for the huge rise in surface temperature over the past few decades. And he hasn't even tried to explain where he's hidden all the heat from the rise in greenhouse gases.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-73249427519050569712013-10-13T08:05:02.714+11:002013-10-13T08:05:02.714+11:00And TSI oscillations of variable amplitude are eve...And TSI oscillations of variable amplitude are even more of a headache for the Sun-wot-dunnit persuasion.<br /><br />Here's a hugely scaled-up <a href="https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/www.moyhu.org/Hx/plotterv2.htm#HxB1?HxG=%5B%5B1900,2012,'Sunspot%20TSI%20proxy',%5B95,152%5D,0,%5B%5D%5D,%5B%5B%5B-221.78,411.4%5D,20,0,%5B1979,2000%5D%5D%5D,%5B%5B%5B7,7%5D,7,0,%5B3,%5B1900,2012%5D%5D,0%5D%5D%5D" rel="nofollow">pretty picture of TSI variability</a> derived from sunspot number observations. I have risked a quadratic fit. But hey, it's the Internet!BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-41437992149458178342013-10-13T07:47:31.518+11:002013-10-13T07:47:31.518+11:00TSI oscillations of constant amplitude can't p...TSI oscillations of constant amplitude can't produce an upward <i>trend</i> in OHC.<br /><br />BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-43906233644401874432013-10-13T06:00:44.802+11:002013-10-13T06:00:44.802+11:00I looked at the ACRIM data using the old Mk I eyeb...I looked at the ACRIM data using the old Mk I eyeball and it would seem that old Stan is off by a factor of about 10 in the size of the variations from peak to trough in the solar cycle. It seems to vary from ~1361 w/m**2 to about ~1362 w/m**2. But if the number he cited was actually a percentage, then .09% peak to trough is about right.<br /><br />Christ, can't even read a graph and spews out BS as a result.Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.com