tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post2225086045712166757..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: "Screams" of an ice age cometh at WUWT, because it snowed in autumnSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31780939260530907662014-11-08T11:15:46.574+11:002014-11-08T11:15:46.574+11:00Sorry, JD. I'll tighten that up:
In its way, ...Sorry, JD. I'll tighten that up:<br /><br />In its way, this is fascinating as it reveals just how vanishingly rare are genuine sceptics <i>on the contrarian side</i> of the climate "debate". BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-60201459167338419462014-11-08T06:38:30.811+11:002014-11-08T06:38:30.811+11:00"...it reveals just how vanishingly rare are ...<i>"...it reveals just how vanishingly rare are genuine sceptics..."</i><br /><br />We are vanishing? :(Jammy Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360437479098314946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-46570835426065759502014-11-08T02:43:56.687+11:002014-11-08T02:43:56.687+11:00It works insofar as those sitting on the fence wil...It works insofar as those sitting on the fence will realise that the deniers have no evidence or real answers. I don't think it will turn many true deniers but those who are properly sceptical might be swayed.Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-71805143711299375042014-11-07T22:32:32.513+11:002014-11-07T22:32:32.513+11:00It just doesn't work. As Sou describes, and as...It just doesn't work. As Sou describes, and as RR and countless others have confirmed, asking questions simply produces serial evasions. As soon as you get <i>anywhere near</i> a point the "sceptic" doesn't want to address, they flatly refuse to engage. And around and around you dance, until your feet get tired and patience is exhausted.<br /><br />In its way, this is fascinating as it reveals just how vanishingly rare are genuine sceptics in the climate "debate". BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-25111050396368991342014-11-07T17:20:52.048+11:002014-11-07T17:20:52.048+11:00Sometimes it helps to tell the tiger you are ridin...Sometimes it helps to tell the tiger you are riding 'do not slow down so you can eat me!' BertBert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-25415870022927357952014-11-07T15:22:58.083+11:002014-11-07T15:22:58.083+11:00That's a great lesson and reminder, Bert. I re...That's a great lesson and reminder, Bert. I recall trying <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/04/living-dangerously-jim-steele-denies.html?showComment=1397626258933#c4178349328931573326" rel="nofollow">something like that with Jim Steele</a> a while ago but he wouldn't play. I put the same point to him over and over and he kept trying to dodge it. I ended up confining him to the HotWhoppery until he responded - but he never did. <br /><br />Tom Harris was another one <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/04/the-pseudo-science-coalition-bible.html" rel="nofollow">who got all tied up in knots</a>. <br /><br />Where I went wrong was coming across as a know-it-all with all the answers, which is a bad habit of mine. Next time (if I remember) I'll just ask the questions. If I don't remember, please remind me ;D<br /><br />To <a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/muhammadal145924.html" rel="nofollow">quote</a> a great not so humble man: "It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am" :)Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-16356408601024698312014-11-07T15:20:30.769+11:002014-11-07T15:20:30.769+11:00I stupidly forgot to say that Sou already does thi...I stupidly forgot to say that Sou already does this with surgical precision. BertBert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-35055354068574017302014-11-07T13:58:19.629+11:002014-11-07T13:58:19.629+11:00potholer54 has a video how to deal with people lik...potholer54 has a video how to deal with people like RR. here<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YezbREhH_Eg&list=UUljE1ODdSF7LS9xx9eWq0GQ<br /><br />It is far more effective than any emotive response. BertBert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39466855423260539942014-11-06T09:32:25.079+11:002014-11-06T09:32:25.079+11:00@Rum Runner
There is nothing strange about saying...@Rum Runner<br /><br />There is nothing strange about saying since records began. It is just to differentiate from earlier estimates. A phrase that has been around as long as I can remember.<br /><br />Why on earth would you postulate that an ordinary phrase is linked to your alleged loss of a web page? Sounds conspiratorial to me.<br /> Jammy Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360437479098314946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-5594384310099633042014-11-06T08:38:29.698+11:002014-11-06T08:38:29.698+11:00Rum Runner. I expect your post will disappear soon...Rum Runner. I expect your post will disappear soon ...<br /><br />Here in the UK it has just been reported as the wettest and warmest year since records began. So how does that work?<br /><br />Have NOAA really made it difficult to find that data? Or was it not quite where you expected? Or in a slightly different format? I do not think there is a conspiracy there.<br /> <br /><br /> Jammy Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360437479098314946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-90137353635365319572014-11-06T08:10:01.889+11:002014-11-06T08:10:01.889+11:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Rum Runnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198441561400270287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-13904751580435772182014-11-04T22:32:09.674+11:002014-11-04T22:32:09.674+11:00Country record Holland for the month of November w...Country record Holland for the month of November went on the 1st.<br />Year 2014 in this country is now set to obliterate the hottest years till now (scored way back in 2006 and 2007) by a margin of near half a degree.<br />The entire year's climatology belonging to some 700 km lower latitude like Bordeaux, including total lack of winter (first winter ever without any sub-zero day averages). <br />What's more, the weather here got just as boring as any subtropical holiday paradise.cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-41197065263368064152014-11-04T18:21:31.835+11:002014-11-04T18:21:31.835+11:00Yeah, yeah but that's the old kind of ice age,...Yeah, yeah but that's the old kind of ice age, the one with ice that's kilometres thick. This is a new kind of ice age with ice a few millimetres thick that lasts until tuesday. You have to think outside the box.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-3269347520726820392014-11-04T15:56:57.098+11:002014-11-04T15:56:57.098+11:00So I guess it would be impolite to point out that ...So I guess it would be impolite to point out that Tassie had bushfires - in the south(!) - a month ago, businesses and houses suffered from fires in the Blue Mountains last week and South Australia lost a CFS volunteer in the same week. It was 'only' a 4000 acre/ 1600 hectare fire mostly on farmland, but still. <br /><br />These three states are looking to reset their fire danger periods to start a month earlier and finish a month later from now on. <br /><br />I know it's rude, so I won't mention any of those things. adeladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02019930864931919369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-55238811105791632062014-11-04T09:39:38.648+11:002014-11-04T09:39:38.648+11:00You are right of course. We could add that the pro...You are right of course. We could add that the process begins with snow at <i>high north latitude</i> (65N is often quoted). BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80587778957623692022014-11-04T07:40:44.835+11:002014-11-04T07:40:44.835+11:00In October 2011 my wife and I were in NYC. Trees w...In October 2011 my wife and I were in NYC. Trees were only just turning and so the leaf drop was late. It was delightful time to be there. Then early snows hit the NE corridor and trees fell over from NJ to NH. Connecticut's power was shut down for about a week. It cost billions. <br /><br />Delayed leaf drops combined with a wobbly Jet Stream or a dipping Polar Vortex is a very big deal.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-29854629761140591092014-11-04T04:33:13.959+11:002014-11-04T04:33:13.959+11:00Correct me if I'm wrong, but ice ages occur no...Correct me if I'm wrong, but ice ages occur not when there's a lot of snow, or when it snows early, but rather when summer doesn't get warm enough to melt the snow. Then you start to have year-on-year build up of snow that compacts into ice. <br /><br />cabcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-11685580166837580092014-11-04T03:26:53.400+11:002014-11-04T03:26:53.400+11:00OK, that was funnyOK, that was funnyJoenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-54722898344070007892014-11-04T03:13:36.780+11:002014-11-04T03:13:36.780+11:00Doh.Doh.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-705131538497760392014-11-04T02:20:33.010+11:002014-11-04T02:20:33.010+11:00Hot Moth<br /><a rel="nofollow" href="http://images.wookmark.com/5754_moth_by_kikariz.jpg">Hot Moth</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-23951902932741932882014-11-04T01:55:11.683+11:002014-11-04T01:55:11.683+11:00I find myself wondering how often an Ice Age is im...I find myself wondering how often an Ice Age is immediately preceeded by so many 'hottest moths'.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-79403390952535692852014-11-04T01:35:46.741+11:002014-11-04T01:35:46.741+11:00This happens all the time. It snows somewhere and...This happens all the time. It snows somewhere and the globe is "cooling". A local TV weather personality has been flogging the South Carolina snow as though it's some major outbreak. And we're in Pennsylvania, so SC is well outside the viewing area! Funny, though, he (and the others) have ignored these data from NCDC:<br /><br />Global daily record high vs. low ratios:<br /><br />Last 365 days - 1.11:1<br />Last 30 days - 3.22:1<br />Last 7 days - 9.86:1<br /><br />Yes, the latter are relatively small time periods, but I think the planet may be about to remind us that it's 1) not happy and 2) completely in charge.JMSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38849175609657294472014-11-04T01:10:11.937+11:002014-11-04T01:10:11.937+11:00These days some of our deciduous trees still have ...These days some of our deciduous trees still have leaves half way into the first month of winter. Some of the shrubs in my garden have had a second flowering in autumn this past couple of years. I think it's known as climate weirding.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74636768319197749122014-11-04T01:08:04.400+11:002014-11-04T01:08:04.400+11:00Let's see if I can summarize the deeply consis...Let's see if I can summarize the deeply consistent scientific approach taken by our 'skeptical' friends...<br /><br /><b>Record heat and drought in California:</b> It's just weather. California's always had droughts. And it's just one state.<br /><br /><b>Record heat in Australia:</b> It's just weather. Australia's always been hot. And it's the smallest continent.<br /><br /><b>Powerful snowstorm hits the eastern U.S. on November 1st:</b> SO MUCH FOR GLOBAL WARMING HAHAHAHAHAMagmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-29055598817000622512014-11-04T01:05:01.382+11:002014-11-04T01:05:01.382+11:00"bloke down the pub" is actually worried..."bloke down the pub" is actually worried about something that matters. There's a few leaves left here in Montreal; 500 miles South of us there must be many.numerobisnoreply@blogger.com