tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post8478830667676506168..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Christopher Monckton urges WUWT deniers to play high stakes climate in Las VegasSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-44659846657645226222014-06-09T23:19:05.419+10:002014-06-09T23:19:05.419+10:00My understanding of what an "international co...My understanding of what an "international conference" means is that people are showing up from different countries -- this is as opposed to a conference that's only meant to be for locals. If Monckton shows up to the Heartland Conference, it can rightfully call itself international.<br /><br />My other understanding is that there are only two reasons to put "international" in your title: first, if it's a joint thing between national agencies (e.g. ISAIRAS, organized by various space agencies). Second, if it's a podunk conference that wants to sound more impressive than it really is.numerobisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-57875146555964354152014-06-07T22:25:59.050+10:002014-06-07T22:25:59.050+10:00“From the denialist perspective Christopher made a...“From the denialist perspective Christopher made an error because he implicitly tied fossil fuels to climate sensitivity, which many deniers like to deny.”<br />Sou<br /><br />From the denialist perspective I think there's another problem here that is very explicit. In the WUWT comments pokerguy writes:<br /><br />“This kind of paranoid, paradigmatic thinking is no better than the Left insisting that skeptics are all in the pay of big oil.”<br /><br />In effect, Moncton has confirmed this “paranoid, paradigmatic thinking.” <br /><br />“Yet governments – particularly on the hard Left – are doubling down on...regulating out of existence their political opponents’ principal funders, the fossil-fuel corporations.”<br /><br />What makes Monckton's remark especially interesting is that the fossil-fuel companies have discontinued their overt funding of opposition to ACC, and that denial funding in the U.S. to a considerable extent is funneled through organizations such as Donors Trust, whose justification is to make such funding untraceable:<br /><br />“Koch and ExxonMobil have recently pulled back from publicly visible funding. From 2003 to 2007, the Koch Affiliated Foundations and the ExxonMobil Foundation were heavily involved in funding climate-change denial organizations. But since 2008, they are no longer making publicly traceable contributions. <br /><br />Funding has shifted to pass through untraceable sources. Coinciding with the decline in traceable funding, the amount of funding given to denial organizations by the Donors Trust has risen dramatically. Donors Trust is a donor-directed foundation whose funders cannot be traced. This one foundation now provides about 25% of all traceable foundation funding used by organizations engaged in promoting systematic denial of climate change. <br /><br />Most funding for denial efforts is untraceable. Despite extensive data compilation and analyses, only a fraction of the hundreds of millions in contributions to climate change denying organizations can be specifically accounted for from public records. Approximately 75% of the income of these organizations comes from unidentifiable sources." <br />http://drexel.edu/now/news-media/releases/archive/2013/December/Climate-Change/ <br /><br />cosmicomicsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-84272539692247112662014-06-07T19:46:21.392+10:002014-06-07T19:46:21.392+10:00Adam, occasionally you'll see someone hinting ...Adam, occasionally you'll see someone hinting as much. However most of them know that Anthony's adoration of the British, and particularly what he would regard as near "royalty" runs deep. Like some people who live far away from Britain he's a devoted anglophile and a more devoted worshipper of titles, including those that haven't been earned. (This is illustrated by the dismay he shows at Prince Charles. A sort of exception that proves the rule.)<br /><br />There are also a couple of "socialists" at WUWT, like the irreverent Rev Richard S Courtney, who protests from time to time at the way WUWT-ers paint all "leftists" as not being part of the denialati, when clearly some of them are. Richard used to work in the coal industry. Maybe he was a unionist. Not sure. But I do know he opposed Maggie Thatcher's "war on coal".Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-5795057923208211002014-06-07T19:10:44.933+10:002014-06-07T19:10:44.933+10:00Have any of of the more nearly-sane members of the...Have any of of the more nearly-sane members of the denier choir there sung out about the danger of continued association with The Lord of the Clowns? (Sorry, I can't bring myself to actually look.) <br /><br />Even among Anthony's usual crowd of circus performers, he stands out as a particularly egregious buffoon. He is such an easy target for ridicule, one would think there would be some protest, however feeble, at even allowing him to show his face in the sacred environs of WUWT.Adam R.noreply@blogger.com