tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post3507843468694457726..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Logical fallacies and conspiracy theories from Rick Wallace at WUWTSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-34270694227815910642016-03-12T08:38:02.742+11:002016-03-12T08:38:02.742+11:00"In a vast an nefarious global conspiracy, a ..."In a vast an nefarious global conspiracy, a well-funded group of dishonest so-called 'scientists' has been claiming there was a 'pause' in global warming. It turns out, the least-squares linear regression trend has shown, since the beginning of the satellite record, the Earth has been steadily warming due to the emissions of human-produced greenhouse gasses.<br /><br />"The graph referenced below was not cherry-picked, but was scientifically calculated to show the longest trendline that displays an upward slope in the RSS lower troposphere data.<br /><br />"As you can see, it goes all the way back to the beginning of the satellite record."<br /><br />- Fnord Kristofer Mockman of LockeslyD.C.Pettersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05078422582348328238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-71947188593582583532016-03-12T08:31:22.154+11:002016-03-12T08:31:22.154+11:00Monckton's next article:
"No global warm...Monckton's next article:<br /><br />"No global warming pause since 1975!"<br /><br />http://woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1979/plot/rss/from:1979/trendD.C.Pettersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05078422582348328238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-42979786110016059122016-03-12T05:32:01.143+11:002016-03-12T05:32:01.143+11:00There's a little problem, well described in Ja...There's a little problem, well described in Jane Mayer's Dark Money, which is that in this fight the truth does not matter. As long as they have power and can suppress the truth, that's all good for them. Odd, since they must have children, but there you are.<br /><br />Latest campaign is taking over universities and defunding science. Rather successful so far.<br /><br />It won't matter when things are past saving, which they almost already are. This is quite stunning, if rather long, start at minute 8 and skip if you already know; his calm logical fact-based presentation is devastating.<br />"Justin Gillis: Covering Climate Change - November 14, 2013"<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NV-pbcIhXgSusan Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16935228911713362040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38391908041929615642016-03-11T22:33:22.900+11:002016-03-11T22:33:22.900+11:00"Then they discard anything inconvenient that..."Then they discard anything inconvenient that remains."<br /><br />I am waiting, possibly in vain, for the article by Lord Monckton that says the pause is over. So far, nothing. Not even one that says Carl Mears is evil for adjusting his data set.Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-14759086284287423722016-03-11T11:31:04.707+11:002016-03-11T11:31:04.707+11:00"They are so self consuming they don't re..."They are so self consuming they don't realise what idiots they are..."<br /><br />All strategy and no content.<br /><br />They don't read much and they understand even less. Then they discard anything inconvenient that remains.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09537772941984056434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-11735916700955377642016-03-11T11:20:57.984+11:002016-03-11T11:20:57.984+11:00We're talking about post-emotionally stable sc...We're talking about post-emotionally stable science here!<br /><br />As projected by Mr.Wallace, the passionate champion of respect-my-ignorance.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09537772941984056434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-87490998771138229052016-03-11T11:02:48.656+11:002016-03-11T11:02:48.656+11:00The deniers are feeling the pinch, one recent comm...The deniers are feeling the pinch, one recent comment on WUWT caught my eye <br /><br />It talked about how they were losing the argument (in the blogosphere) and that they needed to somehow get a rapid response force (the best of the best - lol) together to counter, well to counter the data, the facts and simple ration arguments <br /><br />They are so self consuming they don't realise what idiots they are - and that they are being laughed at (well laughed at by people who take the trouble to engage them, most sane people, AKA my wife would not bother )Tadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53455567642728419902016-03-11T10:41:26.137+11:002016-03-11T10:41:26.137+11:00Sou, I'm glad you got those papers. They kill ...Sou, I'm glad you got those papers. They kill another false denier talking point.<br />D.C.Pettersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05078422582348328238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-32663339028385834282016-03-11T09:44:22.508+11:002016-03-11T09:44:22.508+11:00Thanks, DC. I spent too much time on that thread, ...Thanks, DC. I spent too much time on that thread, but the effort was worth it. Not for what was posted there, but because it prompted me to get some papers on the increase in water vapour/total precipitable water, which was a gap in my collection :) (H/t and thanks to those who helped me get one of the papers I was looking for.)Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-32526999364437950022016-03-11T08:58:50.679+11:002016-03-11T08:58:50.679+11:00Sou,
This is totally and inexcusably off-topic, b...Sou,<br /><br />This is totally and inexcusably off-topic, but something I wanted to say anyway... feel free to delete if you want ...<br /><br />I ventured into Jim Steele's LinkedIn post and I was amazed at his insulting, sneering, and condescending attitude. I bowed out of the conversation to prevent myself from responding in kind, having done my best to remain polite and on-point. It strikes me that deniers definitely feel the need to bully into silence anyone who points out the immense holes in their "logic", particularly the quote-mining and cherry-picking in which they must engage.<br /><br />It was particularly amusing that he said he asked the LinkedIn moderators to delete my posts (I believe he did the same for you), since he claimed I had been mean to him. That no posts were deleted serves to highlight his impotence at the least, and perhaps hypocrisy as well.<br /><br />I am grateful and flattered that you "liked" a number of my comments. I would definitely have done the same for yours, but I avoided the thread after deciding that I can be insulted in other places, and needn't have someone as blind as Steele do it. Your comments were amazingly informative and calm. Well done.<br /><br />I'm very glad I found HotWhopper, and have the delightful experience of reading your work. Thank you for your dedication, and your sense of humor.D.C.Pettersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05078422582348328238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-78705039258354197572016-03-11T06:49:34.283+11:002016-03-11T06:49:34.283+11:00Cue indignation from LubosCue indignation from LubosTHE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-88057427547435689842016-03-11T06:28:59.138+11:002016-03-11T06:28:59.138+11:00But therein lies the problem. They don't even ...But therein lies the problem. They don't even realise they're in denial. They think climate scientists either know nuffin', or are all in on some weird conspiracy.<br /><br />It's because they are mostly right-wing authoritarian followers, and they uncritically lap up whatever their RWA leaders (like Trump) tell them to lap up. America appears to be done, stick a fork in it :-/metzomagichttp://metzomagic.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-61310474047427624132016-03-11T06:08:44.138+11:002016-03-11T06:08:44.138+11:00It's all well and good to mock people like Ric...It's all well and good to mock people like Rick when they talk about intimidation. But... hmm. I forgot where I was going with this.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-82649641650711421342016-03-11T03:16:17.611+11:002016-03-11T03:16:17.611+11:00Is it conspiracy if deniers agree with each other ...Is it conspiracy if deniers agree with each other about their denial?D.C.Pettersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05078422582348328238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-11949416724020495402016-03-11T02:00:24.997+11:002016-03-11T02:00:24.997+11:00"Thus, in real science any state of agreement..."Thus, in real science any state of agreement is labile at best ... "<br /><br />Real science?<br /><br />Labile?<br /><br />"of or characterized by emotions that are easily aroused or freely expressed, and that tend to alter quickly and spontaneously; emotionally unstable"<br /><br />Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey, err Judith Curry, err Rick Wallace<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Handey<br />"Jack Handey (born February 25, 1949) is an American humorist."<br /><br /><br />The crows seemed to be calling his name, thought Caw.Everett F Sargenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00201577558036010680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89759630611146623612016-03-11T01:41:56.834+11:002016-03-11T01:41:56.834+11:00Re. "intimidation" I wonder if he'd ...Re. "intimidation" I wonder if he'd be willing to compare the contents of his inbox with, oh, for example, Dr. Hayhoes's?jgnfldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-8844649883132593772016-03-11T00:44:45.280+11:002016-03-11T00:44:45.280+11:00"I'd call that "self-sealing reasoni...<i>"I'd call that "self-sealing reasoning". He seems to be arguing that scientists agreeing that adding greenhouse gases to the air is causing global warming, is proof that scientists are not motivated by science. The implication being that the science must be wrong."</i><br /><br />Taken to its logical extreme it means that scientists would never be allowed to agree about anything - because, um, conspiracy?<br />Jammy Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360437479098314946noreply@blogger.com