tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post8438105133795082340..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Fake outrage: Anthony Watts falsely smears while complaining about smearsSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-20072572952912747342015-03-01T03:21:09.949+11:002015-03-01T03:21:09.949+11:00"Actually, I can: “when people are producing ..."Actually, I can: “when people are producing work in line with the scientific consensus there’s no reason to go on a witch hunt.”"<br /><br />Is RPJ completely lacking any sense of irony or self-awareness? You put out work in line with the scientific consensus you have your emails hacked, you have politicians calling for your private correspondence and all your rough work, you have them wanting to prosecute you, you're expected to appear before hearings to defend yourself, you have to waste time, energy and money defending yourself from frivolous and invasive requests for information from other politicians, your name and reputation are slandered by entertainment media like Fox on their "news" and from the bloviating radio pinheads and commentators they support. <br /><br />Sheesh, if RPJ actually had done any work that supported the consensus he would have taken his ball and gone home over a decade ago because obviously he can't handle even a tiny taste of what mainstream scientists have been putting up with for a long time. (not to say I agree with Grijalva's approach, which is just as offensive now as it was when the same things were done to expert climate scientists).Dan Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12732509347477810998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-3433346992245907552015-02-27T19:27:20.322+11:002015-02-27T19:27:20.322+11:00Okay, thanks PG. My comment policy can be tricky t...Okay, thanks PG. My comment policy can be tricky to navigate.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-13272796639618687562015-02-27T19:09:44.036+11:002015-02-27T19:09:44.036+11:00Roger Pielke Jr is not "under investigation&q...Roger Pielke Jr is not "under investigation". As far as I am aware he (or his university) can simply ignore the request.<br /><br />US Representative Raúl Grijalva appears to have a track record for doing this type of thing - I think fishing expeditions like this are a bad idea.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89472058649460412662015-02-27T15:46:47.735+11:002015-02-27T15:46:47.735+11:00I didn't link it because I lifted it from CE.I didn't link it because I lifted it from CE.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-56064016090019115202015-02-27T15:15:31.381+11:002015-02-27T15:15:31.381+11:00Really? RPJ is getting out of climate commentary ...Really? RPJ is getting out of climate commentary because of persecution by the nasty consensus?<br /><br />I suppose that it has <b>nothing</b> to do with the fact that even more seriously ignorant deniers can no longer keep repeating their dross without looking like total fools...?Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19847337143746951412015-02-27T11:53:47.631+11:002015-02-27T11:53:47.631+11:00PG - that comment to relates to the request from U...PG - that comment to relates to the request from US Representative Raúl Grijalva (D-AZ) for Roger Pielke Jr's own funding sources, not to the treatment of Willie Soon.<br /><br />PS Repeat request: Pls link to source or archive of the source when quoting. Here is the link:<br /><br />https://theclimatefix.wordpress.com/2015/02/25/i-am-under-investigation/Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-79620092167985284942015-02-27T11:23:36.174+11:002015-02-27T11:23:36.174+11:00Jr is so upset at Soon's treatment he's ca...Jr is so upset at Soon's treatment he's called the removalists, That's gotta improve property prices.<br /><br /><i>The incessant attacks and smears are effective, no doubt, I have already shifted all of my academic work away from climate issues. I am simply not initiating any new research or papers on the topic and I have ring-fenced my slowly diminishing blogging on the subject. I am a full professor with tenure, so no one need worry about me — I’ll be just fine as there are plenty of interesting, research-able policy issues to occupy my time. But I can’t imagine the message being sent to younger scientists. Actually, I can: “when people are producing work in line with the scientific consensus there’s no reason to go on a witch hunt.”</i>PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-44815706123407676102015-02-27T10:52:28.180+11:002015-02-27T10:52:28.180+11:00Why not load Willie's bibliography into Academ...Why not load Willie's bibliography into Academica , ResearchGate , or some other general puurpose scientist-ranker, and let its disinterested software score Willie's work ?THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-78172484597141088182015-02-25T12:02:26.622+11:002015-02-25T12:02:26.622+11:00The science behind the image.
In interstellar spac...The science behind the image.<br />In interstellar space most free atoms can be monotonic as they never have a chance to combine into the molecules that we see in our atmosphere. <br />So there is very little H2, O2 ,N2 etc. apart from some gravitational aggregations that lead to clouds of complex molecules but that is a story for another day.<br />Light in the image is produced by monotonic Nitrogen ie a single N atom that interacts with an electron. The driving force of these interactions is large blue UV emitting stars. <br />The filter I have in my telescope lets through only the wavelength emitted by monotonic N. It blocks all others. This cannot occur on Earth as all N is N2. Its correct designation is N[II] . The solid brackets denote 'forbidden' transitions.<br />Those wispy tendrils you see in the image are most probably monotonic N at a concentration lower than any vacuum attainable on Earth. <br />So again science has done much ado about almost nothing. A bit like 280 ppm vs 400 ppm of CO2.Bert<br />Bert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-91269219725610631822015-02-25T11:16:49.871+11:002015-02-25T11:16:49.871+11:00Wow! That's quite the picture, Bert! Beautiful...Wow! That's quite the picture, Bert! Beautiful. My astrophotography consists of using cords and a soup can to attach my camera to my 8 inch Celestron, and being happy if blur doesn't render the object unidentifiable. Very impressive work on your part. <br /><br />Re: doing science unfunded. A great deal of work on birds is done by dedicated and unfunded birders. They've been submitting their data for decades, now made much easier with the advent of e-bird. This repository of bird data is used by organizations and individuals, and birders who volunteer their time to collect the data, and then sift through it, can make important contributions and sometimes have papers published (caveat: if you're using the data from a central repository, you'll be asked if you want to co-author with one of their folks---far as I know, you don't have to have a co-author, but you're usually working with someone fairly well known so that name recognition on the paper doesn't hurt. Dan Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12732509347477810998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47388293611509142892015-02-25T11:07:38.446+11:002015-02-25T11:07:38.446+11:00The image is of the Vela Super Nova Remnant. It is...The image is of the Vela Super Nova Remnant. It is about 8x6 degrees of sky. This SN occurred about eleven thousand years ago and would have been witnessed by our ancestors. It is now about 100 light years across.<br />There is a neutron star pulsar at its centre. <br />It is in the constellation of Vela near the Southern Cross.BertBert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-49176483165963452642015-02-25T10:50:23.105+11:002015-02-25T10:50:23.105+11:00I am retired and have set up a state of the art as...I am retired and have set up a state of the art astrophotography system in my backyard. It cost ME all up close to $100K with the observatory building. I do not use the name of organisation I used to work for add credence to my images. They stand alone for the world to evaluate.<br /><br />Here is one image. It is a mosaic of six panels of 3nm NII data. About five hours exposure per panel.<br /><br />http://d1355990.i49.quadrahosting.com.au/2015_01/VSNR_NII_6P.jpg<br /><br />The deception occurs if I use this image to claim incomprehensible rubbish about aliens or lizard people while saying I am a member of a highly regarded institution.<br /><br />The paid deniers of course are a bit more subtle. <br /><br />In my case I want to be totally responsible for my current work unlike when all my efforts went into making my superiors famous at my previous institution.<br /><br />Bert<br /><br />Bert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67977354685272046292015-02-25T08:27:49.636+11:002015-02-25T08:27:49.636+11:00==> "To my way of thinking, the implied ar...==> "To my way of thinking, the implied argument that Willie Soon's research was made to order for the funding bodies is too much like the denier argument that scientists only say what the government wants to hear."<br /><br /><br />I agree. Leave that kind of fallacious argument for "skeptics."<br /><br /><br />Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08058404311263880189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-5391974965386542212015-02-25T07:50:20.245+11:002015-02-25T07:50:20.245+11:00Jonathan, my comments were directed more at active...Jonathan, my comments were directed more at active scientists such as Soon. But as you note in "retirement" external funding might not be required, however science cannot be done for free. It can be done cheaply but will still cost something even if it comes from retirement savings. This is one reason why journals, conferences, etc want authors to make a statement on any possible conflicts of interest. Mike Pollardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-24473717999047482052015-02-25T06:52:46.151+11:002015-02-25T06:52:46.151+11:00The hacking of Pachauri's phone has echoes of ...The hacking of Pachauri's phone has echoes of both the faux-scandal "climategate", and the nefarious deeds of the Murdoch press. One of Murdoch's senior minions is doing time for the phone-hacking escapades, which included hacking a missing girl's phone, making her parents think she was still alive, though that may have been inadvertent.<br /><br />The Murdoch press would have made a meal out of Pachauri, and probably still will. That increases my suspicions, but it is probably for the greater good that Pachauri stepped away. He is a more honourable man that the ones who tried to do him down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-14098697424283357722015-02-25T06:37:10.539+11:002015-02-25T06:37:10.539+11:00I agree with CF in many respects. However, I have ...I agree with CF in many respects. However, I have a "red herring" anecdote about disclosing funding sources. In the distant past I performed some research for a government agency whose name did not want to be disclosed and said so explicitly in the contract. Ever the contrarian, I argued that the research performed was valuable and the rest of science needed to know about it. The agency agreed with the value but refused to allow publication for fear of disclosing any relationship between the agency and the research.(i.e., leaking). In the end we came to an agreement, the research was published ("censored" accordingly by the agency) with the source of funding sufficiently obscured, although it was still credited to federal funding (not the Dept of Agriculture, haha). How does that situation fit into the current discussion of disclosure and CoI? I am sure my tale is not unique, even today. Sorry about using "anonymous" but ... well, you'll just have to believe me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59146844135799810522015-02-25T06:22:26.890+11:002015-02-25T06:22:26.890+11:00Mike, it is very possible to do science on your ow...Mike, it is very possible to do science on your own time and unfunded by external sources. In fact I am looking forward to it in a few years when I "retire" and have time to do what I want when I want. Clearly, there are many amateur astronomers who self-fund their own telescopes and execute very successful science programs .. and then go to work in the morning at the office doing something more mundane. If you had asked me in the 1970s whether serious astronomy could be done by amateurs I would have replied unlikely except for variable stars. Now with easily affordable large telescopes (you can even rent remotely operated ones in Africa for a song) and very affordable state-of-the-art imaging and computer systems astronomy science projects once costing millions can be done for thousands. That's well within the reach of many. Unfunded and serious science is also found in many other fields by those unaffiliated with some "professional institution." However, I do agree that investigators publishing their science results should disclose their funding sources, even if it is Joe Blow's own bank account. Jonathan Gradienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-62510867644286886762015-02-25T06:12:46.887+11:002015-02-25T06:12:46.887+11:00His Lordship will doubtless express sympathy over ...His Lordship will doubtless express sympathy over unauthorised use of an email address:<br /><br />"Could you then explain how this claim originated from a message sent from your email address? "<br /><br />http://www.monbiot.com/2007/10/03/did-lord-monckton-fabricate-a-claim-on-his-wikipedia-page/Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-42141664943594751362015-02-25T03:43:18.285+11:002015-02-25T03:43:18.285+11:00Its impossible to do science in your own time and ...Its impossible to do science in your own time and unfunded. If you cite an institutional affiliation then you have to cite the funding that allows you to work there. Even if the work is unrelated to your grant funding, its not done in a vacuum. Funding agencies and institutions where extramural funded investigators work require you to state the percent effort expended on individual projects. However work that appears outside of the limits of the funded work is often stimulated by funded studies; no grant proposal can foresee the future direction of funded research. So all the papers an investigator publishes should cite relevant funding sources and those studies should be described in progress reports to funding agencies. However I doubt that much will come of Soon's transgressions, probably no more than a slap on the wrist, unless he continues to skirt conflict of interest guidelines of journals.Mike Pollardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47187642424226755102015-02-25T02:40:07.272+11:002015-02-25T02:40:07.272+11:00Sou: Non disclosure contract
" Publicity: Sm...Sou: Non disclosure contract<br /><br />" Publicity: Smithstonian shall not publish and utilize the name or otherwise identify Southern Company Services ." ( hat tip to the rabit )<br /><br />Sounds like they all have something to hide.rumleyfipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03346146988416679423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-43795802956858774912015-02-25T01:57:21.754+11:002015-02-25T01:57:21.754+11:00I'm thinking of how 'they' framed Juli...I'm thinking of how 'they' framed Julian Assange.<br />It IS greeted by endless thuggery from the thugs - I am sorry to have to say I actually found the news first on the bully's site.cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-14564393160788973402015-02-25T01:39:40.292+11:002015-02-25T01:39:40.292+11:00Michael Mann & Penn State & paedophile &am...Michael Mann & Penn State & paedophile & climate science<br /><br />Pachauri & IPCC & sexual predator & climate science<br /><br /><i>Alleged</i> sexual predator, of course, not that that will matter. I can understand why Pachauri resigned. Taking one for the team, basically.Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-40529681995547185202015-02-25T01:25:57.949+11:002015-02-25T01:25:57.949+11:00Shit happens. If true (and we should remember he d...Shit happens. If true (and we should remember he denies wrong doing), it reflects on Pachauri as a person. There is no way it reflects on the science. We should be sure to state that loud and clear.<br /><br />Oh, and BTW, Real Climate has just posted an article: <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=18185" rel="nofollow">'The Soon Fallacy'</a>. John Russell (@JohnRussell40)https://twitter.com/JohnRussell40noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-3605745888337063222015-02-25T01:20:24.762+11:002015-02-25T01:20:24.762+11:00He's going to fight a sexual harrassment suit,...He's going to fight a sexual harrassment suit, which, without wishing to minimise or pre-judge, seems on the milder end of the scale - unwanted texts and so forth - and he denies all charges, claiming he's been the victim of a malicious hacker.<br /><br />He will, of course, be guilty until shown to be guilty in certain quarters...Phil Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744659873337514317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2585303142627578242015-02-25T01:08:09.009+11:002015-02-25T01:08:09.009+11:00Really Bad News.
This will be greeted by endless...Really Bad News. <br /><br />This will be greeted by endless crowing from the deniarati, even though it has nothing whatsoever to do with the overwhelming scientific case for global warming. palindromnoreply@blogger.com