tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post4819679575133751472..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: No, Anthony Watts, this global warming is not "natural"Souhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47340650262143077262014-07-03T03:20:16.146+10:002014-07-03T03:20:16.146+10:00You're right, Steve. (That's how I first c...You're right, Steve. (That's how I first came across the paper you cited. Both are of interest.)Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-56243824266743253792014-07-03T02:56:26.592+10:002014-07-03T02:56:26.592+10:00Catalin's link refers to the gyre (and the AMO...Catalin's link refers to the gyre (and the AMOC, although not by name).Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-5288808515301220102014-07-02T16:13:24.410+10:002014-07-02T16:13:24.410+10:00Note, if Monckton were too ill to check a graph, h...Note, if Monckton were too ill to check a graph, he was clearly well enough to write two lengthy articles and forty pages of supporting material. The man is worried about his reputation. He need not worry. His reputation was in the gutter years ago.Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-32421187839750581512014-07-02T14:06:08.462+10:002014-07-02T14:06:08.462+10:00Steve, did I miss something? Catalin spoke of the ...Steve, did I miss something? Catalin spoke of the gulf stream, which was what I responded to.<br /><br />Thanks for the link. Oddly enough I nearly mentioned that one myself till I realised it was about something different to what Catalin wrote :)Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-72672822179311835472014-07-02T13:49:04.246+10:002014-07-02T13:49:04.246+10:00Monkers today:
And those who think I should have ...Monkers today:<br /><i><br />And those who think I should have “corrected” a graph published without my knowledge alongside an article of mine would assist me if they were to let me know, after looking at the page in question, what corrections they would have made. The graphs did not purport to be the IPCC’s graphs and were not labeled as such: they were plainly schematics (as was the 1990 IPCC graph); and they seem to have been drawn with the intention of demonstrating that the 1990 graph showed the medieval warm period and the little ice age and no 20th-century uptick, while the 2001 graph showed no MWP or LIA but did show a 20th-century uptick (which the squidging of the graph to make it fit the page had the effect of minimizing).<br /><br />I did get the date of the 1990 graph wrong by five years because the graph was sent to me by an eminent professor who had inadvertently misdated it, and I was not able to verify it directly because the IPCC reports in question were not then online and I was a very sick man, confined to barracks and quite unable even to travel to the nearest village, let alone to the nearest university library 150 miles away. It was not until two years later that I was cured, and by then the world had moved on.<br /><br />The fuss over these graphs seems to have been circulated by a particular individual with the intention of doing harm to my reputation, and not with the intention of making any legitimate or serious scientific point. But, if there is some scientific significance to whatever is thought to be wrong with the two graphs in the form in which they appeared in the Telegraph, then I should be interested to be let in on the secret of what the significance is.<br /></i><br /><br />None of it's his fault!Captain Flashheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-49251939868460598492014-07-02T13:05:33.870+10:002014-07-02T13:05:33.870+10:00If Bullshit was music Monckton would be a brass ba...If Bullshit was music Monckton would be a brass band.SPMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-73397444790296984592014-07-02T12:15:39.522+10:002014-07-02T12:15:39.522+10:00Consensus is irrelevant....unless it's a conse...Consensus is irrelevant....unless it's a consensus of farmers.Jpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67374634299066303422014-07-02T11:57:50.484+10:002014-07-02T11:57:50.484+10:00Catmando : regarding Harrow, I think Monckton'...Catmando : regarding Harrow, I think Monckton's frequent use of the term "bed-wetter" reveals a lot. Some dormitory trauma lies behind that, I'll be bound.Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65572210743320117152014-07-02T10:19:04.581+10:002014-07-02T10:19:04.581+10:00Sou, the Gulf Stream and the AMOC aren't the s...Sou, the Gulf Stream and the AMOC aren't the same thing. The former is a western boundary current driven by Coriolis force. The recent attention has been to a measured slowing of the AMOC, which is something to worry about. See e.g. this new <a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2014GL060420/abstract" rel="nofollow">paper</a>.<br /><br />OT: Are you familiar with the <a href="http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html" rel="nofollow">Crackpot Index</a> developed by John Baez? It could come in handy...Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19677925584444507762014-07-02T05:07:36.685+10:002014-07-02T05:07:36.685+10:00Yes, it's fascinating to read. Monckton threat...Yes, it's fascinating to read. Monckton threatens to sue or get fired anyone who disagrees with him but I haven't seen him threaten an ally before. I don't know if Anthony Watts and Jo Nova will ever be allies again after this. Though there's always that powerful uniting force against a common foe - in their case the common foe is science.<br /><br />It's also interesting that so many deniers are now agreeing "it's not the sun, stupid".<br /><br />There's another thread about that article. In fact two of them, sort of. The second one is a compilation of Jo and David's articles on Force X. I added updated links to the WUWT archived thread in both of them.<br /><br />I'll be writing more on this too.<br /><br />http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/06/denier-weirdness-magical-mysterious.html<br /><br />http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/06/nova-and-evans-present-forcex-it-would.html<br /><br />Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2683274140638887432014-07-02T04:28:41.698+10:002014-07-02T04:28:41.698+10:00It's dog eat dog again. Remember when Sencer a...It's dog eat dog again. Remember when Sencer and Eschenbach had a spat. Monckton spits his dummy quite often, threatens libel (has he ever gone to court?), complains to people's employers (usual response is go away OWTTE) and nothing is ever heard about it again. I wonder if Moncktn learnt his technique while being picked on by the older boys at Harrow.Catmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-85465066365566883542014-07-02T04:16:05.351+10:002014-07-02T04:16:05.351+10:00off topic so please delete
The recent noise made ...off topic so please delete<br /><br />The recent noise made by watts about Mann and his (justifiable in my view) defamation cases (Mann overboard! ‘robust debate’ edition) has now hit a problem. <br />tony's mate monkton is threatening Leif, Wilis and others on the thread A Cool Question, Answered?Posted on June 28, 2014<br /><br />How will tony keep peace in the ranks?<br /><br />a quote-<br />For my part, I am referring Mr Svalgaard’s long list of malicious comments about Dr Evans (but not about me: I give as good as I get) to his university, which will know best how to handle the matter, for there is a rather delicate aspect that I am not at liberty to discuss here. The university will most certainly realize that the do-nothing option is not an option. The libel is too grave and too persistent. My lawyers are looking at it tomorrow to see whether malice is present, in which case the damages would triple, to say nothing of the costs. Their corresponding lawyers in the U.S. will be giving advice on whether Dr Evans would count in U.S. law as a “public figure”,<br /><br />Mr Eschenbach, who seems suddenly prone to claim knowledge of various matters that seem beyond his competence, has suggested that in the British system of justice truth is not a defense against a libel claim. In fact it is the standard defense.<br />thefordprefecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07210786222021457913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-63347946021110874382014-07-01T20:36:37.486+10:002014-07-01T20:36:37.486+10:00'Cause farmers, you know, they just "unde...'Cause farmers, you know, they just "understand" the land they live on... http://www.history.com/topics/dust-bowl<br /><br />Rational TrollAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-55663080110559705352014-07-01T19:01:01.882+10:002014-07-01T19:01:01.882+10:00That's a good point, Catalin. This paper sugge...That's a good point, Catalin. <a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2013GL058636/abstract" rel="nofollow">This paper</a> suggests the gulf stream isn't slowing down, yet. ScienceDaily <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140303211257.htm" rel="nofollow">article here.</a>Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-82494722153344712962014-07-01T18:41:18.739+10:002014-07-01T18:41:18.739+10:00The other problem with having the opinion of Swedi...The other problem with having the opinion of Swedish farmers about their local weather trump the competent analysis of climate scientists about global climate is that the temperatures in Sweden (less than 1% of world) are currently influenced more by Gulf-stream changes rather than global AGW trends. That will also create a huge problem for them if AGW will make the Gulf-stream even weaker in the future - http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2004/0415gyre.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481575470736580966noreply@blogger.com