tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post5002524279040581057..comments2024-02-12T15:25:44.028+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Right wing anti-intellectuals can't get into university - so implies the dimwits at WUWTSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-37147593066980639472018-04-10T05:37:50.538+10:002018-04-10T05:37:50.538+10:00There may be another motive for running stories on...There may be another motive for running stories on the extravagances of climate scientists. Heartland employees are busy concocting stories in defence of one very naughty boy who really has been <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxhtJXbaT3s" rel="nofollow">extravagant at the taxpayer's expense</a>.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-75271189257366170942018-04-08T18:03:57.603+10:002018-04-08T18:03:57.603+10:00This talking point has been floating around for ye...This talking point has been floating around for years, usually brought up by the more dimwitted among the already intellectually challenged denier flock. For them to regurgitate it now and give it a bit more emphasis just shows how desperate they must be. <br /><br />_ Dang, we don't have any science to fight the alarmists with. Hey, Eric can you bring me your "bag-of-stupid" and see what we can dredge up.<br />_ No problem Anthony; that's my favourite bag. I carry it with me everywhere.<br />_ You know, Eric. The alarmists think they're smart but we're even smarter. Eric, I'm so smart I just made up a word _ "smartererer". <br />_ Does it mean smarter than smart?<br />_ I knew you were intelligent, Eric. Not many people would have guessed that. <br />_ To come up with that...YOU'RE the genius. Can I kiss you?<br />_ Shssss...not here Eric. For goodness sake, not in public.<br />Ok. Where was I. You got me flustered with the kissing business. Ah, yes, how smart we are. See, what we do is, we don't need to pore over scientific papers; look at evidence, facts, measurements etc. We let the alarmists do all the hard work and then watch how they behave. You've got to be cunning like a fox; take short cuts. To preserve brain cells, you have to do as little thinking as possible. <br />_ Wow. I think we're meant for each other, Anthony. Can I hug you. <br />_ Not here (pushes him away)<br />_ Sorry Anthony. In your presence I can't contain myself. But I know what you're saying is true because that's what I've done instinctively all my life. If I think more than five minutes my brain gets tired, so I try not to do too much.<br />_ We skip the unnecessary work and just watch how they behave and we'll know for sure if there's something to worry about with this "Knowbull Warming". Look Eric, I invented another word _ "knowbull". Hahahahahaha. It's so funny this one. I'd better stop. My brain is getting tired already from inventing these words.<br />(Eric is rolling on the floor laughing). Alright, alright, that's enough Eric. <br />All these things they're telling us are bad, that's all bunkum. They're all scientific hoaxes. I know smoking is safe because a doctor I knew used to smoke... and drink too. What about speeding. They say speeding is dangerous...what a load of crap. Cops speed all the time. If speeding was dangerous there wouldn't be a cop alive; and all racing car drivers would be dead too. You see Eric, what all those so-called smart people have missed is that nobody has ever died from speeding unless they've hit something _ another car, a tree etc. So speeding, in itself, is not dangerous. You just have to avoid hitting something. And of course Knowbull Warming. You see, Eric, if alarmist science was so sound they'd be alarmed and not one of them would be doing any carbon-emitting activity. The fact that they are means that the science is bs. The logic is irrefutable. I know it's so because every time I run that argument past an alarmist, they shake their heads. That's another irrefutable observation of mine. If an alarmist shakes his head it means he has no answer to my foolproof logic. <br />_ Gee, Anthony. I get so excited listening to you. <br />_ Oh, for goodness sake, Eric. Is that an erection? Quick, go and hide behind that tree before someone notices.<br /><br />Meanwhile, somewhere in the woods of red-state Texas, a lone climate scientist is trying to set an example. He is writing a scientific paper by the light of a candle. Poor man; he only got back from sailing to Europe _ a six month return journey _ and he didn't even make it to that scientific conference he was so looking forward to. Missed it by a week because the winds weren't favourable on the way there. <br /><br />And now deniers have scrawled graffiti on his window _ "Hypocrite scum! That candle is emitting CO2!"Jpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06909695595566012525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-83081171401965727602018-04-08T15:52:04.982+10:002018-04-08T15:52:04.982+10:00Eric has done a "Brave Sir Robin", as is...Eric has done a "Brave Sir Robin", as is his habit.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-24285910058815543392018-04-08T00:51:29.109+10:002018-04-08T00:51:29.109+10:00I was going to make the simple observation that th...I was going to make the simple observation that the underlying premise of Worral's argument of the nonsignificance of human-caused global warming is completely invalidated by the logical fallacy in which he has engaged, and ask him if he has the nous to understand which fallacy it is. The only problem is that Frank Rosser beat me to it, and laid it down for all to see.<br /><br />The point remains though that Worral has never once raised any point of fact that counters the seriousness and urgency of the climate change problem. He's selling smoke, pure and simple.Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-21509867928711406302018-04-06T03:03:46.119+10:002018-04-06T03:03:46.119+10:00Let's do the math. How many miles a year does ...Let's do the math. How many miles a year does a frequent flyer climate scientist rack up on his account? 10,000? 20,000? Let's say 20,000.<br /><br />Aviation is responsible for 2% to possibly 5% of annual emissions. About 50 billion miles are flown every year. 20,000 miles is 0.0000004 of 50 billion miles, or (please check my math) 0.00004% of that total. But that includes every single person on all those flights. There are 3 to 4 billion people taking air flights every year.<br /><br />So, that climate scientist, if he flies to 4 conferences a year is therefore a passenger about eight to ten times that year. That frequent-flying climate scientist is responsible for (3.5) X (10) = 35 billionths of the 0.00004% of total air miles flown.<br /><br /> And that resulting fraction needs to be multiplied by 1/50 or 1/20 to come up with the total carbon footprint those 20,000 miles of air travel he is responsible for. I can't even do the math - the numbers require scientific notation they are so small and I am hopeless at it.<br /><br />But can we agree? This is a really really small number in the grand scheme of things. A number that does not justify being called a hypocrite. A number that has a gigantic ROI considering how important is the work of a climate scientist.Gingerbakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14211637630936981883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-41342638312210794292018-04-05T19:14:37.306+10:002018-04-05T19:14:37.306+10:00In case you missed it. This from the chief dimwit ...In case you missed it. This from the chief dimwit at WUWT endorsing censorship of a scientific report.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/wattsupwiththat/status/981167663027183618?s=21<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31160728621518873442018-04-05T16:09:11.497+10:002018-04-05T16:09:11.497+10:00Sounds an aweful lot like an apologia pro vita sua...Sounds an aweful lot like an apologia pro vita sua to me.Peter Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-11826281479731420842018-04-04T17:00:59.723+10:002018-04-04T17:00:59.723+10:00I'm pretty sure that if leftist academics, Al ...I'm pretty sure that if leftist academics, Al Gore, and ministers attending climate negotiations were to all stop flying in airplanes, the airline industry would collapse from lack of passengers. <br />I figured this out by reading climate deniers. Whenever they fret about airplanes contributing to global warming, it is because of the above-named populations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-76048771584845263062018-04-04T08:55:19.607+10:002018-04-04T08:55:19.607+10:00Richard Mercer:
"A friend of mine was an R&a...Richard Mercer:<br /><br />"A friend of mine was an R&D engineer for the old Digital Equipment computer company. He told me that Digital had the largest private "airforce" in the U.S., because the company founder felt it was that important to have face to face meetings. This included fixed wing and helicopter aircraft."<br /><br />That DEC helicopter shuttle from Logan Airport (Boston) to Maynard, MA (DEC HQ) sure saved me a ton of hassle back in the day ...<br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-50572777182861456912018-04-04T02:57:03.596+10:002018-04-04T02:57:03.596+10:00Driving from Australia to Europe (or North America...<i>Driving from Australia to Europe (or North America, or anywhere else) is not possible. </i> <br />Tisk tisk, a decent sail boat should get you to within railway distance of Paris in about 6 months with minimal carbon expenditures. I am sure that is how Eric travels.<br /><br />On a more serious note, I understand Kevin Anderson's point but I think he should also consider if a judicious uses of flying might be a good idea. If one is a climate scientist one should try to stay at the cutting edge of the field and from what I read, and old confernence attendence (in another disipline) I suspect direct personal contact with other researchers results in a synergistic effect.<br /><br />Also, from a cynical point of view, unless enough people emulate him that the airlines cut back by a flight, his reduction in carbon production is purely notional. jrkrideauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869979887929067657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-11178703608506673072018-04-03T19:52:38.145+10:002018-04-03T19:52:38.145+10:00Hey Eric: in this latest news report your Russian ...Hey Eric: in <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSwLfrNsuLI" rel="nofollow">this latest news report</a> your Russian pals are repeatedly accused of being in denial. Doesn't that mean - according to climate change denier logic - the nasty western media are linking them to the holocaust?Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-72397456125128644092018-04-03T14:52:28.928+10:002018-04-03T14:52:28.928+10:00A friend of mine was an R&D engineer for the o...A friend of mine was an R&D engineer for the old Digital Equipment computer company. He told me that Digital had the largest private "airforce" in the U.S., because the company founder felt it was that important to have face to face meetings. This included fixed wing and helicopter aircraft.Richard Mercernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19132429076843834362018-04-03T11:48:11.066+10:002018-04-03T11:48:11.066+10:00Plus in science the convenient teleconference time...Plus in science the convenient teleconference times for Europe and America (afternoon in Europe), which makes up the bulk of the researchers, is rather unfortunate for Australia (and East Asia).Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6621464051347520822018-04-03T11:35:21.151+10:002018-04-03T11:35:21.151+10:00>>I am happy that most of my colleagues are ...>><i>I am happy that most of my colleagues are in Europe and that we have good public transport.</i><br /><br />Driving from Australia to Europe (or North America, or anywhere else) is not possible. Our cross-nation public transport stinks, too. That's why the Melbourne-Sydney route is one of the busiest air routes in the world. The train service is woeful - old-style third world "comfort", slow and unreliable.<br /><br />Our nationwide communications lie somewhere between fair and appalling, which is why I complained about teleconferences and web meetings being difficult at best.<br /><br />And don't get me started on our support for climate science - or lack of, or action to reduce carbon emissions...Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-48468051595590437222018-04-03T11:24:01.221+10:002018-04-03T11:24:01.221+10:00OMG - Eric discovered that two people went to Tahi...OMG - Eric discovered that two people went to Tahiti ten years ago. And they flew in an aeroplane instead of rowing a boat. That *proves* climate change is a hoax.<br /><br />Imagine if they were climate migrants from the UK and flew to sunny (and stormy, flood-prone) Queensland. That would have the hoax signed, sealed and delivered.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-45164353616316971122018-04-03T11:08:36.847+10:002018-04-03T11:08:36.847+10:00I would not have to steal email to know that top s...I would not have to steal email to know that top scientists have to travel a lot because many want to hear their advice. Nor would I need such criminal acts to know that for the maximum a civil servant is allowed to spend it is sometimes hard to get a decent place to stay the night.<br /><br />While you can find a few dozen bloggers in a medium sized city or region and it is easy to find a few dozen conspiracy theorists in a small region, there are only a few dozen people in the entire world that have sufficient expertise to help me in my research.<br /><br />I am happy that most of my colleagues are in Europe and that we have good public transport. America could start building up their crumbling infrastructure that civil engineers give a grade of D. But the same demographics that populates WUWT are not speaking up that their president is breaking his campaign promises again and does nothing on that front. A decent rail network would reduce the need for flights a lot. Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39808821907338663002018-04-03T09:51:40.359+10:002018-04-03T09:51:40.359+10:00Climate change deniers would not miss an opportuni...Climate change deniers would not miss an opportunity for a Tu quoque claim. The fact that such a claim is fallacious is obvious.Frank Rosserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309632468813896365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38965474326502026642018-04-03T08:58:09.558+10:002018-04-03T08:58:09.558+10:00The individual "carbon footprint" canard...The individual "carbon footprint" canard can be ignored as the red herring that it is. Everybody is guilty of carbon contributions, even sitting here typing on this keyboard has a measurable impact upon my own carbon footprint.<br /><br />Getting sucked into these really stupid debates over really stupid arguments is a waste of life. The "hypocrisy" is still full-retard on the climate denialists who will seek any argument, including stupid arguments to pretend that climate science is wrong. Don't sink to their level of idiocy.<br /><br />I stopped driving for 13 years - and it didn't make a whit of difference. It did not change anybody's attitude towards me, or my carbon contributions, or the science-based arguments about climate change. Worrall is seeking to lay false accountability upon everyone - but himself. He's just another moron trying to find some wiggle room for his anti-science, climate denial bullshit. Ignore him.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-24140068919321744702018-04-03T07:19:54.051+10:002018-04-03T07:19:54.051+10:00All this wuht nonsense reminds me of the headline ...All this wuht nonsense reminds me of the headline in the Roman Times, at the time of Jesus' walking on water at the Sea of Galilee<br /><br />EXCLUSIVE Son of God can't swim <br /><br />TadaaaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31574051066089058942018-04-03T05:52:59.877+10:002018-04-03T05:52:59.877+10:00The so-called 'Climategate' emails are wha...The so-called 'Climategate' emails are what, ten years old now? Their veracity aside, is that the best you can do Mr Worrall? You were claiming, I believe, that recent technology makes air travel to conferences unnecessary? Are you now claiming that this technology was available a decade ago? <br /><br />Best Regards<br /><br />KevinUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16187538630727331322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-81136639881994948022018-04-03T05:40:45.615+10:002018-04-03T05:40:45.615+10:00Hey Eric, that "source" you are using al...Hey Eric, that "source" you are using also tells us that we Brits carried out the nerve agent attack here on our own soil. Do you believe that?Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-27091116009787581392018-04-03T05:33:01.403+10:002018-04-03T05:33:01.403+10:00ROFL, Eric is still quoting stuff stolen by Putin&...ROFL, Eric is still quoting stuff stolen by Putin's hackers.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-36921233234531153722018-04-03T05:29:09.529+10:002018-04-03T05:29:09.529+10:00Knowledge acquisition in action
Climategate Email...Knowledge acquisition in action<br /><br />Climategate Email 3980.txt<br /><br /><b>Phil Jones:</b><br /><br /><i>As I've booked the flights on frequent flyer miles, I'm wondering if I can convince myself (my grant) that I can justify the hotel ... </i><br /><br /><b>Michael Mann:</b><br /><br /><i>looking forward to seeing you in Tahiti, we can enjoy some nice tropical drinks w/ umbrellas in them.where are you planning on staying by the way? I haven't decided yet. The cheap options sound way to spartan to me, but the nicer options are so expensive!</i>Eric Worrallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14053132017679865559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-22264749836935988842018-04-03T04:33:18.345+10:002018-04-03T04:33:18.345+10:00I know Kevin Anderson has made some pointed commen...I know Kevin Anderson has made some pointed comments about the need for him and his fellow climate scientists to set a better example than they have been. I was going to cite a video of his but I found this 2016 article and it seemed to be right on point regarding the writer, a climate scientist, making the effort to cease flying and embrace a more environmentally friendly way of life. I wonder what the likes of Mr Worrall makes of it given his previous comments - http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/life-after-oil/how-far-can-we-get-without-flying-20160211Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16187538630727331322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-1340757044309601392018-04-03T02:32:02.987+10:002018-04-03T02:32:02.987+10:00What's become clear to me over years of readin...What's become clear to me over years of reading climate change deniers (skeptics, contrarians, denialists, pick a label) is that few of them have scientific backgrounds, understand how scientific research is conducted, are familiar with universities, or have been to technical conferences of any kind. At this point, remote networking and conference tools do not scale up to the needs of large groups, and while they can be extremely useful to keep in regular contact with a small working group, they don't replace in-person interactions.<br /><br />As for the contrarians, yes, there are a minor number of engineers and scientists among the ranks, some with up to graduate level education and even a statistically trivial number of professors (almost all opining about matters well outside their own areas of expertise), but for the most part these are angry, isolated individuals shouting about a world that is entirely foreign to them.<br /><br />Like many conspiracy theorists, they seem in dire need of real-life friends and/or productive hobbies. Unfortunately the Internet has been no friend to them.Magmanoreply@blogger.com