tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post2205710074220561860..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Christopher Monckton picks some cherries - plus RSS and the Southern HemisphereSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65695121001149662742014-12-05T11:04:28.143+11:002014-12-05T11:04:28.143+11:00Hear, hear!Hear, hear!Dumb Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11923980290855280697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4634833923969548412014-12-05T09:24:16.026+11:002014-12-05T09:24:16.026+11:00Cowtan and Way showed how to incorporate satellite...Cowtan and Way showed how to incorporate satellite data into the ground based temperature record. Here<br />http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/qj.2297/abstract<br /><br />They were attacked by the denialati blogs before the paper was even made open by contributions from Skeptical Science readers.<br /><br />http://www.skepticalscience.com/open_access_cw2013_update.html<br /><br />The evidence is getting that grim for our planet and for the denialists that even cherry picking data does not cut it anymore. Bert<br />Bert from elthamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-30394326103273405362014-12-05T00:11:12.386+11:002014-12-05T00:11:12.386+11:00The RSS website might have info on how they valida...The RSS website might have info on how they validated the satellite record.<br /><br />http://www.remss.com/measurements/upper-air-temperatureAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-91094050380629187072014-12-04T23:45:13.475+11:002014-12-04T23:45:13.475+11:00Just reading some of the comments made on WUWT abo...Just reading some of the comments made on WUWT about Carl Mears. Some are accusing him of not accepting or misunderstanding his own data! Plus going all Godwin about his frank use of the term "denialist".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-19069039094717712252014-12-04T23:38:11.913+11:002014-12-04T23:38:11.913+11:00I would love to see one of the internet deniers in...I would love to see one of the internet deniers insist on getting the "raw" data so they can check for tampering :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59540639172217159772014-12-04T23:32:14.574+11:002014-12-04T23:32:14.574+11:00Harry, I think it is a given that the graph is lik...Harry, I think it is a given that the graph is likely to be badly wrong through omission and misrepresentation. I just find it useful to remind myself every so often how far some people can stretch the facts in pursuit of confirming their biases. <br /><br />I was wondering if anyone has done a similar exercise of comparing the satellite records against the surface temperature records, but in a more objective way. That is using a global record and including all the major different datasets available.<br /><br />Andreas post below about the RSS record being inaccurate because of the NOAA-15 decaying orbit is interesting. As it comes from Roy Spencer you have to wonder whether he is torn by loyalty to his UAH record or the desire to see cooler recordings!<br /> Jammy Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360437479098314946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-17753923772100448162014-12-04T22:47:48.584+11:002014-12-04T22:47:48.584+11:00The difference between UAH and RSS temperatures is...The difference between UAH and RSS temperatures is mainly caused by the use of the old NOAA 15 satellite, which is sporting a decaying orbit, so RSS has to apply an estimated correction before getting any temperature data. This make the RSS dataset the most worked over set of all, any homogenisations of other sets pale beside it. Very inconsequential of the denier scene to hail RSS.<br />The whole article can be found here : http://www.drroyspencer.com/2011/07/on-the-divergence-between-the-uah-and-rss-global-temperature-records/ andreas dobbertinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-75105657812424963232014-12-04T21:26:09.541+11:002014-12-04T21:26:09.541+11:00If it is Steve Goddard, you can usually assume he ...If it is Steve Goddard, you can usually assume he is lying by omission or misrepresenting the truth somehow.<br /><br />It is usually difficult to see where he gets his results from as he does not always provide information. I suspect he fiddles with his charts until he gets the result he wants.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-18269796227440264772014-12-04T21:16:43.877+11:002014-12-04T21:16:43.877+11:00Sou you are on fire. You do a fantastic job. Thank...Sou you are on fire. You do a fantastic job. Thank you so much.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807913317731807617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65384626720202851762014-12-04T21:06:32.799+11:002014-12-04T21:06:32.799+11:00I found this article useful for putting a bit of p...<br />I found this article useful for putting a bit of perspective and clarity on the basis behind the "18 years 2 months" claim. Demonstrating the difference between RSS and other records, the fact RSS does not cover the poles and the difference between North and South hemispheres was all illuminating.<br /><br />I found the justification for cherry-picking the RSS dataset because RSS <i>"shows less warm bias than the GISS or UAH records."</i> very amusing. There is something so wrong about that statement that whenever I contemplate it I find it going out of focus and my brain goes a bit fuzzy. But I will work it out eventually.<br /><br />However, in the interests of true scepticism, I did follow the link to the archived article and found myself looking at a Steve Goddard graph which was part of the justification for saying RSS had less warm bias. At this point I caught myself wondering why I was wasting my life looking at this stuff but suppressing that feeling I tried to understand what he has done.<br /><br />As far as I can see he has compared GISS and RSS to the land based temperature record and said that RSS is the closest so it must be more accurate. I am not sure why he only compared with GISS and no other satellite record. Also I notice that for some reason he only used the US temperature records which I guess is another cherry pick.<br /><br />Has anybody else got any comments about this graph/method?<br /><br /> <br /><br />Jammy Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360437479098314946noreply@blogger.com