tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post909561802225280191..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Disinformation Lesson 1a: Anthony Watts' trained lapdog Eric "Eugenics" Worral plays a dangerous gameSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-49658358292606616172014-07-20T00:02:38.261+10:002014-07-20T00:02:38.261+10:00Thanks, Dhogaza. You are right. I probably need a ...Thanks, Dhogaza. You are right. I probably need a glossary to work through the techniques used by disinformers.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-45908174174174797302014-07-19T23:42:12.984+10:002014-07-19T23:42:12.984+10:00" One of the first lessons disinformers learn..." One of the first lessons disinformers learn is how to cherry pick. That means taking anything from one word to ten from a blog article, a stolen personal email, a scientific paper or even from a video transcript and putting them in a different context of your choosing. In other words, distorting at best but usually making something up altogether and then falsely attributing it to the person you want to misrepresent or defame."<br /><br />This is actually defined as "quote mining", perfected by creationists in the United States in the last half of the 20th century.<br /><br />Quote mining is a deeper sin than simple cherry picking, as the latter can be a simple consequence of not understanding statistics, rather than an intentional effort to disinform (though there are plenty of denialists who do so of course). Quote mining is always intentional and always dishonest ...dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-91284692529784635262014-07-19T23:29:55.771+10:002014-07-19T23:29:55.771+10:00Worral is really plumbing the depths with this rec...Worral is really plumbing the depths with this recycling of a definitive bit of Boltian disingenuity. Bolt repeats this slur numerous times a year, it's obviously masturbatory for him.<br /><br />The omission of the contextualising question "what will it mean if the predictions are correct" is the key to Bolt's 'success' as a propagandist, and a key to his failure as a human being. Imagine endorsing Bolt's cynical framings...Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09537772941984056434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-32212077677806783142014-07-19T21:20:37.196+10:002014-07-19T21:20:37.196+10:00Catmando, I think Anthony sees WUWT as part busine...Catmando, I think Anthony sees WUWT as part business venture part service to the denier cause. I don't mind him asking people to fork out. I don't have any strong exception to panhandling or begging. <br /><br />As Skeptikal points out it's a matter of degree and people can judge what they are paying for. A holiday for Anthony or ongoing high quality reports and communication from the Climate Council - or next week's rent or mortgage payment or vegemite sandwich.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-68660546401133021342014-07-19T20:54:14.762+10:002014-07-19T20:54:14.762+10:00You're right, Skeptikal. Neither Anthony Watts...You're right, Skeptikal. Neither Anthony Watts or Eric Worrall or Andrew Bolt made a mistake, I was using a euphemism out of deference to deniers desire for political correctness. (See my upcoming article.) They are deliberately making stuff up to feed the fantasies of the run of the mill dumb denier.<br /><br />Happy now?<br /><br />As for your bit about excellence, yes, it's obviously just as easy for you to say that. It only takes a few mouse clicks. I wouldn't expect you to say anything else. I, on the other hand, would find it very difficult to say that because I have standards and suffer a conscience.<br /><br />Another thing, you can argue the point about "excellent job" with Wondering Willis Eschenbach, who thinks Anthony Watts is as dumb as an ox and WUWT is full of complete and utter rubbish. If that's what Anthony aspires to, and he didn't dispute Willis, then he is indeed doing an "excellent job". <br /><br /><a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/07/its-official-its-not-anthonys-job.html" rel="nofollow">Anthony's "excellent job".</a><br /><br />So I would have no difficulty finding it easy to say that, but only by using Willis' definition of what the job is. There would then be no conflict between us. The Climate Council is doing an excellent job of communicating the science. Anthony is doing an excellent job of peddling complete and utter nonsense. You can pay for your nonsense and Anthony's holidays (expecting nothing in return) while I'll support sense and science and expect reports of a high standard.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-84026946756442022542014-07-19T20:41:11.282+10:002014-07-19T20:41:11.282+10:00Anthony seems to have at least two jobs - reading ...Anthony seems to have at least two jobs - reading the weather on a Fox affiliate radio station and selling his weather gadgets. So it is a bit rich asking his acolytes to fund his trips. No, I'd go so far as to say he's taking them for a ride. Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47002780666255017172014-07-19T20:02:18.936+10:002014-07-19T20:02:18.936+10:00I guess it all comes down to individual perspectiv...I guess it all comes down to individual perspective as to what constitutes a mistake. You say that Anthony is begging for money BUT.. "The Climate Council needs funds to continue its excellent job". I could just as easily say that Anthony needs funds to continue his excellent work and Tim is begging for money, through the climate council, to maintain his lifestyle.Skeptikalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31019751572352677542014-07-19T18:52:37.814+10:002014-07-19T18:52:37.814+10:00My mistake. They were volunteers at the outset, bu...My mistake. They were volunteers at the outset, but I see now that:<br /><br />"After the first six months, our Board decided that Councillors would receive remuneration for time spent on Council activities. This ensures we can continue to draw on the knowledge and experience of world-class experts to provide Australians with the best possible information on climate change."<br /><br />https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/faqs<br /><br />Now we've sorted that out, have you got a comment on all the mistakes that Andrew Bolt and Eric eugenics Worrall and Anthony Watts are perpetuating?Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39001368180376962002014-07-19T18:48:07.011+10:002014-07-19T18:48:07.011+10:00"The Councillors donate their time for free.&..."The Councillors donate their time for free."<br /><br />Are you sure about that?Skeptikalnoreply@blogger.com