tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post2329457035904763930..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: The back storySouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38882557814691518112014-11-23T08:09:42.464+11:002014-11-23T08:09:42.464+11:00[chuckle] My most generous supposition is that it&...[chuckle] My most generous supposition is that it's damage control. But omnologos asks a more penetrating question than (s)he may realize. If they seriously thought Sou is a troll, the last thing they'd want to do is devote an entire blog to discussing HotWhopper. It will be interesting to see how long their experiment lasts.Brandon R. Gateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031044715994785956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-18894202868888357982014-11-23T07:08:55.584+11:002014-11-23T07:08:55.584+11:00Sue,
You're doing a great job. They don'...Sue,<br /><br />You're doing a great job. They don't like it up them. You keep sticking it up them! <br /><br />Keep it up girl.<br /><br />David RDavid Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13842200092197524120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2176818587355841662014-11-23T00:04:09.235+11:002014-11-23T00:04:09.235+11:00Jim wrote "I objected to attempts by advocate...Jim wrote "I objected to attempts by advocates of CO2 warming"<br /><br />What, you mean like scientists, using observations and physics. The 'advocate' of CO2 warming is reality. It's not like we get to choose what is reality and what is not (unless of course you are a denier, who seem to pick and choose how physical laws behave)<br /><br />and then he wrote "In response to my argument that instead of indoctrination, text books need to encourage more debate to foster critical scientific thinking"<br /><br />Yes, books do need to foster critical scientific thinking, but debate? Should books still be debating germ theory vs miasma theory, heliocentricism vs geocentrism, biology vs humorism. This is the same technique that ID promoters use to try and get their unscientific beliefs introduced http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach_the_Controversy<br /><br />Why is it that spuikers of pseudoscience insist on the same techniques? Also, what is the alternate global warming theory? It seems to be it just 'magically' happens.<br /><br />Climate science and the fact that CO2 causes warming is NOT indoctrination. In the micobiological sciences, is teaching the fact that bacteria and viruses cause disease, indoctrination? Is the teaching the fact that bacteria is composed of proteins, indoctrination? Is the teaching the fact that proteins is composed of atoms, indoctrination?<br /><br />Really Jim? I would call you an utter nutter, but that would be a disservice to utter nutters.DJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-3246454914885430202014-11-22T23:01:00.965+11:002014-11-22T23:01:00.965+11:00To whom are you replying?To whom are you replying?PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65305980562667820072014-11-22T22:13:30.275+11:002014-11-22T22:13:30.275+11:00Goodness, Edith, sweetie.....
You're as dumb a...Goodness, Edith, sweetie.....<br />You're as dumb as nine chickens, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-9133141711092126042014-11-22T21:55:00.733+11:002014-11-22T21:55:00.733+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-83425445105315903012014-11-22T21:41:05.227+11:002014-11-22T21:41:05.227+11:00"eminent physicist, polyglot classicist, priz..."eminent physicist, polyglot classicist, prize-winning botanist, hard-biting satirist, talented pianist, good dentist too" <br />Everett F Sargent you left out the important bit Real Estate Salesman.<br />I can now officially reveal that Jim Steele is actually Orly Taitz. <br />PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-90651966390398405252014-11-22T20:23:02.092+11:002014-11-22T20:23:02.092+11:00Hi Sou, i'm hoping for your perspective on th...Hi Sou, i'm hoping for your perspective on the announcement by china as per Joe romm's article in climate progress Nov 19 - "China to cap coal use by 2020", re its impact on the Australian media. I haven't seen it covered at all. Thanks, allanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-13355548397947880962014-11-22T17:44:10.216+11:002014-11-22T17:44:10.216+11:00Is this a case of the recursive furies? :-)Is this a case of the recursive furies? :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89371594944998736012014-11-22T14:54:19.501+11:002014-11-22T14:54:19.501+11:00Wonderful! Thanks for pointing it out.Wonderful! Thanks for pointing it out.palindromnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-64735104614991893602014-11-22T14:07:11.064+11:002014-11-22T14:07:11.064+11:00Like other people who try to earn a buck from thei...Like other people who try to earn a buck from their self-published pseudo-science 'books' - Jim has used WUWT for freebie promotion. He tends to move around a lot, usually doing a hard or soft sell of his book... plus - you can guess the rest.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-16231377313370105782014-11-22T13:55:36.818+11:002014-11-22T13:55:36.818+11:00Thanks. I forgot all about Google Scholar.
Jim St...Thanks. I forgot all about Google Scholar.<br /><br />Jim Steele's name popped up on a lot of blog postings on other Climate Change websites.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-88432727768529525052014-11-22T13:08:24.630+11:002014-11-22T13:08:24.630+11:00Jim Steele is pretty well nobody. You can read his...Jim Steele is pretty well nobody. You can read his bio here:<br />https://archive.today/N1i6V<br /><br />Because he managed a rural field office for some time (part time), he was with SF State Uni so he got to know a few ecologists. That strikes me as a very competitive field that has different streams - sort of like ideological differences in approach as far as I can make out. I've seen this sort of academic rivalry before in the social sciences, and it can get very nasty. It's almost ideologically based but more about methods and approaches, I think.<br /><br />It's not clear that Jim ever finished his masters. He's never published anything in the peer reviewed literature as far as I know. The only publication that I came across from his own website, apart from his vanity-published climate science denial book, is an article in some grass roots environmental newsletter (non-academic).<br /><br />http://www.yubawatershedinstitute.org/documents/treerings21.pdf<br /><br />So he's got no credentials on most of the topics on which he pontificates. I've been told that he is variously egged on in his harassment of academics (by their rivals) or discouraged (by scientists he's friends with who see what a fool he's making of himself).Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-37395229305751614922014-11-22T13:01:56.164+11:002014-11-22T13:01:56.164+11:00Who is this "Jim Steele" person anyway?
...Who is this "Jim Steele" person anyway?<br /><br />"eminent physicist, polyglot classicist, prize-winning botanist, hard-biting satirist, talented pianist, good dentist too"<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hillary_Boob<br /><br />You know, a real Nowhere ManEverett F Sargenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00201577558036010680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-12464226960792069992014-11-22T12:43:27.351+11:002014-11-22T12:43:27.351+11:00Bob Tisdale I know to be a nobody, just wondering ...Bob Tisdale I know to be a nobody, just wondering about this Jim Steele person - has anyone tried to verify his "credentials"?<br /><br />Just looking at the HotWopper blog Bob Tisdale has created, he appears to have taken the photo of the Coonabarabran fires from the HotWhopper blog.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-27398515808765884242014-11-22T12:09:16.415+11:002014-11-22T12:09:16.415+11:00Rhetorical deception? Who is this "Jim Steele...Rhetorical deception? Who is this "Jim Steele" person anyway?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38491277956900200552014-11-22T11:57:55.589+11:002014-11-22T11:57:55.589+11:00In semi-related news, just today on WUWT Bob Tisda...In semi-related news, just today on WUWT Bob Tisdale announced a new blog devoted entirely to ... doing something ... re: HotWhopper. First comment on the WUWT post:<br /><br />--------------------------<br /><br />omnologos<br />November 21, 2014 at 10:29 am<br /><br />Trolling a troll blog?<br /><br />Troll-ception! !!<br /><br />Bob don’t you have anything better to do? (Asking )<br /><br />--------------------------<br /><br />Need. More. Irony. Meters.<br />Brandon R. Gateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031044715994785956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89552318602775342422014-11-22T06:05:07.403+11:002014-11-22T06:05:07.403+11:00The pros in your corner tend to be people who whor...The pros in your corner tend to be people who whored what little reputation they had for the tobacco industry. Why is that?Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-20351020646931781092014-11-22T03:54:25.809+11:002014-11-22T03:54:25.809+11:00I'm still puzzled as to how the temperature da...I'm still puzzled as to how the temperature data can show "no warming for [x] years and [y] months" while simultaneously being falsified to show a warming trend. The cognitive dissonance, it burns!spilgardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-51314874774998043972014-11-22T03:45:59.141+11:002014-11-22T03:45:59.141+11:00I'm glad you think Lewandowski's in your c...I'm glad you think Lewandowski's in your corner Millicent, because I sure wouldn't want him in mine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47065560469317262642014-11-22T02:35:38.016+11:002014-11-22T02:35:38.016+11:00palindrom, I think you probably have seen this but...palindrom, I think you probably have seen this but, blowing my own trumpet, I covered Feynman misuse a while back and couldn't agree with you more.<br /><br />http://ingeniouspursuits.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/a-richard-feynman-primer-for-deniers.htmlCatmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313870265499015076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-27355653999324334352014-11-22T02:01:12.113+11:002014-11-22T02:01:12.113+11:00From the link:
The survey also found that Americ...From the link:<br /><br /> The survey also found that Americans support a broad range of policies that would help reduce or protect against global warming. For example, solid majorities “strongly” or “somewhat” support the following:<br /><br />Increasing funding for improvements to local roads, bridges and buildings to make them more resistant to extreme weather (83%)<br /><br />Funding more research into renewable energy sources such as solar and wind power (77%)<br /><br />Providing tax rebates to people who purchase energy-efficient vehicles or solar panels (77%)<br /><br />Regulating carbon dioxide as a pollutant (75%)<br /><br />Requiring electric utilities to produce at least 20% of their electricity from wind, solar, or other renewable energy sources, even if it costs the average household an extra $100 a year (62%)<br /><br />The study also found that 66% of Americans think global warming is happening (up three percentage points since November 2013), whereas only 16% say it is not happening (down 7 points since November 2013). Public understanding of the human causes, levels of worry, and risk perceptions, however, have held steady in recent years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80039845330922542372014-11-22T01:32:08.002+11:002014-11-22T01:32:08.002+11:00Two in three American support strict CO2 emissions...Two in three American support strict CO2 emissions standards for coal-powered plants, even if it likely means higher energy prices.<br /><br /> http://environment.yale.edu/climate-communication/article/americans-support-co2-limits-on-existing-coal-fired-power-plants/<br /><br />The public knows what you're trying to do.<br /><br />They know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-76994422808899352662014-11-22T01:05:05.305+11:002014-11-22T01:05:05.305+11:00As a quasi-physicist, the denialist trope that mak...As a quasi-physicist, the denialist trope that makes my blood boil most vigorously is the gross misuse of Feynman's warnings about bad science. I wish he could come back to life, step out from behind a movie poster like Marshall McLuhan in <i>Annie Hall</i>, and tell those folks a thing or two. After all, "nature cannot be fooled".palindromnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89213322934342608582014-11-22T01:01:32.348+11:002014-11-22T01:01:32.348+11:00Interestingly, and completely off topic of course,...Interestingly, and completely off topic of course, "flak" is short for <i>Fliegerabwehrkanone,</i>, which means "anti-aircraft gun" auf Deutsch.palindromnoreply@blogger.com