tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post2087015448406669960..comments2024-02-12T15:25:44.028+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: This week governments try for a sane response while some in the climate world went a little bit madSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-82752750237610604142015-12-13T22:09:58.058+11:002015-12-13T22:09:58.058+11:00Just catching up with all the frothing on the Dail...Just catching up with all the frothing on the Daily Torygraph (UK version) re the Paris conference, it is a sight to behold. Booker is on err fine form, as he's moved on it seems from denial of physical reality to the "nothing can be done" mode many here predicted would be the next step for deniers.<br /><br />Oh his BLT fan boyz, are madder than a box of frogs coated in itching powder today, so it can't be all bad.<br /><br />:)<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/paris-climate-change-conference/12047626/At-the-Paris-climate-summit-panic-over-global-warming-finally-collided-with-reality.html Malcolmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59830054901800365792015-12-12T21:29:05.912+11:002015-12-12T21:29:05.912+11:00Live streaming now from #COP21 http://unfccc6.meta...Live streaming now from <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23COP21" rel="nofollow">#COP21</a> <a href="http://unfccc6.meta-fusion.com/cop21/channels/plenary-1" rel="nofollow">http://unfccc6.meta-fusion.com/cop21/channels/plenary-1</a>Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53721176493841502802015-12-12T20:39:48.822+11:002015-12-12T20:39:48.822+11:00Sou says She should just use the denier slogan &q...Sou says <i>She should just use the denier slogan "climate science is a hoax" - and it wouldn't be a stretch for her to do that.</i><br /><br />You're right Sou it's not a stretch it's a trajectory.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-20508575144455594312015-12-12T19:08:27.533+11:002015-12-12T19:08:27.533+11:00On the one hand COP21 with a crowd of national lea...On the one hand COP21 with a crowd of national leaders in attendance, on the other Cruz's lonely act (no other Republicans attended, from what I've read; apparently they hate Cruz more than they hate AGW). I think that says it for relevance. Denialism has long lost any power to persuade. All it can do now is provide comfort and confirmation for the already convinced.Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-33037624404997015192015-12-12T18:36:23.767+11:002015-12-12T18:36:23.767+11:00Yeah, but it gives Cruz a level of deniability: &q...Yeah, but it gives Cruz a level of deniability: "I wuz misled" rather than "I'm a venal little shit following fossil fuel industry orders".<br /><br />Maybe those bloggers should take note that they are being lined up to take the blame once the denial ends and the recriminations start.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-845273900927502982015-12-12T18:30:37.440+11:002015-12-12T18:30:37.440+11:00Steve Goddard's is the blog for people that ar...Steve Goddard's is the blog for people that are too dumb for WUWT (like Goddard himself).<br /><br />Lars Karlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158469980966810882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19200379623574256872015-12-12T18:12:54.679+11:002015-12-12T18:12:54.679+11:00Steve Goddard?! WUWT?!
You'd think Curry woul...Steve Goddard?! WUWT?!<br /><br />You'd think Curry would have left that out, as it makes the staffer look like a thorough idiot...Marconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-1206561861138763872015-12-12T17:04:57.392+11:002015-12-12T17:04:57.392+11:00Yeah the polls for Australia are a bit worrying (h...Yeah the polls for Australia are a bit worrying (have been for a while) but the output from COP21 should make the average mug sit up and take notice. Combine that with a few more good bushfire seasons and I'd be hoping for a fairly rapid turnaround.<br /><br />The electorate in 2016 will probably still make the mistake of thinking the Ellen Pee's "climate change policy" actually is what it says on the tin, and I have my doubts about Truffles' ability to get anything resembling a real policy past the nutters in the Coalition, but there is some hope for the election after that.Contrail Chooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-55318787002101356032015-12-12T16:56:08.642+11:002015-12-12T16:56:08.642+11:00She basically is saying it's a hoax already.She basically is saying it's a hoax already.Contrail Chooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-68784919899029723152015-12-12T16:34:04.625+11:002015-12-12T16:34:04.625+11:00Wow, PG! I hadn't caught up with that. Yes, if...Wow, PG! I hadn't caught up with that. Yes, if Judith wants to drop down to the level of Cruz denial, she won't have to drop far. She should just use the denier slogan "climate science is a hoax" - and it wouldn't be a stretch for her to do that.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-7347093916397963082015-12-12T16:30:41.228+11:002015-12-12T16:30:41.228+11:00Good point. Deniers are losing their relevance I t...Good point. Deniers are losing their relevance I think. They are falling further and further behind. Unless they decide to give up science denial and start to contribute to policy development, they'll just find themselves more and more marginalised IMO.<br /><br />They are still quite influential in some countries, like the US and Australia but I won't be surprised if they wake up one day soon to find the tide of public opinion has turned against them. It will probably seem (to them) to happen suddenly.<br /><br />For example, IMO Judith Curry made a huge strategic error in aligning herself with an ugly (and uncouth) specimen like Mark Steyn.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39010275053163291882015-12-12T16:27:31.585+11:002015-12-12T16:27:31.585+11:00Dr Curry:
Senator Cruz seems very much into the Da...Dr Curry:<br /><i>Senator Cruz seems very much into the Data, and generally knowledgable about the scientific process. One of his staffers is an avid reader of CE, WUWT and apparently Steve Goddard’s blog.......<br /><br /><br />Well I hope that Senator Cruz’s staff found my testimony helpful. In hindsight, I pitched this a little too ‘high’. And I didn’t really address the main propaganda points from the Democrats: 97% consensus, and warmest year.</i><br /><br />Curry is incapable of experiencing embarrassment or shame. PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80929199308366624352015-12-12T16:25:24.279+11:002015-12-12T16:25:24.279+11:00"he could make a very good living as one of t..."he could make a very good living as one of the US television preachers who con the life savings from gullible people looking for a saviour."<br /><br />Rat says that a lot. Cruz's father is a televangelist.<br /><br />Ted Cruz’s dad is even more frightening than Ted Cruz<br />http://www.salon.com/2015/09/23/ted_cruz_dad_is_even_more_frightening_than_ted_cruz/<br /><br />Wharf RatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-62075693969335943472015-12-12T15:54:00.997+11:002015-12-12T15:54:00.997+11:00Ah, good. I've been wondering when they'd ...Ah, good. I've been wondering when they'd get the final text sorted.<br /><br />I hadn't heard about Avaaz going AWOL but did notice Greenpeace being silly again at the Arc de Triomphe. They aren't doing themselves (or the rest of us) any favours. Fortunately things have reached a stage where even if some activists behave like complete idiots it won't have any significant effect.<br /><br />Which leads to an obvious question about deniers: are they even relevant any more? I know they will go more and more apeshit as things keep turning against them, but does it matter now?Contrail Chooknoreply@blogger.com