tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post3576772380644403696..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Anatomy of Tim Ball's conspiratorial pseudo-science at WUWTSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-28280490952496475862016-09-06T05:09:53.999+10:002016-09-06T05:09:53.999+10:00Here is another graph faux pas that you might like...Here is another graph faux pas that you might like. A while back, I tried to find data-based conclusions on CO2 and atmosphere in a science paper by T. Ball, and found only this one: Canadian Journal of Agricultural Economics 42(2): pages 212-214 (July 1994), where he says CO2 and climate are unrelated, and the proof is (quoted from the journal article): “Atmospheric carbon dioxide readings plummeted at Mauna Loa in the last two years. Why?” People interested in actual scientific claims will check the graphs of CO2 at the station he refers to and look for that plummet. Wow, impressive. I am going to step away to get a magnifying glass.<br />Dan L. Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04528464939324131548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-15632839802181043972016-09-06T05:05:41.330+10:002016-09-06T05:05:41.330+10:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dan L. Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04528464939324131548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-55313341825809008502016-08-03T11:56:51.687+10:002016-08-03T11:56:51.687+10:00suspicion
Why does my mobile automatically 'c...suspicion<br /><br />Why does my mobile automatically 'correct' properly spelled words but miss obvious errors? I blame climate scientists.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-46476517198285358772016-08-03T11:53:21.697+10:002016-08-03T11:53:21.697+10:00I have a strong svguspicion that Ball and others a...I have a strong svguspicion that Ball and others are showing what happens when dementia interacts with incompetence or motivated denial.<br /><br />Keep an eye on Richard Lindzen in coming years.Magmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89673495533632696722016-08-03T10:01:39.171+10:002016-08-03T10:01:39.171+10:00Well observed, Sou..this bit of Ball is indeed of ...Well observed, Sou..this bit of Ball is indeed of key importance to understanding him:<br /><br />"This article examines the entire Holocene and illustrates the history that influenced the studies. There are two distinct parts to the studies, the pre and post Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The former is a genuine scientific struggle with issues of terminology and reconstruction, and the latter a scientific struggle to impose a political perspective regardless of the evidence. Because of the damage done to climatology by the proponents of anthropogenic global warming (AGW), both parts require explanation."<br /><br />Ball's framing is so revealing of his personal self -obliviousness.<br />The date he contrives to contort climate science into a pre and post IPCC framing is the date he stopped learning.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09537772941984056434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-22383824757244698832016-08-03T06:11:41.179+10:002016-08-03T06:11:41.179+10:00Yes, like the episode of Happy Days - when the Fon...Yes, like the episode of Happy Days - when the Fonz could not physically say he was "wrong"<br /><br />Laughable - they act worse than petulant children Tadaaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736188830660481871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-64615526277158876352016-08-03T04:50:52.810+10:002016-08-03T04:50:52.810+10:00You just gotta love the way McIntyre will do every...You just gotta love the way McIntyre will do everything in his power to never admit he was even the teensiest bit wrong about anything. So what if there is a GISP2 dataset that goes all the way to 1987? The dataset that was used to produce the diagram in Tim Ball's article ends in 1855. End of story.<br /><br />McI's feeble protestations deserve no more than a simple two-word response, and the first word begins with...metzomagichttp://metzomagic.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-5218580970545907612016-08-02T17:59:47.009+10:002016-08-02T17:59:47.009+10:00Yes Millicent ... I use the analogy of King Canute...Yes Millicent ... I use the analogy of King Canute .. trying to stop the tide coming in ... with variation.<br />It's merely shooting each wave as it rolls up on the beach in the sure knowledge that, of course, another, then another, then another .... will follow. At least there is a certain satisfaction in killing one of them.Tony Bantonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67625575354240137892016-08-02T17:48:32.554+10:002016-08-02T17:48:32.554+10:00It is strange that Anthony (luminary that he is) p...It is strange that Anthony (luminary that he is) puts so much effort into the scrutiny of temperature data from genuine climate scientists while he allows such a massive error from Tim Ball to pass without comment. Its almost as if 'errors' that are sympathetic to the fossil fuel industry get a free pass.<br /><br />And the inmates lap it up.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-46686163861714578432016-08-02T17:39:39.433+10:002016-08-02T17:39:39.433+10:00The 'past' is not the same as 'history...The 'past' is not the same as 'history', although common usage confuses the two.<br /><br />But yeah, for me to insist on a pedantic definition of 'history' when Ball is pretending that temperatures on Greenland ice in 1855 are global temperatures in 2016 is rather missing the point.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-15851951134026316022016-08-02T17:36:46.983+10:002016-08-02T17:36:46.983+10:00Then remembered it's Ball's article ....
&...Then remembered it's Ball's article ....<br />"By that I mean “defend” a graph on here (as it is Ball’s “article” )."Tony Bantonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-70793176625645324502016-08-02T17:34:51.758+10:002016-08-02T17:34:51.758+10:00I commented on the thread, and yes there is a weal...I commented on the thread, and yes there is a wealth of stuff "wrong" with it (well ALL of it) - however I limited myself to supporting Nick Stokes in slapping them (Ball, Easterbrook and McIntyre) about the "graph". It's one of those that has taken mythical status amongst Deniers and this must be the 4th time I've chimed in with a link to Watts' own "disputed graphs" page about it.<br />In reply to more evasion from Easterbrook I've just posted this....<br />"Then don’t keep publishing a graph on here that states “modern warming period” at the point it hasn’t yet begun ….. for a place on Earth that is 10,000 ft amsl in the Arctic as EVIDENCE that the world as a whole is not warming.<br />As I said, that’s “deceptive” my friend (to put it kindly)."Tony Bantonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-18194772233173398772016-08-02T15:59:53.774+10:002016-08-02T15:59:53.774+10:00We do, but its "the data are" and "...We do, but its "the data are" and "the data is" again.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-58985451742829013302016-08-02T13:05:32.679+10:002016-08-02T13:05:32.679+10:00Hell may have froze over...
WUWT concedes 2016 as ...Hell may have froze over...<br />WUWT concedes 2016 as warmest year<br /><br />https://archive.is/TzWxB#selection-1761.0-1787.145Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07604184699513441116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-68114400182681218492016-08-02T12:03:58.999+10:002016-08-02T12:03:58.999+10:00Ah, that zombie chart rises! Tonight we're goi...Ah, <i>that</i> zombie chart rises! Tonight we're going to party like it's... 1855! It has a *<i>cough</i>* <a href="http://hot-topic.co.nz/cooling-gate-easterbrook-fakes-his-figures-hides-the-incline/#IDComment76894512" rel="nofollow">noble lineage</a>.<br /><br />Tim Ball is so delusional he might as well be working for the Trump campaign. What's truly remarkable (actually, it isn't, considering) is that none of the rusted-on credulous nongs at WUWT was the wit or recollection to go 'hang on, that bloody graph? We've been burned by this before...'billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89006096562045280292016-08-02T07:53:05.832+10:002016-08-02T07:53:05.832+10:00Written history of animals that interact with huma...Written history of animals that interact with humans covers a few thousand as well!<br /><br />But "history" is broader than written history; we talk of the history of the Earth for instance.numerobisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-69098123066408996552016-08-02T05:18:49.919+10:002016-08-02T05:18:49.919+10:00"Human history covers a few million years? Re..."Human history covers a few million years? Really? The first time we humans are thought to have evolved was around 200,000 years ago."<br /><br />Oh, a pet peeve of mine. Human history (and there really is no other kind because writing hasn't been practised by other species) covers a few thousand years. Most of our species' time on earth is prehistoric.Millicentnoreply@blogger.com