tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post8884640038331105098..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Anthony Watts, cosmic rays, Hockey Schtick and Dan PangburnSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4166692689502274052016-08-30T21:43:37.959+10:002016-08-30T21:43:37.959+10:00Dan Pangburn was over at Nick Stokes's site ba...Dan Pangburn was over at <a href="https://moyhu.blogspot.com/2016/05/surface-templs-global-temperature-down.html" rel="nofollow">Nick Stokes's site</a> back in May, promoting his same (completely wrong) "analysis".<br /><br />The flaws in Dan's work are too many to go into here. He thinks he is doing "thermodynamics" but he's not. It's entirely based on a non-physical, empirically developed method for turning annual sunspot numbers into a time-series that closely resembles the shape of the CO2 concentration time-series. Because CO2 is closely correlated with temperature, Dan's mangled-sunspot time series is also closely correlated with temperature. He then (wrongly) interprets the high correlation coefficient for his mangled-sunspot data as meaning that the percent of variation in temp explained by CO2 must be small (less than 8%). <br /><br />It's all wrong, on so many levels -- physics, statistics, logic, you name it. Nednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-26635194001529404342016-08-28T19:59:06.502+10:002016-08-28T19:59:06.502+10:00Correlation is not causation as they say. The stud...Correlation is not causation as they say. The study is still speculating that cosmic rays influence cloud formation. But no one has been able to demonstrate that the cosmic rays do influence cloud formation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39956840338867651202016-08-28T08:13:00.624+10:002016-08-28T08:13:00.624+10:00"they doesn't"
Geez, I need an edit..."they doesn't"<br /><br />Geez, I need an editor.<br />D.C.Pettersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05078422582348328238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-29176495731069729082016-08-27T10:46:15.514+10:002016-08-27T10:46:15.514+10:00The full relationship between solar storms, cosmic...The full relationship between solar storms, cosmic rays, terrestrial clouds, and terrestrial heat is complex, potentially confusing, unproven, and unsettled. This makes it good fodder for obfuscation, whether intentional or not.<br /><br />Since the effects caused by the relationship(s) appear to be both transient and minor, they doesn't seem to be of real concern in the grand scheme of things. Yes, it would be both useful and important to fully understand them. But they are insufficient to explain the effects we've been observing for the last century.D.C.Pettersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05078422582348328238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31641846706534694602016-08-27T01:55:51.083+10:002016-08-27T01:55:51.083+10:00Hi Sou
A new paper published in the Journal of At...Hi Sou<br /><br />A new paper published in the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics in August 2016 finds:<br /><br />"There is a significant correlation only between cosmic ray (CR) intensity (and sunspot number (SSN)) and the cloud cover of the types cirrus and stratus. This effect is mainly confined to the CR intensity minimum during the epoch around 1990, when the SSN was at its maximum.This fact, together with the present study of the correlation of LSCC with our measured CR intensity, shows that there is no firm evidence for a significant contribution of CR induced ionization to the local (or, indeed, Global) cloud cover.<br /><br />Pressure effects are the preferred cause of the cloud cover changes. A consequence is that there is no evidence favouring a contribution of CR to the Global Warming problem. Our analysis shows that the LS data are consistent with the Gas Laws for a stable mass of atmosphere."<br /><br />Relevance of long term time – Series of atmospheric parameters at a mountain observatory to models for climate change<br />http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364682616301882<br /><br />Ceistnoreply@blogger.com