tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post6819705493651454095..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: A decade of extremes from WMO and WUWTSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-88956234158636047352013-07-09T14:48:52.450+10:002013-07-09T14:48:52.450+10:00dbstealey aka Smokey the guard dog lives in an unr...dbstealey aka Smokey the guard dog lives in an unreality of his own fantasy world, where black is white and up is down and anything goes if Smokey says so.<br /><br />You <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/03/u-n-world-meteorological-organization-report-pans-the-idea-that-severe-weather-and-severe-weather-deaths-can-be-linked-to-climate-change/#comment-1353870" rel="nofollow">wrote</a>:<br /><i>In the past WUWT has censored whole threads by removing them when they have been demonstrated to be egregiously scientifically and/or analytically incorrect</i><br /><br />Smokey quoted you writing that <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/03/u-n-world-meteorological-organization-report-pans-the-idea-that-severe-weather-and-severe-weather-deaths-can-be-linked-to-climate-change/#comment-1354699" rel="nofollow">here</a> and again <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/03/u-n-world-meteorological-organization-report-pans-the-idea-that-severe-weather-and-severe-weather-deaths-can-be-linked-to-climate-change/#comment-1355629" rel="nofollow">here</a>, when he challenged you by <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/03/u-n-world-meteorological-organization-report-pans-the-idea-that-severe-weather-and-severe-weather-deaths-can-be-linked-to-climate-change/#comment-1355629" rel="nofollow">writing this</a>:<br /><br /><i>So I challenged Bernard J. to show us which threads have been “censored whole”. But rather than accepting the challenge, Bernard has apparently skedaddled</i><br /><br />You responded with the wonderful example of <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/an-interesting-issue-with-ice-core-data-2/" rel="nofollow">Anthony deleting</a> the "<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/6H83F9g4X" rel="nofollow">Greenland ice sheet is less than 650 years old</a>" article, and Smokey turned around and said - Oh that doesn't count, or words to that effect. He wrote:<br /><br /><i>Also, your webcite link does not prove what you were alleging, which was specifically “censorship”. Anthony has closed out articles and threads before, and they have nothing to do with your belief system, or with “censorship”.</i><br /><br />Compare that with what Smokey quoted <b>twice </b>from your original comment and asked you for evidence:<br /><br /><i>In the past WUWT has censored whole threads <b>by removing them when they have been demonstrated to be egregiously scientifically and/or analytically incorrect</b></i><br /><br />Smokey has to be Anthony's staunchest supporter, unquestioningly doing his bidding - even though he doesn't agree with Anthony when he says the greenhouse effect is real.<br /><br />Of the regulars, Smokey probably has the biggest brain dysfunction and the least self-awareness. And that's saying something given the sort of audience WUWT caters to. <br /><br />Smokey is a near perfect example of illogicality and a compartmentalised brain. He can hold umpteen conflicting factoids in his head and spout them at the same time, apparently oblivious to any conflict.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-75044400071695826752013-07-09T14:22:05.810+10:002013-07-09T14:22:05.810+10:00Yep, it's back. I'm not sure if it was ju...Yep, it's back. I'm not sure if it was just sidelined for Watts, as you suggest, or retrieved because they cottoned on to me webciting every comment, but Smokey/DBS is pouting rather a lot.<br /><br />It's still fun! ;-)<br /><br /><br />Bernard J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-26221792069367218352013-07-09T13:11:29.583+10:002013-07-09T13:11:29.583+10:00Looks as if it's back again, Bernard J.
Afte...Looks as if it's back again, Bernard J. <br /><br />After I fell foul of Anthony first time around (because I corrected something he wrote about Victoria, Australia), my posts stopped showing up as being in moderation. They disappeared as soon as I clicked "post comment". I think were sent to a special queue for Anthony to decide about. That way he could snark about "anonymous cowards" etc and make sure his guard dogs barked at me.<br /><br />Anthony knows his guard dogs understand stuff even less than he does and wouldn't know when to bark unless blew his dog whistle :DSouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-26270065393466887502013-07-09T12:57:22.989+10:002013-07-09T12:57:22.989+10:00What do you know? That comment that I just screen...What do you know? That comment that I just screen-captured was moderated away - presto! It only took a few minutes!<br /><br />Still, I had my image URL on the clipboard, and some quick posting and backing-up later, their moderating-away is documented on the thread:<br /><br />http://www.webcitation.org/6HyOMmu85<br /><br />This is fun!<br /><br /><br />Bernard J.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-44241623621507906352013-07-09T12:53:56.752+10:002013-07-09T12:53:56.752+10:00Bernard, I think any post containing the word &quo...Bernard, I think any post containing the word "Anthony" is held in moderation for Anthony.<br /><br />You might be honoured with a response from the great man himself :)Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67808578334638336422013-07-09T12:50:37.618+10:002013-07-09T12:50:37.618+10:00As a supplementary to the previous post, I followe...As a supplementary to the previous post, I followed up on my comment at WUWT but fell into moderation, probably because of too many links. I have a poor record of being released from moderation, so the post is captured here:<br /><br />http://postimg.org/image/az0v0o0u1/<br /><br /><br />Bernard J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65037190489178508692013-07-09T12:22:49.167+10:002013-07-09T12:22:49.167+10:00Smokey/dbstealey got a bit narky that I called WTF...Smokey/dbstealey got a bit narky that I called WTFUWT on their censoring. I doubt that he will have the guts to delete my response, but just in case it's the last comment archived here:<br /><br />http://www.webcitation.org/6HyM6Qpyy<br /><br /><br />Bernard J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-88917556491183855632013-07-05T06:49:04.088+10:002013-07-05T06:49:04.088+10:00Talking of no follow up on erroneous posts, we wil...Talking of no follow up on erroneous posts, we will soon have the first anniversary of the famous Watts et al (2012) post. Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-37191100654053973602013-07-04T18:51:50.488+10:002013-07-04T18:51:50.488+10:00All credit to Sou, then. She does, so we don't...All credit to Sou, then. She does, so we don't have to. And I for one do not envy her that, although I am not afraid to get my knuckles dirty :-)BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-64456453970034660702013-07-04T18:37:20.011+10:002013-07-04T18:37:20.011+10:00Ah, always a right mosh pit to be on such days the...Ah, always a right mosh pit to be on such days the printer doesn't work etc :)cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-62508052056716133312013-07-04T18:19:24.634+10:002013-07-04T18:19:24.634+10:00Bare-knuckle boxing. Good for the reflexes, and go...Bare-knuckle boxing. Good for the reflexes, and good for the soul...<br /><br />;-)BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-37093531280834065872013-07-04T18:18:32.505+10:002013-07-04T18:18:32.505+10:00That's an interesting idea, Bernard, but surel...That's an interesting idea, Bernard, but surely the results were... unsurprising?<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />(I won't repeat here my best guess for the dominant words in the recent Deltoid thread). BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-60029091884889719782013-07-04T14:08:34.686+10:002013-07-04T14:08:34.686+10:00Indeed, Bernard J.
We're all still waiting in...<a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2013/06/wuwt-policy-violation-by-clueless.html" rel="nofollow">Indeed</a>, Bernard J.<br /><br />We're all still waiting in breathless anticipation for Anthony to post his follow up to <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2013/04/anthony-watts-is-extremely-hot-on-china.html" rel="nofollow">his article on how UHI has raised the surface temperatures in China's remote hinterland</a>.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74259924877606460342013-07-04T13:55:56.224+10:002013-07-04T13:55:56.224+10:00Get a load of the hypocrisy of Smokey/dbstealey wh...Get a load of the hypocrisy of Smokey/dbstealey <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/03/u-n-world-meteorological-organization-report-pans-the-idea-that-severe-weather-and-severe-weather-deaths-can-be-linked-to-climate-change/#comment-1353610" rel="nofollow">who says</a>:<br /><br />“<i> jai mitchell,<br /><br />Your cherry-picking ignores the fact that 16 – 17 years is the time necessary to determine if there is global warming. Your short time frame disregards <a href="http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1997/plot/rss/from:1997.9/trend" rel="nofollow">that requirement</a></i><br /><br />Cherry-pick 1: - Selecting the RSS lower tropospheric data<br />Cherry-pick 2: Starting the time period at 1997<br />Cherry-pick 3: Starting the trend-line at 1997.9<br /><br />Smokey/dbstealey is a mendacious propagandist.<br /><br /><br />Bernard J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-56492143844207542582013-07-04T13:41:54.360+10:002013-07-04T13:41:54.360+10:00I posted on that WTFUTW thread the comment below. ...I posted <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/03/u-n-world-meteorological-organization-report-pans-the-idea-that-severe-weather-and-severe-weather-deaths-can-be-linked-to-climate-change/#comment-1353870" rel="nofollow">on that WTFUTW thread</a> the comment below. I will be curious to see if it's censored...<br /><br /><br />Bernard J.<br /><br />---------------<br /><br />Smokey <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/03/u-n-world-meteorological-organization-report-pans-the-idea-that-severe-weather-and-severe-weather-deaths-can-be-linked-to-climate-change/#comment-1353817" rel="nofollow"> said </a>:<br /><br />"<i>Finally, this site has won the internet’s “Best Science & Technology” Weblog Award — for the third year running — for a very good reason: it does not censor skeptics’ comments like the un-named blogs you mentioned.</i>"<br /><br />1) Winning a blog award is an indication of how many readers a blog has, and not of the scientific quality of the blog<br /><br />2) WUWT often censors comments from people who support the professional, <i>expert</i> understanding of science rather than the pseudoscience that is favoured here.<br /><br />3) Allowing the comments of sceptics who are very disproportionately uneducated, uninformed, and/or ideologically motivated is no recommendation.<br /><br />4) In the past WUWT has censored whole threads by removing them when they have been demonstrated to be egregiously scientifically and/or analytically incorrect, and by failing to post promised followings-up of previous threads where the content has been demonstrated to be egregiously scientifically and/or analytically incorrect.<br /><br />Just saying.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74786379879693141832013-07-04T13:28:35.690+10:002013-07-04T13:28:35.690+10:00Yes, but Deltoid is bloodsport...Yes, but Deltoid is bloodsport...Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-35434522689884254262013-07-04T12:57:42.626+10:002013-07-04T12:57:42.626+10:00In the past I've used tag clouds to look at th...In the past I've used tag clouds to look at the comments at WTFUWT. I've tended to use:<br /><br />http://tagcrowd.com/<br /><br />because it doesn't fall over when Java's not up-to-date, but there are others:<br /><br />www.wordle.net/<br />www.tagul.com/<br />www.tagxedo.com/<br /><br />Watts' comments sometimes produce very revealing clouds, as also happens if one run's a tag clouder over some of the recent Deltoid pages...<br /><br /><br />Beranrd J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-27145252726926897662013-07-04T08:57:57.069+10:002013-07-04T08:57:57.069+10:00It's much better to have a computer read WUWT ...It's much better to have a computer read WUWT and its commentariat than any sane humanAnthony Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02513872551156179165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-62184925700707492302013-07-04T07:18:45.656+10:002013-07-04T07:18:45.656+10:00Now there's an idea.Now there's an idea. Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-84204218705309595942013-07-04T05:55:41.348+10:002013-07-04T05:55:41.348+10:00It would be interesting to run a text sentiment an...It would be interesting to run a text sentiment analyzer against the WUWT comment streams on a regular basis. They do seem to have a consistent tone of scorn, mockery and disdain, with very little positive affect at all.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12083190014669867976noreply@blogger.com