tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post2341670429097421429..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Judith Curry is unclear: is Jeb Bush too dumb?Souhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-22511953611694056652015-05-24T16:12:06.962+10:002015-05-24T16:12:06.962+10:00So you are a professor Palindrom. I think I have b...So you are a professor Palindrom. I think I have been reading your excellent comments since about 2007 if you're the same Palindrom who used to post in the climate section of Huffington Post.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-61095713351049124502015-05-24T12:53:07.704+10:002015-05-24T12:53:07.704+10:00Rattus -- As a soon-to-be emeritus professor (actu...Rattus -- As a soon-to-be emeritus professor (actually, my wife will divorce me if I retire, but it can't be that much longer), I resemble that remark.palindromnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-51723037216520680032015-05-23T23:46:58.049+10:002015-05-23T23:46:58.049+10:00JC cannot be embarrassed. Her self esteem is not r...JC cannot be embarrassed. Her self esteem is not reliant on acceptance from the scientific community. She's content being a fellow traveller of Seitz, Singer, Christie, Lawson and Screaming Lord Such. She's found her niche. Irrelevancy PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80317474150091182862015-05-23T12:40:02.056+10:002015-05-23T12:40:02.056+10:00Yes, she has gone emeritus w/o actually retiring. ...Yes, she has gone emeritus w/o actually retiring. Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-43970891674575410272015-05-23T12:39:07.228+10:002015-05-23T12:39:07.228+10:00Is she really that dumb?Is she really that dumb?Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-45131777952043580402015-05-23T06:11:34.463+10:002015-05-23T06:11:34.463+10:00While skimming comments elsewhere very rapidly, I ...While skimming comments elsewhere very rapidly, I thought I saw a comment saying JC had endorsed chem-trails. I wasn't the slightest bit surprised. <br /><br />Then I re-read it, and the comment had nothing to do with Curry believing in chem-trails. Still, if she did believe in that conspiracy theory I wouldn't have been surprised. It just seems a natural part of her personal journey.Dan Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12732509347477810998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-75424267198193281892015-05-23T01:43:59.635+10:002015-05-23T01:43:59.635+10:00Curry:
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And finally, why does it matter whether w...Curry:<br />”<br />And finally, why does it matter whether we attribute 100% or 90% or 50% of the increase in atm CO2 to humans?<br />”<br /><br />http://judithcurry.com/2015/05/06/quantifying-the-anthropogenic-contribution-to-atmospheric-co2/#comment-702513<br /><br />”<br />… the white part of the Italian flag is pretty big here.<br />”<br /><br />Blog-science at its best, folks!<br /><br />Scientific value = 0.<br /><br />Entertainment value = priceless.<br /><br /><br />The Very Reverend Jebediah Hypotenusenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-8245392528080392212015-05-23T01:16:18.472+10:002015-05-23T01:16:18.472+10:00Indeed that is a good GIF, I wonder what ones for ...Indeed that is a good GIF, I wonder what ones for Richard Lindzen, Pat Michaels, Roy Spencer and John Christy would behave like. Note that the latter has recently made some really crass statements to Congress, as heard in the video at the head of this from Climate Denial Crock of the Week: <br /><br /><a href="http://climatecrocks.com/2015/05/16/the-stupid-it-burneth-on-in-congress/#comments" rel="nofollow">The Stupid – It Burneth On in Congress</a><br /><br />Lionel Ahttp://lionels.orpheusweb.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-1380167079215336922015-05-23T00:58:27.162+10:002015-05-23T00:58:27.162+10:00You must admit she is consistent in that. Witness ...You must admit she is consistent in that. Witness the sort of rubbish she has fed government committees in the past.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-9227699720900289402015-05-23T00:54:40.828+10:002015-05-23T00:54:40.828+10:00Curry is effectively saying that she is not intere...Curry is effectively saying that she is not interested in giving accurate scientific information to politicians.<br /><br />Well, I guess nobody should be surprised...Lars Karlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158469980966810882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-10205827062485961922015-05-22T23:54:55.644+10:002015-05-22T23:54:55.644+10:00Exactly what I began thinking a couple of years ag...Exactly what I began thinking a couple of years ago. But this is climate revisionism and it is very effective.cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-84553732027050894572015-05-22T23:17:05.330+10:002015-05-22T23:17:05.330+10:00Curry's comments are so jaw-droppingly dumb th...Curry's comments are so jaw-droppingly dumb that I'm wondering if she's beginning to feel the effects of some kind of dementia. palindromnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-18632834885929045052015-05-22T19:15:42.738+10:002015-05-22T19:15:42.738+10:00I was thinking about historical documentaries earl...I was thinking about historical documentaries earlier. Come the next bicentennial, large parts of Sydney are going to be under water. Big Chief Budgie Smuggler is going to be famous for centuries, but not in quite the way he would have liked.Contrail Chooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-48842693163344173312015-05-22T19:08:04.034+10:002015-05-22T19:08:04.034+10:00When they make a movie about the ideologically-dri...When they make a movie about the ideologically-driven denial of climate science they should cast Glenn Close in the role of Judy.Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-13542062155738228732015-05-22T19:03:35.304+10:002015-05-22T19:03:35.304+10:00"How does she f**k this stuff up?"
It t..."<i>How does she f**k this stuff up?</i>"<br /><br />It takes a particular skill (or perhaps lack thereof...).<br /><br />Or absolute pig-headed selling of one's soul.Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-30754853843439033202015-05-22T18:59:58.404+10:002015-05-22T18:59:58.404+10:00Heh, I was just reading that very thread and think...Heh, I was just reading that very thread and thinking that it was perfect HotWhopper material. Curry's turned into one of those aunts who, just when you think they can't go any mor bananas, pulls a new trick from the hat.<br /><br />If she doesn't pull her head in you'll need a few more updates Sou.Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-52447290529533810052015-05-22T18:42:14.961+10:002015-05-22T18:42:14.961+10:00Eloquently put.Eloquently put.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09537772941984056434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-61255865910205204812015-05-22T17:50:29.730+10:002015-05-22T17:50:29.730+10:00Judith has recently been busy obfuscating the rise...Judith has recently been busy obfuscating the rise in CO2 as anthropogenic, implying that 50% natural is plausible.<br /><br />She asserts the same for CO2 as temperature; that natural variation *must* be >0, but without making any argument as to why.<br /><br /><i>I stated that the anthro contribution is arguably bounded somewhere between 50% (Freds number) and 100% (and I don’t think it is 100%, and I’m not exactly sure where it says 100% in the IPCC AR5; it doesn’t explicitly say this in SPM). so 20-30 ppm is well within range. Remind me again what we are arguing about? It would have been far more productive to argue why fred’s number for natural variability is too high, rather than to say he is completely wrong and natural variability contributes nothing. So if the contribution to natural variability is > 0, how do we go about assessing this? What implications does this have for our models of 21st century CO2 contributions? Now, can we get to the interesting questions that mass balance can’t address?</i><br /><br />http://judithcurry.com/2015/05/06/quantifying-the-anthropogenic-contribution-to-atmospheric-co2/#comment-703062<br /><br />Searching that thread for Judith’s other comments is very revealing, damning even.<br />verytallguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-44105030730881540882015-05-22T17:34:01.609+10:002015-05-22T17:34:01.609+10:00Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from rel...<i><b>Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion</b></i> - Rick Perry<br />Here's more <i>dumb as brick</i> comments from the long term Texas Gov and the next President of the United Nations..Ooops.<br />http://www.buzzfeed.com/parentwin/34-deliciously-ridiculous-rick-perry-quotes-c8nl#.nyarA3XMpPGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-24656240889830360172015-05-22T17:12:01.433+10:002015-05-22T17:12:01.433+10:00Curry seems to be laboring under the misconception...Curry seems to be laboring under the misconception that the 'two broad hypotheses' are not fundamental in the IPCC process...her article is frighteningly self-indulgent and oblivious.<br />Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09537772941984056434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-70176433521914187652015-05-22T16:54:56.102+10:002015-05-22T16:54:56.102+10:00"There are two broad hypotheses for recent cl...<i>"There are two broad hypotheses for recent climate change: human causes and natural causes"</i><br /><br />Well if so then the "natural cause" team has a heckofa lot of work to do to catch up. First they need to develop a physical, natural mechanism to account for 20th century warming (and stratospheric cooling). Then they need an additional physical explanation of how addition of teratons of CO2 does not cause these impacts. They'll also need to develop a track record of predictions of climate changes past and present. And they must do so with multiple different approaches which confirm and support each other. <br /><br />Oh and lastly it will need to be convincing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12083190014669867976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-36526862785108569412015-05-22T16:38:48.625+10:002015-05-22T16:38:48.625+10:00"JC comment: It should be obvious that climat..."JC comment: It should be obvious that climate change has multiple causes..." <br /><br />Yes, we know that, but anthropogenic climate change does not have multiple causes. It has one: anthropoids. That's why it's anthropogenic. FFS.<br /><br />"...although the political definition of climate change has attempted to define natural causes of climate change out of existence."<br /><br />No, it has not. It has just attempted to define "anthropogenic" as not being lumped under "natural" causes.*<br /><br />*Even though bipedal apes are a product of nature, so technically you could argue...Contrail Chooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-77628457003417230732015-05-22T16:27:43.844+10:002015-05-22T16:27:43.844+10:00John I think she's more of a Shakespeare group...John I think she's more of a Shakespeare groupie. She's long held an ambition to play <b>Petruchio</b> in <i>The Taming of the Shrew</i>.<br /><br />Enter JUDITH, KATHERINE, HORTENSIO and Servants<br /><br />JUDITH<br />Come, let’s continue on toward your father’s house. Good Lord, how bright and splendid is the moon tonight!<br />KATHERINE <br />The moon? You mean the sun! It is not nighttime now.<br />JUDITH<br />I say it’s the moon that shines so bright.<br />KATHERINE <br />I know it’s the moon that shines so bright.<br />JUDITH<br />Now, by my mother’s son, and that’s me, it will be moon or star or whatever I want before I’ll travel to your father’s house. (to servants) Go return our horses.— Constantly contradicted and contradicted, and nothing but contradicted!<br />HORTENSIO <br />(to KATHERINE) Say what Judith wants or we’ll never go.<br />KATHERINE <br />Since we’ve come this far, please—let’s continue on. And whatever it is—moon or sun or anything you like—if you want to call it a tea candle, that’s what it is as far as I’m concerned. From now on, I promise.<br />JUDITH<br />I say it’s the moon.<br />KATHERINE <br />I know it’s the moon.<br />JUDITH<br />Well, you’re a liar, then. It’s the blessed sun.<br />PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89295899184512981572015-05-22T16:25:10.740+10:002015-05-22T16:25:10.740+10:00"JC comment: It should be obvious that clima..."JC comment: It should be obvious that climate change has multiple causes, although the political definition of climate change has attempted to define natural causes of climate change out of existence."<br /><br />"Should be obvious"? Better than a presumption of obviousness, let's dedicate a working group to attribution...we'll call it WG1! Let's provide the 'obvious' so it's...obvious!<br /><br /> We'll give their findings to the political community. It's all us, because natural forcings sum to zip over the period.<br /><br />So, where is the basis of Curry's claim about political definition defining away the obvious, given that the political community has been shown what's 'obvious'?<br /><br />How does she f**k this stuff up?<br />Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09537772941984056434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-72502699746218789832015-05-22T15:05:34.229+10:002015-05-22T15:05:34.229+10:00Curry seems to have become a Salby groupie of late...Curry seems to have become a Salby groupie of late john byattnoreply@blogger.com