tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post4823080069906468346..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: "Expert" David Legates tells US Senate Committee that CO2 is animal foodSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-91472701213708042552014-06-09T09:12:49.199+10:002014-06-09T09:12:49.199+10:00Increasing CO2 threatens human nutrition
http://ww...Increasing CO2 threatens human nutrition<br />http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v510/n7503/full/nature13179.html<br />Nature 510, 139–142 (05 June 2014) doi:10.1038/nature13179<br /><br />"Dietary deficiencies of zinc and iron are a substantial global public health problem. An estimated two billion people suffer these deficiencies1, causing a loss of 63 million life-years annually2, 3. Most of these people depend on C3 grains and legumes as their primary dietary source of zinc and iron. Here we report that C3 grains and legumes have lower concentrations of zinc and iron when grown under field conditions at the elevated atmospheric CO2 concentration predicted for the middle of this century. C3 crops other than legumes also have lower concentrations of protein, whereas C4 crops seem to be less affected. Differences between cultivars of a single crop suggest that breeding for decreased sensitivity to atmospheric CO2 concentration could partly address these new challenges to global health."citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74035130497644872222014-06-09T03:44:48.683+10:002014-06-09T03:44:48.683+10:00Ditto!
Thanks for sharing that.Ditto!<br /><br />Thanks for sharing that.citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89958421402405414372014-06-09T03:21:22.603+10:002014-06-09T03:21:22.603+10:00Come on John, don't be so coy ;- )
"Dav...Come on John, don't be so coy ;- )<br /><br />"David Legates<br />Background<br /><br />Legates is a Joint Associate Professor of Geography at the University of Delaware. [2] In 2005, Legates was designated as Delaware's State Climatologist. [3]<br /><br />Legates was later asked to step down as State Climatologist by the Dean of the University. Although no one at the university was willing to explain the reason for replacing Legates as the State Climatologist, Greenpeace speculates that the reason may have been Legates's close ties with Willie Soon. <br /><br />Legates and Soon have authored numerous papers together, including a controversial 2007 “polar bear study” that was partially funded by Koch Industries.<br /><br />He is a regular contributor to publications of the National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA), and is connected to numerous conservative think tanks that oppose climate change regulation or are skeptical of man-made global warming.citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-18007626636499177292014-06-09T03:18:49.413+10:002014-06-09T03:18:49.413+10:00Good one.
Wish that were brought up every time som...Good one.<br />Wish that were brought up every time some fool says <br />"Heck CO2 ain't no pollutant"<br /><br />Even better than the movie, here's the story, makes for a good read:<br />http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/space-flight/apollo-13-we-have-a-solution-part-3<br />"As Apollo 13 sped toward Earth, mission control was beginning to worry about a new problem. While the lunar module had enough spare oxygen to accommodate Swigert as well as the intended lunar module crew of Lovell and Haise, carbon dioxide was beginning to build up. … <br />"As reported in Lost Moon, Lovell's book about the Apollo 13 mission (cowritten by Jeffery Kluger; republished as Apollo 13), Ed Smylie, one of the engineers who developed and tested life support systems for NASA, had recognized that carbon dioxide was going to be a problem as soon as he heard the lunar module was being pressed into service after the explosion. …"citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-72417174597335655832014-06-05T15:56:51.302+10:002014-06-05T15:56:51.302+10:00WUWT is mushroom food.WUWT is mushroom food.idunnonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-10404842387817572942014-06-04T21:45:40.437+10:002014-06-04T21:45:40.437+10:00that response is simply beautiful :-)
it's ve...that response is simply beautiful :-)<br /><br />it's very short, so PNAS's "first page" sample covers the whole thing: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/05/09/1405487111.extract<br />lignenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31981527648575578522014-06-04T21:10:32.999+10:002014-06-04T21:10:32.999+10:00That was funny! Thanks for giving me a good laugh....That was funny! Thanks for giving me a good laugh. Or rather, I should thank Legates et al (and Eisenman) to provide me with some comic relief, and you for pointing us to the rebuttalMarconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38128238235923096452014-06-04T13:23:58.877+10:002014-06-04T13:23:58.877+10:00Legates is recently "famous" for a lette...Legates is recently "famous" for a letter to PNAS along with Eschenbach and Soon, questioning a paper on albedo decrease due to diminishing arctic ice.<br /><br />The response is illuminating, suggesting they failed to read the entire paper and failed to understand the parts they did read. <br /><br />A couple of gems:<br /><br />"In other words, the procedure that Legates et al. say would be “better” is actually the one we used.";<br /><br />'Based on their comment, it seems possible that Legates et al. (2) have misinterpreted our use of the term “planetary albedo” to mean “global-mean albedo.”'<br /><br />For those with access to PNAS, see doi: 10.1073/pnas.1405487111<br />Anthony Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02513872551156179165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-90585326342738061482014-06-04T06:33:55.870+10:002014-06-04T06:33:55.870+10:00Its a little known fact that when Lake Nyos spewed...Its a little known fact that when Lake Nyos spewed out a cloud of CO2, 1,700 people and 3,500 livestock died from overeating.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-7879880948506774632014-06-04T04:26:42.928+10:002014-06-04T04:26:42.928+10:00Oh my Sou. I wish you had not posted that submissi...Oh my Sou. I wish you had not posted that submission by David Legates. I made the mistake of skim reading it. What a whiny whinger! Jammy Dodgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-52457790212440492562014-06-04T04:15:57.421+10:002014-06-04T04:15:57.421+10:00"...the response of increasing atmospheric ca...<i>"...the response of increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide... Considering that CO2 is food for plants and animals, this is seen as a positive and any potential negative effects are minimal."</i><br /><br />This is quite funny until you look at the wider context of saying that any "potential effects are minimal". Ignoring that the statement is meaningless without qualification, it is truly embarrassing this is the level of discussion at Senate level.It reminds me when the UK parliamentary committee had Lindzen and Laframboise(?) to give evidence - excruciatingly toe-curling to listen to.<br /> <br /><br />Jammy Dodgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4103632034244734402014-06-04T03:44:53.023+10:002014-06-04T03:44:53.023+10:00As usual, see DeSmogBlog entryAs usual, see <a href="http://www.desmogblog.com/david-legates" rel="nofollow">DeSmogBlog entry </a>John Masheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-10581016959128648692014-06-04T02:40:14.186+10:002014-06-04T02:40:14.186+10:00Do you think Legates has seen this
http://m.youtu...Do you think Legates has seen this<br /><br />http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm5nUEG5BjoCatmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-72223401008572383172014-06-04T02:26:21.265+10:002014-06-04T02:26:21.265+10:00CO2 would be rather fattening. I have read that yo...CO2 would be rather fattening. I have read that you can live on just light...Jammy Dodgernoreply@blogger.com