tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post1537953616666687036..comments2024-02-12T15:25:44.028+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Denier weirdness: Paranoid conspiracy blog WUWT branches out into ozone hole denialSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47680739487013709572014-09-17T08:20:05.961+10:002014-09-17T08:20:05.961+10:00He's our recently removed Secretary of State f...He's our recently removed Secretary of State for the Environment's bezzy mate, which explains why dear Owen Paterson refers to the environmental movement as "the Green Blob", haw-haw. Apparently Ridders owned our environmental policies like Grima Wormtongue owned Rohan. Paterson's batshit crazy ramblings sadly betrayed Ridley's real thoughts on the subject of climate and the environment, as far as this British citizen is concerned.J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-64804827292231767562014-09-16T05:21:05.785+10:002014-09-16T05:21:05.785+10:00O.M.G.
I didn't know Matt Ridley was a nutter...O.M.G.<br /><br />I didn't know Matt Ridley was a nutter. I thought he was just a free market luke warmer. Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-21584660065942304512014-09-16T05:13:21.345+10:002014-09-16T05:13:21.345+10:00Still , Tim Ball has one fan: Matt Ridley. This wa...Still , Tim Ball has one fan: Matt Ridley. This was published in the UK as a Op Ed piece in The Times:<br /><br />http://www.thegwpf.com/matt-ridley-the-ozone-hole-isnt-fixed-but-thats-no-worry/<br /><br />Anthony get a mention for his "diligence" Bwana_Mkubwanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-16502111779586264632014-09-15T08:33:00.915+10:002014-09-15T08:33:00.915+10:00I imagine there was no money to be made in ozone d...I imagine there was no money to be made in ozone depletion denial prior to the period surrounding the Montreal Protocol. You could be forgiven for hypothesising why the ozone science of the 1970s may have slipped some minds.J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-12793972827457604262014-09-15T02:25:47.278+10:002014-09-15T02:25:47.278+10:00Tim Ball wasn't awake when he retroactively cr...Tim Ball wasn't awake when he retroactively created the "Climatology" program at the U of M either. It's all kind of a blur, really, but he's a big draw at retiree lunch lectures (sadly, I'm not making this up).ValuedContributornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-69480342322405201942014-09-15T02:21:20.566+10:002014-09-15T02:21:20.566+10:00No, as a long-time Tim Ball fan I thought "ph...No, as a long-time Tim Ball fan I thought "phantasmagorical cesspool" was genius!ValuedContributornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-72318349318916122392014-09-14T03:30:06.868+10:002014-09-14T03:30:06.868+10:00Pages 23-30 seem relevant. Seems that some measur...Pages 23-30 seem relevant. Seems that some measures are significantly up, some are up but are not yet significant. Lots of interesting tidbits in there.numerobisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-75308100250497954312014-09-14T03:18:16.580+10:002014-09-14T03:18:16.580+10:00Here's the actual press release that Reuters d...Here's the actual press release that Reuters didn't mention a link to.<br />https://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/news/pr_1003_en.html<br /><br />"Total column ozone declined over most of the globe during the 1980s and early 1990s. It has remained relatively unchanged since 2000, but there are recent indications of its future recovery."<br /><br />There's a link to a PDF of the report, and a link to some annual reports.numerobisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-28161143340785962562014-09-14T03:07:59.756+10:002014-09-14T03:07:59.756+10:00I guess Tim Ball wasn't awake when the problem...I guess Tim Ball wasn't awake when the problem of ozone depletion became a political issue in the 1970s, not the 90s as he said. Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-46114561279454804972014-09-13T23:26:20.359+10:002014-09-13T23:26:20.359+10:00The way I read it was that the layer as a whole is...The way I read it was that the layer as a whole is showing some signs of recovery with " indications of a small increase in total ozone". Over Antarctica, the "hole" seems to have stopped getting bigger, but it won't be till 2025 or so before it becomes measurably smaller.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-46904881412438175692014-09-13T22:59:07.876+10:002014-09-13T22:59:07.876+10:00I couldn't quite understand the reuters story:...I couldn't quite understand the reuters story: it waffled between "it's not shrinking" and "it's growing". "Not shrinking" has been reported before, and the area trend seems to be slightly down. Is this just a not-yet-significant trend, which should become significant next decade?numerobisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-90317831604924322682014-09-13T22:54:24.824+10:002014-09-13T22:54:24.824+10:00Speak for yourself - they don't beat me. Talen...Speak for yourself - they don't beat me. Talent trumps experience every time.<br /><br />The secret is not to let them get you mad, which is not something they're capable of. They're used to handing it out but when they have to take it they start whining, which is never attractive but can be terribly amusing.Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-76424087006337374472014-09-13T22:36:22.548+10:002014-09-13T22:36:22.548+10:00It could have been a good and informative blog-pos...It could have been a good and informative blog-post about someone way out realism - if it hasn't been riddled with name calling. The anti science-people needn't to be called "sleazebag" or "cesspool". Why does the author give them ammunition for tit for tat? Their ridiculous science denial is more than enough. <br /><br />I know its sometimes not easy not to fall for such vocabulary - such people tend to draw others down to their level. But once you are that down, they beat you with experience.<br /><br />facepalmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-7656380517060970322014-09-13T21:02:39.829+10:002014-09-13T21:02:39.829+10:00If you didn't know his history, you'd thin...If you didn't know his history, you'd think this was a deliberate effort to rack up evidence for an insanity defence in the defamation lawsuits against him.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-78268020875513991922014-09-13T20:58:40.074+10:002014-09-13T20:58:40.074+10:00Tim Ball is completely off his rockers.
In one se...Tim Ball is completely off his rockers.<br /><br />In one sentence he will say that ozone varies naturally. (Which would imply that any 'holes' would be natural)<br /><br />And then in another he says there is no hole, despite the unequivocal evidence that it exists.<br /><br />You can't get more loopy that that can you?<br /><br />And then of course Watt's legion of blind followers dutifully clamour over each other to see who can get the most outrageous fact-free opinion in. The crazier the better. Talk about well trained.<br /><br />And of course anyone dumb enough to wander by and try to explain the facts (if they can even get it past the comment bin) will be hounded down with ad homs, false accusations and outright nastiness. Shameful!!Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-10854021370132322762014-09-13T20:54:03.160+10:002014-09-13T20:54:03.160+10:00Thanks, MWS, fixed.
[Memo to self - proof read ...Thanks, MWS, fixed. <br /><br />[Memo to self - proof read before posting :( ]Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-20047450898324708222014-09-13T20:51:36.075+10:002014-09-13T20:51:36.075+10:00Thats a wonderful article and set of comments at W...Thats a wonderful article and set of comments at WUWT. Its so funny how they have a tissy fit when Stephan.Lewandowsky labels them conspiracy theorists and then they go and prove him right with crap like this. I'm surprised the less stupid deniers don't begin to suspect that WUWT is really a secret arm of the IPCC, dedicated to proving what numpties climate change deniers are.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-82095446328843433902014-09-13T20:38:42.007+10:002014-09-13T20:38:42.007+10:00"In the last couple of days there was a press..."In the last couple of days there was a press release saying that the ozone has stopped growing." Should that be the ozone HOLE has stopped growing?<br /> MWSnoreply@blogger.com