tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post4214009071165801350..comments2024-02-12T15:25:44.028+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Watching the global thermometer - year to date GISTemp with June 2015Souhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-84894694630643442882015-07-20T10:16:55.174+10:002015-07-20T10:16:55.174+10:00It was nothing to do with me, Nick. I have it on g...It was nothing to do with me, Nick. I have it on good authority it was GISS people reading your article at Moyhu :)Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-88006787061285548662015-07-20T08:00:20.934+10:002015-07-20T08:00:20.934+10:00Thanks, Sou. I think the acknowledgement counts fo...Thanks, Sou. I think the acknowledgement counts for you too. It does make quite a difference.Nick Stokeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377413236983002873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-11122716987507219072015-07-20T06:55:40.868+10:002015-07-20T06:55:40.868+10:00They are a bit slow on the uptake, as usual :DThey are a bit slow on the uptake, as usual :DSouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-85143834538165838302015-07-20T06:24:06.679+10:002015-07-20T06:24:06.679+10:00Just wait for the reaction from our little Conspir...Just wait for the reaction from our little Conspiracy Theorists! :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-91853293746271392482015-07-20T05:37:21.988+10:002015-07-20T05:37:21.988+10:00Thanks David. Rather than correct this article, I&...Thanks David. Rather than correct this article, I've <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2015/07/watching-global-thermometer-year-to_20.html" rel="nofollow">written a new one</a>.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4161382732880223312015-07-20T04:04:30.051+10:002015-07-20T04:04:30.051+10:00I did contact them, and now they've fixed it a...I did contact them, and now they've fixed it and thanked you, Nick :)<br /><br />http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/<br /><br />(h/t David Sanger)Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19151651177856581702015-07-20T02:39:20.484+10:002015-07-20T02:39:20.484+10:00GISS just announced updated figures since the foun...GISS just announced <a href="http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/" rel="nofollow">updated figures </a>since the found an error. June now warmest in their record, +0.80Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12083190014669867976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-63574115168489102592015-07-19T12:39:30.568+10:002015-07-19T12:39:30.568+10:00Tamino on ERSSTv4 and Bob Tisdale<a href="https://tamino.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/new-giss-data/" rel="nofollow">Tamino</a> on ERSSTv4 and Bob TisdalePGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-46216285284857544632015-07-17T20:26:48.819+10:002015-07-17T20:26:48.819+10:00There are several R IDEs. Besides R-Studio, Revolu...There are several R IDEs. Besides R-Studio, Revolution R has a free IDE here http://www.revolutionanalytics.com/revolution-r-open (which is compatible with R-Studio as well, btw). There are a number of others. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_%28programming_language%29#Interfaces All can use any R package found on CRAN including ggplot2. <br /><br />Some, like Revolution R Enterprise, do have their own additional functions to increase capabilities. But the normal R user doesn't need them normally unless they are into big data. jgnfldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18345702872292499039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-44712940599115439022015-07-17T09:58:33.774+10:002015-07-17T09:58:33.774+10:00Not according to GISTemp (see above). 2014 is stil...Not according to GISTemp (see above). 2014 is still the hottest year so far, but probably not for long.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-69329724280287396812015-07-17T09:57:38.350+10:002015-07-17T09:57:38.350+10:00I can do that if you want me to. Maybe next time.I can do that if you want me to. Maybe next time.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-7188967905191115692015-07-17T09:45:30.427+10:002015-07-17T09:45:30.427+10:00Thanks for the tips, folks. Looks like ggplot2 wil...Thanks for the tips, folks. Looks like ggplot2 will work with R-Studio too. Downloading this stuff now...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39376832650075022422015-07-17T09:25:00.263+10:002015-07-17T09:25:00.263+10:00In the new version, 2014 is no longer the hottest ...In the new version, 2014 is no longer the hottest year: we're back to 2010 now.KAPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11189506171267750391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-84369125580054308122015-07-17T05:13:07.912+10:002015-07-17T05:13:07.912+10:00I use "R Studio" for editor and IDE. It ...I use "R Studio" for editor and IDE. It is pretty good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-55530545152749901222015-07-17T02:49:27.030+10:002015-07-17T02:49:27.030+10:00I use R for various things all the time. If you ar...I use R for various things all the time. If you are a professional programmer it should drive you crazy for the first few weeks but the graphics alone are worth the aggravation. Be sure to install the ggplot2 package, of the the best of the plotting packages. And get a good R dedicated text editor or IDE. Best of luckjrkrideauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869979887929067657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-78896967970970883362015-07-17T02:46:44.504+10:002015-07-17T02:46:44.504+10:00I use R for various things all the time. If you ar...I use R for various things all the time. If you are a professional programmer it should drive you crazy for the first few weeks but the graphics alone are worth the aggravation. Be sure to install the ggplot2 package, of the the best of the plotting packages. And get a good R dedicated text editor or IDE. Best of luckjrkrideauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869979887929067657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59165809945576544802015-07-16T22:16:40.719+10:002015-07-16T22:16:40.719+10:00Sou, a very minor crow to pluck with you: shouldn&...Sou, a very minor crow to pluck with you: shouldn't the difference be inverted in the graph? I believe you have graphed old - new, when the other way around would be more intuitive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47273299309299549302015-07-16T21:00:39.531+10:002015-07-16T21:00:39.531+10:00Sou,
No, I haven't contacted GISS. I've f...Sou,<br /> No, I haven't contacted GISS. I've found something a bit similar in TempLS, though with more irregularity earlier, which I'm trying to work out.<br /> <br /> The low value in May with GISS 3b, when as you say SST went up, and NOAA LO went way up, may be part of the story. But it is the March-April transition that stands out.<br /> Nick Stokeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377413236983002873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-24248245006808162202015-07-16T19:21:06.102+10:002015-07-16T19:21:06.102+10:00A lot of people were thinking that May was too low...A lot of people were thinking that May was too low, compared to other datasets, so you could be right there Nick. Have you asked anyone at GISS about it?<br /><br /><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3vgLnArj2aXc1l5ZERiNm91bDQ/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">Here's a spreadsheet</a> for anyone interested. It shows the monthly anomalies as at June and the monthly anomalies as at July, and the difference - July minus June. I've only included years from 1990 onwards.<br /><br />In recent years the adjustment was relatively high (around 0.06 on average), but not for April or May this year. May should probably have gone up as much as it did using ERSST v3b. With v4 some of us would have expected it to go up quite a bit more, with <a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2015/07/a-mixed-up-month-behind-times-and.html#sst" rel="nofollow">sea surface temps showing the hottest May on record</a>. And April should possibly have been higher too. It didn't change.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-45390044021266402332015-07-16T18:23:42.512+10:002015-07-16T18:23:42.512+10:00Sou,
GISS posted a discussion of the change here....Sou,<br /> GISS posted a discussion of the change <a href="http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/updates_v3/ersst4vs3b/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. The difference plot shows a pretty steady recent difference of 0.06°C; v4 higher. But a puzzle is that April and May were quite exceptional, graph <a href="http://www.moyhu.blogspot.com.au/2015/07/giss-new-version-up-by-003-in-june.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I think they may have made some mistake in the update. Those two months look like old values (April was unchanged). If they have, then 2015 will be back in front.<br />Nick Stokeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377413236983002873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-50459405076463973692015-07-16T16:12:34.180+10:002015-07-16T16:12:34.180+10:00Another change that has slipped below the radar (a...Another change that has slipped below the radar (as far as I can tell anyway) is NOAA replaced GHCN-M version 3.2.2 with version 3.3.0 in June 2015. It changed the ranking of at least one of the years I believe.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-86228371524842794222015-07-16T15:29:32.917+10:002015-07-16T15:29:32.917+10:00Thanks, Sou.
It's amazing how many years bea...Thanks, Sou. <br /><br />It's amazing how many years beat 1998 now, nine by my count. But I thought warming stopped then? Yet it is now barely in the top ten, very likely to be relegated to the second division of warm years by 2015. <br /><br />I demand a recount, an audit! (Coming soon to blog near you.)Andy Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16313161977123410684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-71888300604931821832015-07-16T14:58:22.206+10:002015-07-16T14:58:22.206+10:00Done, Andy. 1998 is now a thick dashed purple line...Done, Andy. 1998 is now a thick dashed purple line.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-32206450762235446902015-07-16T13:32:24.876+10:002015-07-16T13:32:24.876+10:00Andy, I was caught twice by the running mean in th...Andy, I was caught twice by the running mean in the graph when we were speaking about monthly means in the comments.<br /><br />It makes sense to plot the values that way though, because it shows at a glance how each year has trended (and how this year is trending) toward the annual anomaly.Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-17667744449328470542015-07-16T13:27:49.123+10:002015-07-16T13:27:49.123+10:00Aha! Sorry.
Is it possible for you to highlight 1...Aha! Sorry.<br /><br />Is it possible for you to highlight 1998? It's a little hard for my poor old eyes to distinguish.Andy Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16313161977123410684noreply@blogger.com