tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post3525266916207226460..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Fake sceptics have nothing to latch onto given the greater certainty from IPCCSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89284749716385199372013-09-29T12:28:06.663+10:002013-09-29T12:28:06.663+10:00At the moment they can't decide between "...At the moment they can't decide between "all the models are wrong", which isn't getting any traction; and "they didn't specify a best estimate climate sensitivity". No denier that I've read has picked up on the transient climate response estimate - or compared it to the climate sensitivity estimate. I doubt most of the hanger on deniers know the difference. I'll be interested to read the main report this week to see if the report states how paleo data is factored in to these estimates. Although with the speed of change we're in new territory.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-83084980166737155012013-09-29T00:15:25.750+10:002013-09-29T00:15:25.750+10:00What we're seeing from the denial machine at t...What we're seeing from the denial machine at the moment is the desperate search for a meme. <br /><br />They're hoping to find a 'Himalayan glacier' type errro that they can latch onto. Nothing yet, hence all the rather unfocussed, vague whining. <br /><br />Anonymous Etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-42605687981022550352013-09-28T19:53:50.777+10:002013-09-28T19:53:50.777+10:00See below a Reuters article about the first major ...See below a Reuters article about the first major freight vessel to go through the NW passage.<br />In the article (and without a trace of irony) the shipping firm points out that the shorter route reduces carbon emissions. The same can't be said for the massive cargo of coal it was carrying (with 15000 tons extra thanks to the shorter route!).<br /><br />http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/27/us-shipping-coal-arctic-idUSBRE98Q0K720130927<br /><br />Big freighter traverses Northwest Passage for 1st time<br />www.reuters.com<br />LONDON (Reuters) - A large freighter completed a voyage through the hazardous Arctic Northwest Passage for the first time this week, showing the potential for cutting shipment times and costs as global warming opens new routes...SCMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09472699510774308225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53309384933062466512013-09-28T19:28:02.178+10:002013-09-28T19:28:02.178+10:00From The Independent:
"Dr Pachauri warned th...From <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/ipcc-report-the-financial-markets-are-the-only-hope-in-the-race-to-stop-global-warming-8843573.html" rel="nofollow">The Independent</a>:<br /><br />"<i>Dr Pachauri warned that unless a price could be put on carbon emissions that was high enough to force power companies and manufacturers to reduce their fossil-fuel use, there seemed to be little chance of avoiding hugely damaging temperature increases.</i>"<br /><br />Compare this to the Australian Coalition government's claim that a carbon price is ineffective (even after significant reductions were seen in the first year after its introduction). I'm listening to Greg Hunt at just this moment saying that the government will introduce a carbon purchasing fund - so basically tax-payers are expected to <i>post-hoc</i> pay for polluters' emissions rather than making the very same polluters pay for their own damage. This is crazy talk from a party that is supposed to be all about the market delivering signals to polluters and all about stopping socialist policies that involve tax-payers forking out welfare for those who do not require it.<br /><br />The basic problem is that the Coalition's ideological opposition to the facts that industry is screwing the planet, and that burning Australia's large deposits of coal needs to be stopped, subsumes any rational market mechanism with which they might otherwise agree. It's about a clear a case of hypocritical scientific and economic denialism as one could ever hope to see.<br /><br />When AR6 is released it will be in a climate of 2020 hindsight, with much hyperbole and finger pointing at scientists no doubt, but I suspect that the media will still be in "who, us?" mode and that conservative politicians the world over will still be blaming everyone else for the planet's ills.<br /><br />If there's no serious international summit about global warming arising from AR5 within the next six months we're FUBARed. It's that simple: a passive response from here to the next norther summer will be sufficient to set the stage for the next half a decade, and by then the window for effective mitigation without calamatous damage to the global economy will be well and truly closed. The only things that could intervene would be a serious global influenza pandemic or a Third World War.<br /><br />Vale enlightened human civilsation.<br /><br /><br />Bernard J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com