tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post6092072176602685506..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Black carbon in the Arctic as viewed by WUWT - plus more about soot and methaneSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-10905454429099720332013-08-15T02:04:30.293+10:002013-08-15T02:04:30.293+10:00Victor:
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/uscivilli...Victor:<br />http://civilliberty.about.com/od/uscivillibertie1/p/libertarians.htm<br />There are many different libertarians.<br /><br />I especially like the term "paleolibertarians" :-)<br /><br />MarcoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59515067735073583062013-08-15T00:49:53.590+10:002013-08-15T00:49:53.590+10:00I wonder how many people calling themselves libert...I wonder how many people calling themselves libertarians are actually libertarians. <br /><br />They mainly talk about lower taxes, sometimes about their love for guns. <br /><br />You do not hear them talking as much about about stopping government power abuse, torture, eavesdropping etc., nor about smaller policy and military. One would expect a real libertarian to find the latter just as important.Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-20845726599534565012013-08-14T23:20:34.178+10:002013-08-14T23:20:34.178+10:00Lol :)
Yeah - I do sometimes (often) sacrifice pr...Lol :)<br /><br />Yeah - I do sometimes (often) sacrifice precision for volume:D<br /><br />The terminology Altemeyer uses is a tad confusing. Towards the end you'll find that he distinguishes between "High Value Right Wing Authoritarians" (ie the suckers or the Authoritarian followers) and the Authoritarian Leaders (dirt-bags, scum-buckets - using his terminology).<br /><br />I see the more extreme of the US-style Libertarians fitting very well into the category of high value RWA's. They despise (and are often unreasonably fearful of) legitimate authority but are very willing to follow anyone who can suck them in by legitimately, or probably more often pretending to espouse what they value - eg gun ownership, the law but only as long as it applies to everyone but the RWAs, "free speech" to mouth whatever bigoted views they hold at whatever cost etc etc. From what I've read they are more likely than most to be conspiracy theorists too. (The "what I've read" includes comments from people who declare themselves as Libertarians.)<br /><br />Don't want to over-generalise though. I'd expect Libertarians would include a spectrum of people, not just the extremists. Eg those who just want to keep a rein on the size of government, which doesn't mean they fear authority.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-28707854105266825132013-08-14T22:09:00.264+10:002013-08-14T22:09:00.264+10:00I would probably simply have substituted "Alt...I would probably simply have substituted "Altemayer talks of the RWA's ...", with "Altemayer talks of the authoritarians ...".<br /><br />A little less precise, but understandable to anyone. I love your blog, but I have not read and memorized every post you wrote. <br /><br />Still an interesting book by Altemayer. Just scanning it, I wonder how it is possible to have both libertarians and authoritarians in one party. Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-26739188506753849922013-08-14T21:29:15.916+10:002013-08-14T21:29:15.916+10:00I've added another link higher up - because I ...I've added another link higher up - because I realise the link was just on the 8% Dismissives comment further down. <br /><br />The top bit is probably what you were referring to.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-82440301070842547272013-08-14T21:24:09.354+10:002013-08-14T21:24:09.354+10:00Sorry Victor. RWA = Right Wing Authoritarian. Ho...Sorry Victor. RWA = Right Wing Authoritarian. However, you don't have to download the pdf. In the above, I put a <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2013/03/fooling-bottom-8-oh-its-just-another.html#RWA" rel="nofollow">link to the relevant section</a> of the blog article I wrote some time ago, which describes the RWA's and 8% Dismissives. I'll try to make that clearer in future. <br /><br />I thought that a link to my earlier article was a good alternative to both downloading Altemeyers' booklet and re-defining it every time I referred to it. Also, I didn't want to make the article overly long because I tend to be longwinded enough as it is:) Anyway, here are their attributes to save everyone having to click through:<br /><br /><b>Right Wing Authoritarians</b>: Together with The Doubtful, the small group of Dismissives exhibit at least some characteristics in common with Bob Altemeyer's Right Wing Authoritarians. (The "Doubtful" and "Dismissives" refer to the <a href="http://environment.yale.edu/climate-communication/article/Six-Americas-September-2012/" rel="nofollow">Yale Group "Six Americas" survey report</a>. The Doubtful represent 13% of respondents and the Dismissives 8% of respondents). <br /><br />- Illogical thinking<br /><br />- Highly compartmentalised minds<br /><br />- Double standards<br /><br />- Hypocrisy<br /><br />- Blindness to themselves<br /><br />- A profound ethnocentrism<br /><br />- Dogmatism: The Authoritarians last ditch defense.<br /><br />Dismissives (8%) are "sure" global warming is not happening despite all the evidence that it is happening. Doubtfuls (13%) think it might be happening but think "it's natural", again despite all the evidence to the contrary. This demonstrates illogical thinking as well as dogmatism (no amount of evidence will persuade them otherwise).<br /><br />The Dismissives (8%) are the least informed of the lot and prone to conspiracy ideation (global warming is a hoax). Only 10% of this 8% acknowledge the fact that "most scientists think global warming is happening". In fact 17% of the 8% even say they think "most scientists think global warming is not happening". This group has "highly compartmentalised minds" and "profound ethnocentrism" - only mixing with those who share their distorted view of the world.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-49192787627532282892013-08-14T20:50:49.167+10:002013-08-14T20:50:49.167+10:00The post would be better readable if you would exp...The post would be better readable if you would explain the acronym RWA, so that not everyone if forces to download the pdf.Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.com