tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post1695870471831524455..comments2024-02-12T15:25:44.028+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Denier weirdness at WUWT: Anoxic oceans, socialism and a deficit of CO2Souhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-14309687542964328552013-10-31T23:14:28.403+11:002013-10-31T23:14:28.403+11:00I think he would have been between 22/23 and 30 th...I think he would have been between 22/23 and 30 then so between 60 and 68 now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39691215654204063892013-10-31T05:43:13.042+11:002013-10-31T05:43:13.042+11:00People rather underestimate the quality of or educ...People rather underestimate the quality of or education available in the socialist republic of great britain before the sainted Margaret freed the peons from their slavery. Courtney claimed to have authored chapters in one of those big doorstop books used by engineers when they need to check something, but the versions I could find didn't mention him at all, so either his contribution was deleted after a year or two or someone stole his work, or, he actually contributed some numbers.<br /><br />Anonymous - so is Courtney older or younger than I suggested. I got the impression he was older, but if he was just above you in the hierarchy nearly 40 years ago, maybe he is only mid 60's. <br /><br />Oh wait, De smogblog has an article of him, he looks around 60 ish in his photo. HHmm, so getting old isn't the reason he's an idiot.<br />It also says:<br />"In the early 1990s Courtney was a Senior Material Scientist of the National Coal Board (also known as British Coal) and a Science and Technology spokesman of the British Association of Colliery Management."<br />That's the kind of job I was trying to find, but there aren't any nowadays, which is one reason why I'm unemployed. <br />guthrienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-35896460405792229002013-10-31T05:32:55.837+11:002013-10-31T05:32:55.837+11:00Those engaged in the usual stupid physics denial o...Those engaged in the usual stupid physics denial of claiming that elevated GHG forcing somehow would not cause the ocean to heat up have missed the important part of this study:<br /><br /><i>[A] research team led by University of California, Riverside biogeochemists reports that oxygen-free and hydrogen sulfide-rich waters extended across roughly five percent of the global ocean during this major climatic perturbation — far more than the modern ocean’s 0.1 percent but much less than previous estimates for this event.<br /><br />The research suggests that previous estimates of oxygen-free and hydrogen sulfide-rich conditions, or “euxinia,” were too high. Nevertheless, the limited and localized euxinia were still sufficiently widespread to have dramatic effect on the entire ocean’s chemistry and thus biological activity.<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />“Our work shows that even though only a small portion of the ocean contained toxic and metal-scavenging hydrogen sulfide, it was sufficiently large so that changes to the ocean’s chemistry and biology were likely profound,” Owens said. “What this says is that only portions of the ocean need to contain sulfide to greatly impact biota.”</i><br /><br />I haven't seen this paper, but if the authors are correct, they have uncovered something else to be uncomfortable about, namely that ocean anoxic events of relatively small area extent are more disruptive to the global marine ecosystem that previously supposed. <br /><br />The press release is a bit coy about it, but the OAE under investigation is the Cenomanian-Turanian boundary OAE 2 event, which was a biggie. But not, perhaps, in terms of the actual extent of anoxic/dysoxic waters. <br />BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-22106575572160447702013-10-30T20:41:25.637+11:002013-10-30T20:41:25.637+11:00To be fair I think the correct title was a Technic...To be fair I think the correct title was a Technical Officer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-91614057700280821502013-10-30T15:39:25.347+11:002013-10-30T15:39:25.347+11:00OK, I just clicked on your archive link and that W...OK, I just clicked on your archive link and that WUWT comment section was unbelievably pathetic this time. I actually laughed loudly a couple of times. Richard got me with his "troll" this and "troll" that, followed by "socialist!" from the others. Then, all angry souls tried to use their common hatred of AGW "alarmists" as a rallying cry for unity. It's a Greek tragedy + political sitcom all thrown into one. This begs the question - would people behave better if the discussion focused more on the science and less on the worldviews? And when I say science, I really mean science not anti-science BS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-70234137519442909842013-10-30T14:34:12.801+11:002013-10-30T14:34:12.801+11:00A lab assistant eh? A TA, not even a TO. A good oc...A lab assistant eh? A TA, not even a TO. A good occupation but it sounds as if he aspired to more but didn't do the necessary study. I figured his education was a diploma mill 'theology' diploma, given his "Rev" title. I doubt he has any formal scientific qualification going by his posts.<br /><br />He does have a giant chip on his shoulder.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-28604492070549640932013-10-30T14:01:45.317+11:002013-10-30T14:01:45.317+11:00The only conclusion I draw from that gibberish is ...The only conclusion I draw from that gibberish is that English is obviously not his first language.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-29714288098736797212013-10-30T13:42:48.852+11:002013-10-30T13:42:48.852+11:00The Coal Board?!? Socialist!
The Coal Board?!? Socialist!<br />Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-24137745082388566962013-10-30T13:32:56.305+11:002013-10-30T13:32:56.305+11:00I hear the money's in Agenda 21 these days. Th...I hear the money's in Agenda 21 these days. That's where Monckton's gone, and he has a nose for these things. Weird eyes, but a good nose.Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6113860798161068942013-10-30T11:46:29.366+11:002013-10-30T11:46:29.366+11:00Dixie is one, and Smokey says 'IANAS, but I th...Dixie is one, and Smokey says 'IANAS, but I think most Socialists have their hearts in the right place'?<br /><br />Say what!?<br /><br />I thought all the green (Socialist!) Socialist (Socialist!) eco-Nazi (Nazis are Socialists!, remember. Like North Korea is 'Democratic'.) UN (Socialist!) IPCC (Socialist!) watermelon (geddit?! Socialist!) scientists (Socialists!) were the epitome of all Evil (Socialist!). <br /><br />I mean, aren't they all trying to Regulate (Socialist!) and maybe even Tax (Socialist!) the Most Hallowed Free Market™ (un-Socialist! Bourse be Praised!), and as our beloved new PM (un-Socialist! Repent, Sinners!) points out, that's Socialism, that is!<br /><br />Anthony will just have to stamp out this particular Red brushfire. Someone might yet ask him to pay more Tax...billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-26077688419221578952013-10-30T09:49:58.667+11:002013-10-30T09:49:58.667+11:00I had a summer holiday job in the mid seventies in...I had a summer holiday job in the mid seventies in a lab at the Coal Board. (My father worked there). I had just completed my A Levels and was waiting to go to university. The next most junior person after me in the lab was Richard Courtney. He did not have a Doctorate and I'm not even sure that at that point he had a degree. (Does anybody know what his degree from the Open University is in?) He was essentially a lab assistant. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2634976560152417822013-10-30T09:09:19.203+11:002013-10-30T09:09:19.203+11:00It's E&E, so my comments are (1) What else...It's E&E, so my comments are (1) What else could you expect? and (2) When referring to it as a "journal", use scare quotes thusly.Don Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379725341973886243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-15311905143329528122013-10-30T08:57:52.370+11:002013-10-30T08:57:52.370+11:00WTF? Courtney reckons he's a socialist! I...WTF? Courtney reckons he's a socialist! I'm flabberghasted. I've had run ins with him before, and he gave no sign of being one. But, if you think about it, there's a small number of socialists of the "Mankind is the measure of all things and can conquer all!" sort who think industrialisation is wonderful and ignore the pollution. Some of them write for Spiked. <br /><br />Sou, Courtney is retired, he must be in his 70's by now, or near enough. He's made all sorts of claims about things he's worked on with the coal board and suchlike, and of the one or two I was able to check, I couldn't find any evidence about him being so wonderful. <br /><br />guthrienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-33611278542057603222013-10-30T08:22:53.617+11:002013-10-30T08:22:53.617+11:00Thought I'd dig a little deeper on the referen...Thought I'd dig a little deeper on the reference Courtney gives. According to this page http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16734781 his affiliation is the very journal he is publishing in. <br /><br />Of the co-authors, A Rorsch appears to be Professor Arthur Rorsch, molecular geneticist, and D Thoenes is Dirk Thoenes, a chemical engineer. So, not one relevant qualification amongst them. Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-11334407086040639572013-10-30T08:06:03.810+11:002013-10-30T08:06:03.810+11:00According to WUWT, all models are equally wrong, b...According to WUWT, all models are equally wrong, but some models are more equally wrong than others.<br /><br />Not sure why the Rev R S Courtney bothers because he signed an thing that basically says God is sorting it out so what's the fuss.Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74623275417461508492013-10-30T06:54:22.812+11:002013-10-30T06:54:22.812+11:00That thread of Eli's is a beauty. Thanks, Phi...That thread of Eli's is a beauty. Thanks, Phil. I knew richardscourtney was nutty, I didn't realise he was such a fantasist.<br /><br />I noticed that in the current WUWT thread richardscourtney wrote (October 29, 2013 at 5:33 am):<br /><br /><i>"I have been promoting real science against AGW scaremongering for 33 years and it has cost me much time, trouble and money." </i><br /><br />I can easily see from a scientific perspective why he can't make any money. And maybe he's not managed to make too much from the anti-science lobby groups. Time for him to think of a career change? Maybe he could become an anti-vaxxer or a UFO-er.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-14049336122278829082013-10-30T04:48:30.301+11:002013-10-30T04:48:30.301+11:00One assumes this Richard Courtney is the same one ...One assumes this Richard Courtney is the same one who has signed various <a href="http://www.john-daly.com/guests/openletter.htm" rel="nofollow">open</a> letters and petitions, and awarded himself a Doctorate at the same time. A Ph.D he never actually, y'know, <a href="http://rabett.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/on-astounding-diplphil-courtney.html" rel="nofollow">earned</a>.<br /><br />I made a polite request to know the topic of his thesis and which institution awarded him the degree, but Anthony snipped it.<br /><br />Classy.Phil Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744659873337514317noreply@blogger.com