tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post9107958046068465909..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: David Archibald (again) predicts an ice age to cometh @wattsupwiththatSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-9056049035354341692017-06-10T21:23:21.335+10:002017-06-10T21:23:21.335+10:00Millicent you may enjoy this talk by Sean Carroll....Millicent you may enjoy this talk by Sean Carroll.<br />It is about the Universe being composed of quantum fields rather than particles.<br /><br />It is well worth a look for all. Here<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEKSpZPByD0<br /><br />When I was first introduced to quantum mechanics in 1969 it actually frightened me. Bert<br /><br />Bert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-56366663400588058382017-06-10T18:48:34.703+10:002017-06-10T18:48:34.703+10:00"Nobody knows what those forces are, but they...<i>"Nobody knows what those forces are, but they are there."</i><br /><br />Woo woooooh! <br /><br />Argument from supernatural fallacy.Jammy Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360437479098314946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-77405210790510633852017-06-10T17:35:23.726+10:002017-06-10T17:35:23.726+10:00Physicists are clearly wasting their time working ...Physicists are clearly wasting their time working on stuff like Unified Field Theory when there are immensely powerful forces - capable of affecting entire planets - that they know nothing about.<br /><br />Alternatively, our denier friend is parroting garbage without stopping to think about how stupid it is.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-75765648397690418872017-06-10T14:14:49.473+10:002017-06-10T14:14:49.473+10:00"Nobody knows what those forces are, but they..."Nobody knows what those forces are, but they are there..."<br /><br />Argument from Ignorance fallacy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11872802685104293884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-62491167988675315802017-06-08T19:37:29.375+10:002017-06-08T19:37:29.375+10:00Oh skeptical! :)
That is just a hoot. You overstr...Oh skeptical! :)<br /><br />That is just a hoot. You overstretched yourself there and ventured to criticise a graph and showed even that was little above your competence. All you did was prove you have never investigated the science and just form your opinions from the echo chamber. <br /><br />But it is not important so we will all chill out. (Is that a sort of acknowledgement you agree you were wrong?)<br /><br /><br />Jammy Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360437479098314946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-50350266529267514242017-06-08T10:54:46.593+10:002017-06-08T10:54:46.593+10:00"The planet cooled for the little ice age and..."The planet cooled for the little ice age and then it warmed again... and nobody has a clue why"<br /><br />The tide goes in, the tide goes out. O'reilly is trying to make a comeback on HotWhopper! Graghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03561522572556887923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-51044984323165300852017-06-08T07:38:09.741+10:002017-06-08T07:38:09.741+10:00Australians are becoming nomads?
I'll warn t...Australians are becoming nomads? <br /><br />I'll warn the TRANZAC Club in Toronto to expect a mob soon.jrkrideauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869979887929067657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-77797603933808316232017-06-08T06:43:17.631+10:002017-06-08T06:43:17.631+10:00Hi, Sou, I'm flattered that you released a &qu...Hi, Sou, I'm flattered that you released a "second edition" after seeing my comment at WUWT. I was gobsmacked by Archibald's tangential and sarcastic comment: no attempt to explain his gross failure on the grounds that it was more than 10 years ago. That said, there is a grotesque honesty about the man: "we keep changing our story, and, frankly, we couldn't care less if someone points this out" rather sums up the denialosphere. <br /><br />Thanks for pointing out that he dived head first into the factor X bovine faeces. I had no idea about that. Funny how there's no hint about that, as far as I could tell, in his latest effortBill Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-46475334572521847942017-06-08T05:15:24.875+10:002017-06-08T05:15:24.875+10:00I didn't know about all those changes :)
It g...I didn't know about all those changes :)<br /><br />It gets worse. The whole of <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-28/aust-latitude-longitude-coordinates-out-by-1-5m-scientists/7666858" rel="nofollow">Australia is on the move</a>.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-30351585917247735442017-06-08T04:03:02.482+10:002017-06-08T04:03:02.482+10:00Totally off topic but fun.
http://blog.revolutio...Totally off topic but fun. <br /><br />http://blog.revolutionanalytics.com/2017/05/because-its-friday-history-of-australia.html<br /><br />How do you Australians know where you are living? :)jrkrideauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869979887929067657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47734282448791731772017-06-08T04:02:01.793+10:002017-06-08T04:02:01.793+10:00"Until somebody comes up with the processes i..."Until somebody comes up with the processes involved in driving natural variability"<br /><br />you mean AGW Tadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19992051913017981302017-06-08T03:57:18.970+10:002017-06-08T03:57:18.970+10:00@skeptikal
give up man - you are making yourself ...@skeptikal<br /><br />give up man - you are making yourself look like an idiot Tadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-27148929217221214612017-06-08T02:56:43.384+10:002017-06-08T02:56:43.384+10:00A skeptitroll who's too lazy to download and p...A skeptitroll who's too lazy to download and plot GISTEMP data and opts instead for a public display of his own ignorance?<br /><br />Well that's a shock. I may need to lie down.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-85757016316854946202017-06-08T02:13:53.522+10:002017-06-08T02:13:53.522+10:00Thanks, the word "mean" didn't show ...Thanks, the word "mean" didn't show up in legend under the bottom chart. That wasn't the chart that Skeptikal was referring to however. He was talking about the top ones, where the period started much later.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-5619884201223996012017-06-08T02:09:25.444+10:002017-06-08T02:09:25.444+10:00Minor typo in your first graph: the blue line is l...Minor typo in your first graph: the blue line is labeled "observed 1881-1910" but the data range is to 2016 or so.<br /><br />Maybe that obvious label error is what caused skeptical to be so confused. Well, that and several truckloads of ignorance.numerobisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-85452065528391638202017-06-08T01:58:21.638+10:002017-06-08T01:58:21.638+10:00Yeah. Makes you wonder what else he doesn't kn...Yeah. Makes you wonder what else he doesn't know. Does he have children and wonder how in the heck that happened?Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-83506188805649005512017-06-08T01:54:28.205+10:002017-06-08T01:54:28.205+10:00I guess skeptikal is really Papa Bear in disguise ...I guess skeptikal is really Papa Bear in disguise (taking time off from harassing the female help)...<br /><br />"The tide goes in, the tide goes out. You can't explain that!"jgnfldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-57052751105073770872017-06-08T01:42:33.983+10:002017-06-08T01:42:33.983+10:00Nobody knows what those forces are, but they are t...<i>Nobody knows what those forces are, but they are there.</i> <br /><br />This is the sort of ignorant statement that is expected on a climate hoax conspiracy blog. The fact that you don't know, Skeptikal, doesn't mean that nobody else knows.<br /><br />You could learn about "those forces" by reading some science, for example from the IPCC reports.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter08_FINAL.pdf" rel="nofollow">Chapter 8</a> is about Anthropogenic and Natural Radiative Forcing and describes forcings such as greenhouse gases, volcanic eruptions, water vapour, clouds, solar irradiance and more.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter14_FINAL.pdf" rel="nofollow">Chapter 14</a> is about Climate Phenomena and their Relevance for Future Regional Climate Change, and describes internal variability including ENSO and other ocean observations (e.g. Pacific Decadal Oscillation), monsoons, Madden–Julian Oscillation and much more.<br /><br />The <a href="http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/" rel="nofollow">latest WG1 report</a> is worth reading if you would like to learn about climate and climate change. Allow plenty of time to digest it (weeks or months), and read some of the references.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-25676749459539902262017-06-08T01:25:51.571+10:002017-06-08T01:25:51.571+10:00Define carefully "...cooling of 0.1 - 0.2 deg...Define carefully "...cooling of 0.1 - 0.2 degrees over the next two decades..."Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-69754621166231182612017-06-08T01:04:26.896+10:002017-06-08T01:04:26.896+10:00"Millicent, it sounds like you spend more tim..."Millicent, it sounds like you spend more time at WUWT than I do."<br /><br />ROFL. Your powers of deduction are nil. Seriously how do I know what goes on at WUWT? How could I know? So hard to figure it out! Well, given where we are right now, do you think it is possible I might obtain my knowledge of WUWT by reading HotWhopper?<br /><br />Seriously: how stupid must you be not to figure that out?Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-5101224751995982472017-06-08T00:57:37.247+10:002017-06-08T00:57:37.247+10:00"Nobody knows what those forces are, but they..."Nobody knows what those forces are, but they are there."<br /><br />ROFL. The actual causes are well known. But you are referring to the extra ones that have to exist in order for deniers such as yourself to make sense of the world. There is a name for them: illusionary forces that would have to be so powerful they can cause an ice age and yet at the same time be utterly invisible to science can reasonably be called climate elves. The name is indicative of the fact that to believe in them you have to be as ignorant of science as a very small child.<br /><br />"Ruling out any short term cooling is, in my opinion, foolish in the extreme."<br /><br />No: belief in climate elves is foolish in the extreme.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-77881528748290080222017-06-08T00:56:13.703+10:002017-06-08T00:56:13.703+10:00Millicent, it sounds like you spend more time at W...Millicent, it sounds like you spend more time at WUWT than I do.<br /><br />Are you always like this, or is your head still exploding over Trump showing some real leadership?skeptikalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59448596789047771232017-06-08T00:50:20.460+10:002017-06-08T00:50:20.460+10:00Bluster bluster bluster.
"Normally a heading...Bluster bluster bluster.<br /><br />"Normally a heading would state the period being graphed"<br /><br />We have seen graphs at WUWT where the period being graphed isn't even the same as the period displayed on the time axis. Now, if you were a skeptic you would be aware of this. So tell us which WUWT graph I am referring to. Or at least have the grace to choose a more appropriate name (I suggest YetAnotherShill) for yourself.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74833510985141152782017-06-08T00:45:03.413+10:002017-06-08T00:45:03.413+10:00Nick, I'll make it real for you. There are for...Nick, I'll make it real for you. There are forces strong enough to take Earth into an ice age and forces strong enough to bring us out of an ice age. Nobody knows what those forces are, but they are there. The planet cooled for the little ice age and then it warmed again... and nobody has a clue why, so they just call it 'natural variability'. Predicting cooling over the next couple of decades is no less realistic than predicting warming. Until somebody comes up with the processes involved in driving natural variability, it's all just speculation. Ruling out any short term cooling is, in my opinion, foolish in the extreme.skeptikalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-83550111318019961702017-06-08T00:22:29.670+10:002017-06-08T00:22:29.670+10:00What exactly do you think is going to cause that c...What exactly do you think is going to cause that cooling?<br /><br />CabcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com