tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post2995594891274793414..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Roger Pielke Jr sez we can still afford more weather disasters and WUWT protests at all and sundrySouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-25676140145473037292013-12-16T01:52:38.658+11:002013-12-16T01:52:38.658+11:00Sou struggles with many things including her limit...Sou struggles with many things including her limited understanding of computer models by this embarrassingly ignorant post.Poptechhttp://www.populartechnology.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-71947356776019606792013-12-14T11:36:09.789+11:002013-12-14T11:36:09.789+11:00Pielke Jr states in his testimony on 11th December...Pielke Jr states in his testimony on 11th December<br />"The inability to detect and attribute increasing trends in the incidence of hurricanes, floods, tornadoes and drought does not mean that human-caused climate change is not real or of concern."<br />It does mean however that some activists, politicians, journalists, corporate and government agency representatives and even scientists who should know better have made claims that are unsupportable based on evidence and research. "<br />but consistently refuses to accept his own advice.<br /><br />This December 2 statement about tornadoes was a response to a NY Times oped from Richard Muller and was written by 6 tornado experts including Harold Brooks.<br />"...University of California, Berkeley, professor Richard Muller argued in a recent New York Times opinion piece that "the scientific evidence shows that strong to violent tornadoes have actually been decreasing for the past 58 years, and it is possible that the explanation lies with global warming."<br />The honest "truth" is that no one knows what effect global warming is having on tornado intensity. Tornado records are not accurate enough to tell whether tornado intensity has changed over time."<br />http://www.livescience.com/41632-the-truth-about-tornadoes.html<br /><br />Roger Pielke Jr states in his testimony (and this is a repeat of a claim that he has made previously before congress).<br />"Tornadoes in the US have not increased in frequency, intensity or normalized damage since 1950, and there is some evidence to suggest that they have actually declined."<br /><br />Here is Keith Kloor unloading on Dana Nuccitelli who correctly pointed out that Roger Pielke Jr is a serial misinformer on this subject.<br />http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collideascape/2013/12/04/dirty-art-character-assassination/#.UqujWPQQPwA<br /><br />So Harold Brooks was specifically asked about Pielke Jr's testimony<br />https://twitter.com/thingsbreak/statuses/408466481698312192<br /><br />Here is the twitter exchange<br />@ThingsBreak 5 Dec<br />Q for @hebrooks87: Would you testify "Tornadoes have not increased in frequency [or] intensity...since 1950" before Congress?<br />@hebrooks87 5 Dec<br />@thingsbreak No. I'd testify no evidence for incr./decr. tornado freq./intensity since '54. Likely incr variability in occurrence recently.<br />@thingsbreak 6 Dec<br />@hebrooks87 thx. One more Q? Would you claim "the most powerful tornadoes [F3-F5] have actually decreased over the past 50 years"?<br />@hebrooks87 6 Dec<br />@thingsbreak Not all all. The quality of the reports aren't sufficient to tell.<br /><br />In spite of the tornado experts disagreeing with him, Roger Pielke Jr continues to misinform the US Congress. <br /><br />Pielke Jr's schtick is to conflate the data for normalised losses with the physical evidence for extreme weather events. And the schtick extends to Australia. Here is an attack on the Australian Climate Commission's 2012/13 Angry Summer report and a response from Professor Will Steffen. <br />http://theconversation.com/weighing-the-toll-of-our-angry-summer-against-climate-change-12793#comment_132845<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />MikeHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-55797389782695169322013-12-14T05:22:31.921+11:002013-12-14T05:22:31.921+11:00Reading Pielke's papers is exactly how to find...Reading Pielke's papers is <b>exactly</b> how to find out what Pielke is trying to say. If Sou is struggling, it's because neither Pielke can be accused of consistency (see above). We should thank her for slogging through Pielke-land; I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.Dumb Scientisthttp://dumbscientist.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-3888363210933932962013-12-14T05:08:15.304+11:002013-12-14T05:08:15.304+11:00What do you mean, William? What part am I "st...What do you mean, William? What part am I "struggling" with? <br /><br />Roger seems to be struggling with his tornado trends. One minute he's got them rising the next they are declining. As for the cost of damage from weather events, I don't believe the normalised numbers tell the whole story.<br /><br />If Roger's going to take a shot at scientists he should cite examples. Taking a shot at the media is easy - there is always someone in the press saying the wrong thing. It seems unnecessary to point that out. He'd be better off having a shot at the Committee for downplaying the situation. Or taking a shot at some of the silliness in John Christy's testimony.<br /><br />Roger does indicate that as climate change kicks in the cost will rise. The Committee press release ignores that.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-57526858071132125022013-12-14T04:54:55.452+11:002013-12-14T04:54:55.452+11:00In talking about RP Jr, I think you're struggl...In talking about RP Jr, I think you're struggling. If you don't like what he's saying about trends, you should stop trying to read the entrails by the text of papers and look at the numbers.William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74292089292482267812013-12-14T02:09:50.732+11:002013-12-14T02:09:50.732+11:00"Talk about fools. Taking climate advice from..."Talk about fools. Taking climate advice from the Reinsurance Industry is like asking your barber if you need a haircut …<br />w."<br /><br />or asking your dentist if you need a filling ... Oh wait<br /><br />Louisehttp://andthentheresphysics.wordpress.com/2013/12/09/communicating-uncertainty/#comment-9475noreply@blogger.com