tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post3216030523110781242..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: WUWT is the biggest blog in the anti-science echo chamber and proud of itSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39958114331059634842013-09-21T14:31:31.463+10:002013-09-21T14:31:31.463+10:00Were you hanging your hat on Sharman producing som...Were you hanging your hat on Sharman producing something useful for your views, Murph? Grasping at a sociology paper? You guys usually dogmatically hold sociology in even higher contempt than scary science, don't you? Making an exception now?<br /><br />Post some examples of 'disagreeable' science papers. Caveat: they need to be peer-reviewed, by credentialed workers, and published in a high-impact journal. IOW, no mickey-mouse stuff. There you go after you've finished with Oz, you can watch Disney, that's your speed.<br /><br />Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09537772941984056434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-52366990336433574552013-09-12T07:41:50.758+10:002013-09-12T07:41:50.758+10:00The study gives these total numbers: In total, 171...The study gives these total numbers: <i>In total, 171 blogs were identified, 155 of which are allocated to category 1 (openly sceptical) with the remaining 15 identified as category 2 (self-proclaimed “open-minded”).</i>Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-8589801125138796782013-09-12T07:39:57.744+10:002013-09-12T07:39:57.744+10:00From the study: “Science” included all scientifica...From the study: <i>“Science” included all scientifically-related points, including any argument that referenced scientific data or methods, scientific theories or the role and activities of scientific institutions. <b>No distinction was made between what has been suggested as being ‘scientifically legitimate’ (Freudenburg and Muselli 2010: 483) arguments as opposed to ‘non-science and pseudoscience’ (Cormick 2011).</b> “Policy” included all discussions that emphasised the politics of, or policy decisions related to, climate change, such as the political appropriateness of mitigation or adaptation policies.</i> (my emphasis)<br /><br />Thus I guess we should not freak out too much that WUWT is called a science blog. Anyway social scientists seem to have difficulty distinguishing science from non-science.Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-13217831883525867842013-09-10T18:00:50.068+10:002013-09-10T18:00:50.068+10:00Yes, I think she should have put some kind of disc...Yes, I think she should have put some kind of disclaimer. Lars Karlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158469980966810882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31478660524702181072013-09-10T17:54:23.874+10:002013-09-10T17:54:23.874+10:00That's pretty much how I read it too, Lars.
E...That's pretty much how I read it too, Lars.<br /><br />Even so, attributing "science" to WUWT and other denier blogs is hardly neutral. She could have at least used quotation marks.<br /><br />Nor is overlooking the values and ideological stances that abound on those sites.<br /><br />I do think it's quaint that Judith Curry is lumped in with the unskilled Auditor:)Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-34121083584223842242013-09-10T17:50:06.289+10:002013-09-10T17:50:06.289+10:00Sharman is examining the blog network, and not the...Sharman is examining the blog network, and not the veracity of their arguments. I think that in such a study, one is supposed to be neutral relative to the opinions and arguments. It is a matter of objectives and methodology.Lars Karlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158469980966810882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-51467008637830379722013-09-10T17:48:29.320+10:002013-09-10T17:48:29.320+10:00BBD - Let alone "less preoccupied with other ...BBD - Let alone "less preoccupied with other types of scepticism ...such as ideologically or values-motivated scepticism".<br /><br />She can't have spent much time at WUWT or other anti-science blogs. Their so-called "science" is a very thin facade.<br /><br />It's a strange paper in some ways.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-46471184813541401092013-09-10T17:24:45.332+10:002013-09-10T17:24:45.332+10:00One gets the impression that Sharman doesn't r...One gets the impression that Sharman doesn't really know very much about Earth System science:<br /><br /><i>These blogs predominantly focus on the scientific element of the climate debate, providing either a direct scientifically-based challenge to mainstream climate science, or a critique of the conduct of the climate science system, and appear to be less preoccupied with other types of scepticism that are prevalent in the wider public debate such as ideologically or values-motivated scepticism. </i><br /><br />I don't believe that anyone with moderate or better topic knowledge could have written the above with a straight face. <br /><br /><i>a direct scientifically-based challenge to mainstream climate science</i><br /><br />Really? <br /><br />When? Where?BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59485091228531825992013-09-10T16:17:58.949+10:002013-09-10T16:17:58.949+10:00Seems there are only two category 2 blogs: Clamte ...Seems there are only two category 2 blogs: Clamte etc and CLimate Audit. The rest are all category 1.<br /><br />Of course, the centrality of WUWT in this network only proves what a pile of dung the whole "climate sceptics" movement is.Lars Karlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158469980966810882noreply@blogger.com