tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post6760759194068313711..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Climate disinformer Patrick Moore talks to deniers at the GWPFSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-13561469638311564142015-10-20T07:53:16.737+11:002015-10-20T07:53:16.737+11:00I think the " CO2 is plantfood " meme, e...I think the " CO2 is plantfood " meme, especially in terms of " dangerously low CO2 levels " is quite annoying.<br />From The New Phytologist Vol. 188/3 2010 : "The author found that corn and sugar cane (now known to be C4plants) could draw down [CO2] below 10 ppm, whereasthe other species (now known to be C3 plants) could only draw down [CO2] between 60 and 145 ppm."<br />And from Tolbert et al PNAS 1995 : " The CO2 compensation point (CO2 F) is defined as the CO2 concentration at which net CO2 fixation is zero at a given 02 level and temperature The CO2 F is 50 ppm CO2 for an isolated C3 plant in a closed chamber at 21% 02 and 20°C."<br />I personally thik this is quite interesting, though everybody else usually is bored.<br />andreas dobbertinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2035807408335372092015-10-19T23:13:43.703+11:002015-10-19T23:13:43.703+11:00Yeah. And he whined that my article was "ad h...Yeah. And he whined that my article was "ad homming" him. Go figure!Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-50393733682729338632015-10-19T23:07:38.458+11:002015-10-19T23:07:38.458+11:00Some of Patrick Moore's recent tweets... to ca...Some of Patrick Moore's recent tweets... to call him a hack would be a vicious slap in the face to hacks.<br /><br /><i>The "greens" have become a collective mental illness. Rejection of knowledge, adoption of blind faith in apocalypse.<br /><br />I have more hope the tide will turn now that before. The facts speak for themselves, but propaganda is powerful.<br /><br />China contributing most to CO2 fertilization of food crops and forests. Aiming for 800 ppm.<br /><br />Sure do wish reality still mattered to the global warming cult </i>Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-57103879032737812352015-10-18T16:54:13.415+11:002015-10-18T16:54:13.415+11:00In particular, Dr. Moore cannot tolerate the world...In particular, Dr. Moore cannot tolerate the world as it is. He needs to live in a world of fantasies. To be more specific, Dr. Moore wants to keep us helpless and afraid. While none of us need to be so fearful, we are. These fears make it difficult for us to change the direction in which our society is headed. This is why is critical that we talk about how it doesn't really matter why he wants to take control of a nation and suck it dry. Whether it's due to a misplaced faith in anarchism, bribes paid to Dr. Moore by ridiculous radicals, or nagging from some of the headlong malingerers in his entourage, the fact remains that that's what Dr. Moore wants. What I want, in contrast, is to notify you that he wants to inculcate the hermeneutics of suspicion in otherwise open-minded people. It gets better: He actually believes that he is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose. I guess no one's ever told him that when I observe his compadres' behavior, I can't help but recall the proverbial expression, “monkey see, monkey do”. That's because, like Dr. Moore, they all want to grasp at straws, trying to find increasingly furacious ways to trade facts for fantasy, truth for myths, academics for collective socialization, and individual thinking for group manipulation.Bryan Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-10570285145464378432015-10-17T10:26:13.618+11:002015-10-17T10:26:13.618+11:00Thanks for the link to Richard Alley's talk - ...Thanks for the link to Richard Alley's talk - earned a ton. Fascinating stuff, and I recommend others to view if you haven't.Joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67137825826439857162015-10-17T09:52:18.413+11:002015-10-17T09:52:18.413+11:00At least we know right from the horse's mouth ...At least we know right from the horse's mouth that anyone who actually listens to him and believes what he is saying we must be an idiot. <br /><br />And apparently he didn't even realize that's what he was saying.jgnfldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-15140970737712313782015-10-17T08:30:32.937+11:002015-10-17T08:30:32.937+11:00Again the deniers provide good evidence for global...Again the deniers provide good evidence for global warming! By harping on about how water vapour is the greenhouse gas with the most effect, they are confirming the greenhouse effect will increase as water vapour increases.<br /><br />Sigh. It is incredible that "sane" people will get up in public and knowingly tell lies.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-78037709667030279252015-10-17T07:36:05.795+11:002015-10-17T07:36:05.795+11:00A smarter shill than Moore would have called the i...A smarter shill than Moore would have called the interviewer's bluff by saying something like "Well, OK, I'm sure this will taste awful but it's safe" and only bailing if the host actually produced a container of RoundUp. But Moore flinched and left that excellent filmed hole in his 'credibility' as a result.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-37591300568345619122015-10-16T22:51:06.070+11:002015-10-16T22:51:06.070+11:00No Millicent. Patrick seems to think that only wat...No Millicent. Patrick seems to think that only water is a greenhouse gas, not CO2. Though his Gish gallop was long and tortuous I might have that wrong.<br /><br />His argument is that CO2 is dinosaur food, or what eats CO2 is dinosaur food, which is probably why deniosaurs crave it so much.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-27865861907017390282015-10-16T22:37:57.094+11:002015-10-16T22:37:57.094+11:00"The basis of his claim was that without CO2 ..."The basis of his claim was that without CO2 the planet would be dead, therefore the more we have the better."<br /><br />So today at WUWT CO2 is a GHG. That's odd because a few days ago at WUWT it wasn't a GHG.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-44704093494520157222015-10-16T21:03:48.506+11:002015-10-16T21:03:48.506+11:00That link is dead for me at least. Here is one tha...That link is dead for me at least. Here is one that works. <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM<br /><br />I have always loved the contrast back and forth between "it's totally safe" and "I'm not an idiot" here. How one can maintain and assert such contradictory attitudes and statements at the very same moment in time without any embarrassment is downright incredible. Pathological even.jgnfldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31700984670224075432015-10-16T18:36:18.693+11:002015-10-16T18:36:18.693+11:00I'd forgotten about that, Layzej. What a nutte...I'd forgotten about that, Layzej. What a nutter.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-91175174734905284362015-10-16T18:25:43.959+11:002015-10-16T18:25:43.959+11:00Patric Moore is "not stupid" enough to d...Patric Moore is "not stupid" enough to drink his own poison: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/03/lobbyist-claims-monsanto-weed-killer-is-safe-to-drink-then-bolts-when-tv-host-offers-him-a-glass/<br /><br />But knows it's safe for you to drink a whole quart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWM_PgnoAtALayzejhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11346550512734519728noreply@blogger.com