tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post627430034505051516..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Laid bare: the sociopathology of climate science denialSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53236203863085170902015-11-29T15:23:28.840+11:002015-11-29T15:23:28.840+11:00I've been thinking about the responses of the ...I've been thinking about the responses of the Denialati to the Paris bombings, and how they might affect the COP21 talks, and I'm wondering if in fact the attacks might actually focus the minds of the delegates on the risks and dangers of climate disruption, both from direct climate impacts and the knock-on political effects - as was a part of the Syrian mess.<br /><br />Whatever the influence, I do hope that there is a substantial shift from the previous international political malaise. This is probably the last chance to do anything now that won't just be an effectively <i>ad hoc</i> mop-up after the fact...Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59173121609202755582015-11-26T22:50:36.415+11:002015-11-26T22:50:36.415+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.0^0https://www.blogger.com/profile/09590270703159793784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-30602422897193791702015-11-23T16:29:28.909+11:002015-11-23T16:29:28.909+11:00It wasn't a diagnosis so much as illustrative ...It wasn't a diagnosis so much as <a href="https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=sociopathology&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5" rel="nofollow">illustrative examples</a>.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-54875057622530580312015-11-22T23:52:55.564+11:002015-11-22T23:52:55.564+11:00John Jaeger appears to be saying that human carbon...John Jaeger appears to be saying that human carbon dioxide emissions are not adding to the atmospheric CO2 concentration over time, and that "natural" CO2 is responsible for the upward trend of the Keeling curve - with a bit of magical help from water vapour.<br /><br />I'd love, <i>love</i>, <i><b>love</b></i> for him to produce the data that support his nonsensical statement!<br /><br />I'm embarrassed to belong to the same species as people this stupid, or this mendacious. And if he's a poe, I'm still embarrassed that there is a proportion of the population so stupid/mendacious that the fact exists of difficulty in discerning between poe and poe-target...Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-14441691745626007102015-11-22T22:05:20.886+11:002015-11-22T22:05:20.886+11:00That's an interesting analysis of the war conc...That's an interesting analysis of the war concerning a power which maintained itself while greatly outnumbered for several years while the US sat on the sidelines due to isolationists.jgnfldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-35429535048459988502015-11-22T20:42:42.087+11:002015-11-22T20:42:42.087+11:00The pseudo-science word salad is hilarious.
I am...The pseudo-science word salad is hilarious. <br /><br />I am trying to get my head round how you "add water vapour" to a graph showing the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. <br /><br />This sort of hand-wavy allusion gets accepted at places like WUWT. Tends not to work in the real world. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38685797504163780862015-11-22T19:05:10.154+11:002015-11-22T19:05:10.154+11:00Millicent I will think you will find that all the ...Millicent I will think you will find that all the British had in WWII was the element of surprise.<br />It consisted of going BOO from behind a tree! Until the Americans arrived. BertBert from Elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2824399330375526372015-11-22T13:20:39.442+11:002015-11-22T13:20:39.442+11:00Actually, I thought it was a pretty good example o...Actually, I thought it was a pretty good example of where Denial is at - as their beloved 'pause' evaporates the rusted-on extremists simply double down on the same tired old 'it's a plot' nonsense. And pseudo-science word salad, of course...billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31601322801179717942015-11-22T12:55:27.751+11:002015-11-22T12:55:27.751+11:00John Jaeger's comment has been shifted to a mo...<i>John Jaeger's comment has been shifted to a more appropriate location. It can now be found at <a href="http://www.hotwhopper.com/HotWhoppery15.php#jaeger221115" rel="nofollow">the HotWhoppery.</a>.</i><br /><br /><b>Sou</b> Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-52254913836339434762015-11-22T11:46:19.878+11:002015-11-22T11:46:19.878+11:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-54844110264066045822015-11-17T15:08:48.116+11:002015-11-17T15:08:48.116+11:00And never forget. The countries in the world with...And never forget. The countries in the world with the highest numbers of births per woman are those where the biggest problem is violence. A couple of years ago those countries were Congo and Afghanistan. Presumably we'll see other countries join them in this not very desirable 1st rank in the world. adeladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19313039221472051682015-11-17T14:33:33.759+11:002015-11-17T14:33:33.759+11:00The correct term is 'sociopathy'.The correct term is 'sociopathy'.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082981049565549600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65610744639416543912015-11-17T10:17:54.800+11:002015-11-17T10:17:54.800+11:00Thanks MM. Sorry about the comment and link. I did...Thanks MM. Sorry about the comment and link. I didn't check it out and should have. <br /><br />There is no place for that sort of nonsense here at HW - now deleted.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-13093391377813897252015-11-17T09:48:26.939+11:002015-11-17T09:48:26.939+11:00For a while there I thought you were a genuine con...For a while there I thought you were a genuine contributor. Maybe a bit off the wall at times, but yet... though now, I can see you were just a concern troll all along. Sad that it comes to that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-43113967558740362012015-11-17T06:11:29.818+11:002015-11-17T06:11:29.818+11:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.looʞ oɹezhttp://arkansaswildlifephotography.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4253093663388569052015-11-17T03:14:18.329+11:002015-11-17T03:14:18.329+11:00Monty Python's army recruitment sketch comes t...Monty Python's army recruitment sketch comes to mind:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOehDqygaj8palindromnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-75846663886469914202015-11-17T03:08:34.149+11:002015-11-17T03:08:34.149+11:00I am still trying to figure out how, in Spencer...I am still trying to figure out how, in Spencer's imagination, gun control gets transformed into disarming the military. Does he think the British Army fights its enemies using bad language and legal writs?Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-40252302353073600112015-11-17T02:25:45.498+11:002015-11-17T02:25:45.498+11:00"stability decreases exponentially with the i..."stability decreases exponentially with the increase in numbers of people in poverty and disadvantage."<br /><br />That's it in a nutshell. The price their labour commands (when they can find work at all) goes through the floor, even as the price of food goes through the roof. More people facing more and more desperate circumstances.<br /><br />If Europe cannot cope with refugees from Syria - a country of 21 million - then our politicians need to think about what they will do when a country the size of Egypt (84 million and rising) disintegrates.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-53967690886004605532015-11-17T02:19:03.789+11:002015-11-17T02:19:03.789+11:00Let's see, we have the Cornwall Alliance, the ...Let's see, we have the Cornwall Alliance, the intelligent-design thing, that weird Godwin episode from last year:<br /><br />http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/02/20/climate-change-denier-roy-spencer-says-people-who-use-word-denier-are-global-warming-nazis<br /><br />.... and now this.<br /><br />Spencer's image as a Brave Maverick Scientist Unafraid to Speak the Objective Truth In The Face Of A Massive Politically-Inspired Conspiracy looks to have lost every last shred of a fig-leaf of plausibility, except among fellow RWNJ-types. You don't see Schmidt or Mann or any of those other guys writing spittle-flecked tweets about world events that are only peripherally related to climate.palindromnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-61864009208343917972015-11-17T00:44:09.541+11:002015-11-17T00:44:09.541+11:00"civil discontent that erupted in early 2011...."civil discontent that erupted in early 2011. Within a month, however, armed groups took the leading role in anti-government action."<br /><br />Not exactly. March 2011, regime shot at civil demonstrations.<br />July 2011, a number of army officers defected and began the FSA. Of course, at that moment the resistance was armed resistance.<br />There was already a lot of 'sleeping violence' following the destruction of Hama in 1982, too, which Assad awakened instantly in March '11.cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67899496649331889062015-11-16T22:58:12.796+11:002015-11-16T22:58:12.796+11:00No. By the second half of 2011, social order had ...No. By the second half of 2011, social order had been weakened, if not broken down in many areas of Syria due to to conflict-related factors. These included armed uprisings in some parts (notably the north west), the relocation of army resources nearer areas of conflict, and local religious groups and gangs (eg the smugglers that operated in many areas near the Turkish border) taking up arms. <br /><br />Also remember that Da'esh initially infiltrated the jazeera as a benign, non-threatening entity, setting up small charitable centers in towns, while they sussed out potential allies and enemies. Raqqa was only taken over by rebels in early 2013; Da'esh didn't oust the other rebel groups and Syrian Army forces, and finally take sole control of Raqqa until August 2013. Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06028952897277444016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-57733963781568096652015-11-16T21:14:58.618+11:002015-11-16T21:14:58.618+11:00I've written about the transcript now - with s...I've written about the transcript now - with some quotes, and a contrast with the other Richard Tol:<br /><br /><a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2015/11/will-real-richard-tol-please-stand-up.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2015/11/will-real-richard-tol-please-stand-up.html</a>Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-75519043391782569422015-11-16T20:32:14.580+11:002015-11-16T20:32:14.580+11:00+1 Millicent.
And on a space- and resource-constr...+1 Millicent.<br /><br />And on a space- and resource-constrained planet, that stability decreases <i>exponentially</i> with the increase in numbers of people in poverty and disadvantage.Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-17195945575845594452015-11-16T20:31:48.110+11:002015-11-16T20:31:48.110+11:00Transcript ...
In Conversation: Roger Harrabin and...Transcript ...<br />In Conversation: Roger Harrabin and Richard Tol<br />http://www.carbonbrief.org/in-conversation-roger-harrabin-and-richard-tolEverett F Sargenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00201577558036010680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-12810599071031925582015-11-16T20:22:38.803+11:002015-11-16T20:22:38.803+11:00Society 'to be hit by climate change'
http...Society 'to be hit by climate change'<br />http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34800829<br /><br />Meh. Tol sez "We're Doomed" so it's BAU all the way down...<br /><br />"He says a rise of 4C would be undesirable but manageable for Europe and all nations rich enough to cope with the costs of adaptation. The best way of combating climate change, he told BBC News, was to maximise economic growth."<br /><br />Ridley sez "Plant Food"Everett F Sargenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00201577558036010680noreply@blogger.com