tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post5092114686174676504..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Dave Burton wants to level the seas at WUWTSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-29183247946452756022016-05-27T05:43:14.047+10:002016-05-27T05:43:14.047+10:00Thank you for the interesting article Sou.
I could...Thank you for the interesting article Sou.<br />I couldn't resist reposting it at my info kiosk.<br />http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/05/hotwhopper-does-dave-burton-claims.htmlcitizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-78356533642618745312016-04-11T00:37:08.731+10:002016-04-11T00:37:08.731+10:00That student video on isostatic rebound is delight...That student video on isostatic rebound is delightful. We're scheduled to talk about SLR on Thursday and I'll show it to the class then. The video explains how concepts we've already covered (Milankovitch cycles, etc) tie in with GIA, etc as an interconnected whole. <br /><br />Many thanks for the pointer. Anyone who hasn't already looked at that video really should do so.Raymond Arritthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04648714314250278353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-20100693041184018322016-04-09T19:49:48.363+10:002016-04-09T19:49:48.363+10:00It's weird to see people complaining about &qu...It's weird to see people complaining about "politically corrupted agencies" who vote Republican. They must think there is a right kind of political corruption.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-52027527824894684642016-04-09T16:49:00.415+10:002016-04-09T16:49:00.415+10:00Yeah. I splash that talk around quite liberally i...Yeah. I splash that talk around quite liberally in some discussions. Particularly helpful when you're dealing with real fence-sitter lukewarmers. adeladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59759950571065487072016-04-09T13:07:11.775+10:002016-04-09T13:07:11.775+10:0040 years since I read that book. Must read it aga...40 years since I read that book. Must read it again.Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-32877966678814369682016-04-09T12:50:53.861+10:002016-04-09T12:50:53.861+10:00Save the bombardier.Save the bombardier.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-50658733434992718512016-04-09T12:20:55.578+10:002016-04-09T12:20:55.578+10:00Sea level is comparable to the level of a liquid-i...Sea level is comparable to the level of a liquid-in-glass thermometer, with the added complication that liquid is being added to the 'thermometer' via loss of land ice through various mechanisms. And as many have noted, the oceans are an enormous, poorly-mixed calorimeter integrating GHG-driven radiative disequilibrium.<br /><br />The climate science deniers are appropriately enough out of their depth (over their heads, lost at sea) when it comes to attempts at rebutting sea level rise. "It's been rising since the end of the last ice age" or "There are ancient cities under xx feet of water before there we used coal and oil" seems to be the best they can do.<br /><br />Patrick Moore, well, what can you say? The deniers are scraping the bottom of the barrel.<br /><br />Excellent lecture by Mitrovic, by the way. I've read some of his papers but hadn't seen him speak or lecture before... I'll have to look for more of them. He's exceptionally clear and focused.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-87008995938127359332016-04-09T11:07:49.361+10:002016-04-09T11:07:49.361+10:00Dave Burton!! Talk about a blast from the past. ...Dave Burton!! Talk about a blast from the past. He used to infest the comments at Climate Crocks (or was it Open Mind). Either way, he's got money in the deny-rising-sea-levels-at-any-cost game. He's on the board of the crowd of real estate/ coast development folks who got North Carolina to pass that daft regulation in 2012. <br /><br />>>>This version of the bill made it to the committee after NC-20, a nonprofit governmental group stacked with coastal development and real estate interests (see "Who is NC-20?" below), successfully persuaded a science panel of the Coastal Resources Commission to significantly change its policy proposal. Those amendments included restricting state and local governments to using only select historical data to predict sea level rise. Under those conditions, the forecast is not 3 feet, but 8 inches. On Tuesday, the full Senate passed the bill, 35-12. It now goes to the House. <<< <br />http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/the-agenda-behind-the-sea-level-rise-bill-from-the-carolina-coast-to-the-kochs/Content?oid=3084685<br /><br />He's a strong contender for the paradigm case of Upton Sinclair's quote ... <br />“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” adeladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39545209989971737942016-04-09T10:38:07.768+10:002016-04-09T10:38:07.768+10:00I wonder if this is the same Dave Burton from Texa...I wonder if this is the same Dave Burton from Texas who authored a lot of garbage about the U.S. being a Christian nation. His stock in trade for that argument was to provide quotes from founders with the word "not" elided out, to the effect that something like "I do not believe X" would be quoted as "I .. believe X".<br />James McDonaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74549447114095306972016-04-09T10:33:49.775+10:002016-04-09T10:33:49.775+10:00There is some more reading material here including...There is some more reading material here including a definition of GMSL<br /><br />http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/what-definition-global-mean-sea-level-gmsl-and-its-rate<br />MikeHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-29237660846206577682016-04-09T10:06:47.163+10:002016-04-09T10:06:47.163+10:0040 years since I read that book. Must read it aga...40 years since I read that book. Must read it again.Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-56129580646614103302016-04-09T06:29:00.331+10:002016-04-09T06:29:00.331+10:00Great article, Sou, as always.
I've found th...Great article, Sou, as always. <br /><br />I've found this <a href="http://www.columbia.edu/~mhs119/SeaLevel/SL.1900-2016.gif" rel="nofollow">composite SLR curve</a> on <a href="http://www.columbia.edu/~mhs119/SeaLevel/" rel="nofollow">James Hansen's website</a> very helpful for visualising the rate of change in SLR over the last century or so. BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-68471091426753416422016-04-09T05:40:20.265+10:002016-04-09T05:40:20.265+10:00I don't understand how the WUWT followers can ...<i>I don't understand how the WUWT followers can keep going with such cognitive dissonance, I would think it would be unbearable.</i><br /><br />Ah, but that's the sheer beauty of cognitive dissonance: they don't realise they're doin' it :-)<br /><br />In fact, it's almost as good as Catch-22:<br /><br />There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane, he had to fly them. If he flew them, he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to, he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.<br />"That's some catch, that Catch-22," he observed.<br />"It's the best there is," Doc Daneeka agreed.<br /><br />Source: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Catch-22#Chapter_5metzomagichttp://metzomagic.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-51390291265655575872016-04-09T04:46:14.102+10:002016-04-09T04:46:14.102+10:00Thanks - you do a great job there.Thanks - you do a great job there.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53887364943719735412016-04-09T03:15:22.267+10:002016-04-09T03:15:22.267+10:00I don't know how you have time to make pull su...I don't know how you have time to make pull such wonderful information together and present it so clearly, but I appreciate the background explanations, and enjoy the commentary (very nice summary tide gauge chart and linear fits). I don't understand how the WUWT followers can keep going with such cognitive dissonance, I would think it would be unbearable. Torr Oslohttp://torroslo.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4268719869299753492016-04-09T02:22:55.331+10:002016-04-09T02:22:55.331+10:00As one of the moderators of the NASA CC Facebook p...As one of the moderators of the NASA CC Facebook page and responder to questions on the NASA Global Climate Change website, I greatly appreciate your response!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-44521141203662320792016-04-09T02:12:50.678+10:002016-04-09T02:12:50.678+10:00great video from Jerry Mitrovica,
and it just sho...great video from Jerry Mitrovica,<br /><br />and it just shows how counter intuitive some science can be <br /><br />a great rule of thumb I wish deniers would observe<br /><br />scientist are either<br /><br />1. inept<br />2. fraudulent<br />3. or have a better understanding of the physics than you do<br /><br />and it is %99.9 of the time number 3<br /><br />Tadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-24575074614890913932016-04-08T22:03:13.188+10:002016-04-08T22:03:13.188+10:00I believe that weather forecasting using chicken b...I believe that weather forecasting using chicken bones et al ended at the time when scientific forecasting methods became available. Obviously, in this suspicious coincidence, there was a conspiracy to defraud somebody or other.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39295007010455496842016-04-08T21:42:52.300+10:002016-04-08T21:42:52.300+10:00I've added another video - a short interview w...I've <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2016/04/dave-burton-wants-to-level-seas-at-wuwt.html#videochurch" rel="nofollow">added another video</a> - a short interview with John Church of CSIRO.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.com