tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post4594685858084290166..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Evangelical Deniers: The poorest and most vulnerable and the lowest of the low @wattsupwiththatSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-11258142616143977102014-09-29T17:00:15.775+10:002014-09-29T17:00:15.775+10:00Thanks, CC. I've made a slight edit to your co...Thanks, CC. I've made a slight edit to your comment.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-8620830018787118442014-09-29T16:58:11.920+10:002014-09-29T16:58:11.920+10:00Alrightie then, one more chore and I can go to bed...Alrightie then, one more chore and I can go to bed. Sharing today's efforts with you folks.<br />~ ~ ~ <br /><br />The Beisner Cornwall Alliance God, examined<br />9/28/2012<br /><br />"There's an organization [which appears to be] created expressly to spread lies and increase the public's confusion about our global warming situation. What is particularly contemptuous about this group, called the Cornwall Alliance, is that they hide their contrived debate points behind a show of God. Reminds me of cigarette commercials featuring beautiful babes and tough cowboys to sell their deadly product. Tragically such media campaigns are quite successful in wooing a basically apathetic public.<br /><br />Just as tragically trying to converse with such souls is like talking to a wall. Still it's important to take the time to point out their base misconceptions and lies even if only to let other's know that the truth is out there. … <br /><br />I'm no scholar, still I've been watching this PR game {and pondered creation and God} long enough to be able to offer this detailed review of Calvin Beisner's Cornwall Alliance talking points …"<br /><br />~ ~ ~<br /><br />A review of Cornwall Alliances "The Biblical Perspective of Environmental Stewardship: Subduing and Ruling the Earth to the Glory of God and the Benefit of Our Neighbors" 2013<br /><br />http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-beisner-cornwall-alliance-god.html<br /><br />~~~~~~~~~~~<br /><br />PS. Keep up the great work Sou.citizenschallengehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-81560342685232116922014-09-29T06:28:39.584+10:002014-09-29T06:28:39.584+10:00When the accusation that acceptance of AGW is a re...When the accusation that acceptance of AGW is a religious position is so common, only the most tactically obtuse want religion brought in on <i>their</i> side.Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-87243581362294350752014-09-29T05:40:07.720+10:002014-09-29T05:40:07.720+10:00And of course, the ever-thorough Sou already provi...And of course, the ever-thorough Sou already provided a link to JM's comment in the headpost and I missed it. Sorry ;-)BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6740470799559307002014-09-29T05:36:58.312+10:002014-09-29T05:36:58.312+10:00There's a very entertaining Guardian article o...There's a very entertaining <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2011/may/05/evangelical-christian-environmentalism-green-dragon" rel="nofollow">Guardian article on Cornwall Alliance</a> which may be of interest to students of barking mad Dominionist theology. <br /><br />Fans of the crazy may enjoy a few snippets from the Cornwall Alliance's publication <b>Resisting the Green Dragon:</b><br /><br /><i>The Litany of the Green Dragon provides some certainty for people without God, who drift steadily from their rational moorings, and for whom there is an increasing sense of separation anxiety...<br /><br />We humans are special creatures, in a class of our own, quite separate from, and superior to, trees and animals...<br /><br />The Green Dragon must die…[There] is no excuse to become befuddled by the noxious Green odors and doctrines emanating from the foul beast...<br /><br />This slimy jade road…is paved with all kinds of perverted and destructive behaviours, leads to death itself, and finally, to the pains of hell forever…No Hollywood celebrity bunnies draped over its foul form can deny its native evil...<br /><br />It is no coincidence the rise of environmentalism as a significant political entity tracks the rising political clout of modern feminism...<br /><br />Savage wolves have come to be among the church…No one can serve two masters...<br /><br />The first few chapters in the Book of Genesis are an infinite mine to plumb for riches. All the world has no wisdom that is greater...<br /><br />So-called "natural" or wilderness areas are not hospitable to man, and God does not consider this a good or natural state...<br /><br />The fruits of the Green Dragon are not good, but evil…Humans are urged to surrender as many liberites as judged fit to save the world, which is pretty much all liberty that makes life worth living...<br /><br />Christians must resist Green overtures to recast true religion, nor allow themselves to be prey for teachers of pagan heresies...</i><br /><br />* * *<br /><br />John Mashey provided <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2013/10/the-evangelical-science-denier-and.html?showComment=1382330044874#c1456716409691392145" rel="nofollow">some interesting information about the CA's funding</a> in comments last time Sou wrote about this very peculiar organisation.<br />BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-64286587718639148332014-09-28T12:27:13.517+10:002014-09-28T12:27:13.517+10:00Eric Worrall, or Wozza to his imaginary friend, ma...Eric Worrall, or Wozza to his imaginary friend, may be one of the Heinz-57-varieties of the more extreme believers among commenters at WUWT but, in his defence, he's just mixed up the Cornwall, Cornball and Oddball Alliances, and perhaps even the sole trader Timball Unalliance<br />And that's easy to do, for Eric, because their names all have the same assonant terminal sounds. Which observation is also about as charitable as the Cornwall Alliance gets.<br />GMGeorge Montgomeryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07042191140401441348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-42473358437003946702014-09-28T12:01:14.916+10:002014-09-28T12:01:14.916+10:00Sou, thanks for printing this and reminding me the...Sou, thanks for printing this and reminding me there are projects to finish.<br />FYI I've reposted half of this at <br />http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2014/09/peek-at-cornwall-alliance.html<br />~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ <br /><br />FrankD, you say Charles Colson, that's interesting, didn't realize that, have a source for more information about their origins?<br />citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-35323247590714936542014-09-28T06:16:47.797+10:002014-09-28T06:16:47.797+10:00There a lot of atheists at WUWT or at least a lot ...There a lot of atheists at WUWT or at least a lot of people that don't mix their pseudo-science with religion. The religious types bump heads with them occasionally and usually lose. <br /><br />Which reminds me. I haven't seen Janice Moore lately.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19463157575560190682014-09-28T06:08:52.586+10:002014-09-28T06:08:52.586+10:00A link with the evidence that Cal Beisner really s...<a href="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/beisner-hurricane-sandy-was-sent-god-matter-grace" rel="nofollow">A link with the evidence that Cal Beisner really said this.</a><br /><br />Sou, are your comments representative? Is the WUWT audience a bunch of anti-Christians? Interesting. Thus US Republican party is truly interesting. Where the creationists and the social Darwinists meet and work on their higher political goal.Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-51546268883550890172014-09-27T21:47:23.518+10:002014-09-27T21:47:23.518+10:00Why would it be well known in the UK? It's an ...Why would it be well known in the UK? It's an American foundation headquartered in the Burke, Virginia. It's as British as Mom's Apple Pie. Nor, as far as I can tell, does it perform any actual charity work. Eric shows his usual dedication to the facts.<br /><br />CA's spokesman Cal Beisner claimed that Sandy was "sent by God as a matter of grace" and the Joplin tornado was "a little taste of God's judgement". He is an End Timer, whose wibblings suggest he since the apocalypse will be presaged by disasters, the more disasters the sooner the rapture.<br /><br />I might add that one of CAs founders is Charles Colson - former Nixon hatchet man, Watergate conspirator and advocate of a wide range of criminal behaviour. Of course, that was before he got that old time religion....but still, you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas...<br /><br />A collection of right-wing dominionist loons who even Willard Anthony's bag of mixed nuts should be ashamed of being associated with.FrankDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-22326173396722136122014-09-27T17:43:11.746+10:002014-09-27T17:43:11.746+10:00Should say shiny website. Who invented autocorrec...Should say shiny website. Who invented autocorrect? Come the revolution.Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6357821776629880922014-09-27T17:38:58.933+10:002014-09-27T17:38:58.933+10:00That's how I found out about them. I suspect t...That's how I found out about them. I suspect there are many such phoney theological cults around with a handful of members who can now put together a Sony website and so look important. In terms of influence, unless David Cameron signs up, I think it is negligible.Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-68794674129685200872014-09-27T17:15:04.013+10:002014-09-27T17:15:04.013+10:00You are right Catmando. Eric Worrall saying it is ...You are right Catmando. Eric Worrall saying it is a well known charity in the UK is completely wrong. I do not think anybody I know has heard of it. I only know of it because I lurk around climate blogs. I have never heard it mentioned or advertised outside of this. Jammy Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360437479098314946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-71774786777321084052014-09-27T17:08:09.336+10:002014-09-27T17:08:09.336+10:00The Cornwall Alliance was not in the top 1000 for ...The Cornwall Alliance was not in the top 1000 for charities donations in 2012<br /><br />http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/apr/24/top-1000-charities-donations-britain<br /><br />I realise that donations are an imperfect measure of fame but some other religious organisations did make it. Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53151599449051462332014-09-27T16:55:32.777+10:002014-09-27T16:55:32.777+10:00Eric Worrall is wrong. The Cornwall Alliance is no...Eric Worrall is wrong. The Cornwall Alliance is not well known in the UK. I expect only a few hundred to a few thousand know about it. In the UK we tend to pay attention to charities that support science.Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-76062011832134101622014-09-27T14:10:53.630+10:002014-09-27T14:10:53.630+10:00Oh, thanks, KR. I'll fix it. So many documents...Oh, thanks, KR. I'll fix it. So many documents! So much hypocrisy hiding behind a pseudo-religious cult.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-45809642820246952822014-09-27T13:52:16.876+10:002014-09-27T13:52:16.876+10:00I believe some 1500 have signed their "Evange...I believe some 1500 have signed their "Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming", stating that <i>"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human contribution to greenhouse gases is causing dangerous global warming."</i> <br /><br />The "Protect the Poor" declaration with 150 signatures, although it repeats much of the same nonsense, is a separate document. KRnoreply@blogger.com