tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post8565169588559734305..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Is Cliff Mass taking the piss?Souhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-76903537491440188312014-03-23T19:49:08.581+11:002014-03-23T19:49:08.581+11:00Oh dear. Judith Curry says:
"Cliff Mass win...Oh dear. <a href="http://archive.is/l7EHu#selection-379.0-379.26" rel="nofollow">Judith Curry says:</a><br /><br /><i>"Cliff Mass wins this round"</i>Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4878209950692283232014-03-18T13:47:13.630+11:002014-03-18T13:47:13.630+11:00I would imagine if people were on an airliner head...I would imagine if people were on an airliner headed for a forced landing in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, their eyes would be wide with terror and foreboding. They would be praying to the mystical god of their upbringing and hoping for a miracle. <br />This is precisely the situation we have on Spaceship Earth. Yet they have glazed eyes that roll inverted. They are morons!<br />Bert<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-22344392611212925752014-03-18T11:38:45.412+11:002014-03-18T11:38:45.412+11:00The AGW denier movement is chewing its own feet of...The AGW denier movement is chewing its own feet off, and we get this kind of distraction. This is not the way to press home an advantage.<br /><br />I'm not alone in somehow overlooking claims that some single event proves AGW, despite taking a keen interest in the subject. What I am very used to is AGW deniers saying "Warmists will say that this proves AGW", right before nobody does.<br /><br />IMO, AGW and extreme weather events should always be linked in the general form "We can't say that climate change caused [event x] but ...", which brings the two concepts to mind together where they can form a desirable conceptual dimer, in the right environment.<br /><br />Another desirable conceptual dimer links "AGW denier" and "whackjob", but that's being handled for us by well-qualified volunteers..Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89655845030318199592014-03-18T02:52:09.455+11:002014-03-18T02:52:09.455+11:00Like you, I was curious about the presentations Dr...Like you, I was curious about the presentations Dr. Mass discusses and found his material not really that different than his fellow Univerity of Washington folks. I have been a reader of Cliff's blog for a long time (it is a good blog). He has become over sensitive to how AGW is presented to the point that his actual views on the subject get lost and he has become a bit lost in arguments about how AGW should or should not be presented. A waste of time since the barn door was open a long time ago.Dan McShanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17044037213245602667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19145183392552709822014-03-18T00:00:15.801+11:002014-03-18T00:00:15.801+11:00Thanks, Dan. Those presentations were interesting...Thanks, Dan. Those presentations were interesting in that they were quite a bit more detailed at the regional level than would have been possible a decade ago, I'd say.<br /><br />Cliff Mass' presentation was a bit different in some respects from the first one, but he probably had more in common with them than he had different.<br /><br />Like many other places, Washington State is going to have to make some big adjustments over the next few decades.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-86000672034139005562014-03-17T15:31:57.854+11:002014-03-17T15:31:57.854+11:00Here is the link to the panel along with the Power...Here is the link to the panel along with the Power Point presentations:<br /><br />https://app.leg.wa.gov/CMD/document.aspx?agency=3&year=2014&cid=15967&mid=20113&hid=156176Dan McShanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17044037213245602667noreply@blogger.com