tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post1695634202282109201..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Australian Federal Elections - too close to call yet?Souhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-55226516698872196272016-07-06T23:29:15.681+10:002016-07-06T23:29:15.681+10:00Someone picked it up above, Malcolm Roberts is the...Someone picked it up above, Malcolm Roberts is the climate change denial advisor for this little group. He is some sort of retired mining person as far as I can tell.<br /><br />So One Nation are taking advantage of the free publicity the media are giving them. Just a matter of waiting until the group implodes again.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4234323268038462002016-07-06T23:23:49.642+10:002016-07-06T23:23:49.642+10:00bill "I also thoroughly enjoyed skipping ove...bill "I also thoroughly enjoyed skipping over Don Farrell when it came time to hold my nose and vote for the lesser of the 2 evils. "<br /><br />Me too. addledladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-28586549183832357612016-07-06T21:31:58.529+10:002016-07-06T21:31:58.529+10:00Also, while not a rabid anti vaxxer, definitely a ...Also, while not a rabid anti vaxxer, definitely a fellow traveller...<br /><br />https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30540710/pauline-hanson-would-think-twice-about-vaccinating-her-children-again-because-of-cancer-and-autism-risks/#page1<br /><br />Hey, Eric, got any thoughts on that?<br /><br />RAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-51380280131176847052016-07-06T19:51:03.088+10:002016-07-06T19:51:03.088+10:00Today Jo Nova was praising racist Pauline Hanson a...Today Jo Nova was praising racist Pauline Hanson and anti-semitic Malcolm Roberts. A few days ago she was campaigning for a candidate for the homophobic and racist Fred Nile party. Jo wears her bigotry on her sleeve.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-17219258161122252272016-07-06T18:10:04.439+10:002016-07-06T18:10:04.439+10:00I think this link tells you all you need to know:
...I think this link tells you all you need to know:<br />http://www.readfearn.com/2016/07/can-you-spot-the-difference-between-the-climate-policies-of-pauline-hanson-and-climate-science-denial-group-the-galileo-movement/Marconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65843426193793664082016-07-06T17:19:08.299+10:002016-07-06T17:19:08.299+10:00The One Nation Climate Change platform is here,
T...The One Nation Climate Change platform is here, <br />Twin-udders <br /> ..http://joannenova.com.au/2016/07/shocking-potential-senator-wants-to-teach-scientific-method-climate-scepticism-in-schools/Macknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-51741399765864807632016-07-05T02:08:30.116+10:002016-07-05T02:08:30.116+10:00I've been largely away from HW and similar blo...I've been largely away from HW and similar blogs as I've been tied up with work, and in some part in putting it to the politicians, but now that the dust is settling I can't help but make an observation that I've made several times, here and elsewhere...<br /><br />It's not actually compulsory to vote in Australia. It <i>is</i> compulsory to attend a voting booth and to place a piece of paper into a cardboard box or, failing that, to submit a ballot by post or at a mobile unit or at a pre-poll location. But actually voting - no, you don't have to do that!<br /><br />On other matters, the re-emergence of Pauline Hanson is a nightmare. That woman, for all her political rat cunning, is in my opinion as stupid as a bag of hammers and as bigotted as a KKK clansman. I can only hope though that she manages to stir up a Royal Commission into "climate science", because 1) if the terms of reference were in any way fiddled it would be so patently obvious that the whole enterprise would fail in a more spectacular fashion than a decision to vote on Brexit, and 2) if the terms of reference were reasonable there is no way that a Commission could come up with anything but a resounding concurrence of the consensus science, which would blow back in her face and those of the LNP*.<br /><br />And 3), if it was a conservative government that put together such an RC and they decided to stack the investigation with a partisan Commissioner, any resulting deviation from the science would be so blatantly conspicuous that the corruption of the process would render the LNP unelectable for a generation.<br /><br />*If Hanson somehow had a putative Labor government conduct a climate change RC the result would be a reaffirmation of the science, but then there'd be a decade of conspiracy thinking from the also-as-dense-as-a-bag-of-hammers bottom third of the Australian population that either won't accept the science, or is sufficiently malleable that they can be persuaded to disbeleive it. But then, I doubt that a Labor government would be silly enough to accept any insistence from Hanson for an RC...Bernard J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16299073166371273808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-92078657688817873082016-07-05T00:52:01.694+10:002016-07-05T00:52:01.694+10:00A postal vote can also allow a domineering partner...A postal vote can also allow a domineering partner to have a second vote at the expense of their other half.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-88390140800163917742016-07-04T23:57:30.082+10:002016-07-04T23:57:30.082+10:00The logic is flawed. If people decide not to vote,...The logic is flawed. If people decide not to vote, then they will never be counted. A marginal or swinging seat is that way because the voters have cancelled themselves out almost exactly; but they are still counted and they still voted. Safe seats are "safe" because a major proportion of voters always vote the same way; but they are still counted and they still voted.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-50017629155026440112016-07-04T20:40:50.489+10:002016-07-04T20:40:50.489+10:00Oh my stars not the Galileo Movement is it? They h...Oh my stars not the Galileo Movement is it? They have not produced any YouTube videos in years.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-86723321484756681612016-07-04T20:36:26.606+10:002016-07-04T20:36:26.606+10:00Well I guess until the counting resumes we will ha...Well I guess until the counting resumes we will have to put up with One Nation and their empty words on the telly. Does anyone know what their Climate Change platform is, the only things I can find are opposition to an ETS and a Royal Commission into, well, the climate system?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552461190113661645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38874103956481539952016-07-04T20:19:21.760+10:002016-07-04T20:19:21.760+10:00"The popularity of postal votes has increased..."The popularity of postal votes has increased considerably here in recent years and there has been several scandals related to their possible mis use."<br /><br />I feel uneasy about the widespread use of postal votes. You are not supposed to take a photo of your paper in a polling booth, because this could help bribery or intimidation, but with a postal vote there's no way to ensure it's secret.Bellmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04872924578152375407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-89516785979882572482016-07-04T17:53:11.412+10:002016-07-04T17:53:11.412+10:00Also, see Who Really Decides. About 3 million peop...Also, see <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-22/election-2016-who-really-decides/7395568" rel="nofollow">Who Really Decides</a>. About 3 million people, apparently, have a vote that actually counts. And then we could discuss, say, the population of Tasmanian electorates and the scale of their Senate representation.billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-50585038909203036792016-07-04T17:41:12.895+10:002016-07-04T17:41:12.895+10:00I thoroughly enjoyed not having to spend the usual...I thoroughly enjoyed not having to spend the usual ages sorting out the who of the obscuro Nazis, Nutters and Nonentities on the Senate list was the most toxic, or make sure the 3-digit numbers came out right, and gave up numbering around the mid-20s with considerable satisfaction!<br /><br />I also thoroughly enjoyed skipping over Don Farrell when it came time to hold my nose and vote for the lesser of the 2 evils. It didn't help, of course - he's safely ensconced - but if only more people on the other side of the fence had done the same for Cory Bernardi! If general voters ever reach that level of sophistication the world really will change...billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-10331724315114585412016-07-04T15:24:39.127+10:002016-07-04T15:24:39.127+10:00Pauline Hanson only got in because of the double d...Pauline Hanson only got in because of the double dissolution. Under a normal, half-senate election the quota for a senate position is double what it is in a DD. She apparently has a quota of 1.1, which would be 0.55 normally. In the past, most parties preference away from One Nation, but now the preferences have been returned to the voter to decide, that didn't happen.<br /><br />Both decisions were made by Malcolm Turnbull. I support the idea of being able to direct preferences when voting above the line (previously I've always voted below the line, even though that requires numbering 100+ boxes), but the election of PH may be an unintended consequence. MWSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-26226859332643468642016-07-04T14:24:23.927+10:002016-07-04T14:24:23.927+10:00Let's not forget Gillard achieved our highest ...Let's not forget Gillard achieved our highest ever rate of passing legislation (0.495 pieces per day) as the head of a minority government! If you can negotiate and convince people what you're doing is both what the voters expected and is genuinely in the genuine national - i.e. public - interest you can make a hung parliament work. But those criteria are going to be a major hindrance to the LNP, they know it, and they're angry. Oh, and they've let the nutters in worse than before, which could lead to all sorts of crankish deals. Pray for a ALP / Greens / NXT parliament tacitly supported by Wilkie and McGowan, I say!...billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-86567709069002668722016-07-04T13:26:56.726+10:002016-07-04T13:26:56.726+10:00One Nation will only form a balance of power if th...One Nation will only form a balance of power if the Lib/Nats take power. Under the Labor Party it would be the Greens who hold the balance as far as I can tell.<br /><br />Whatever happens, there might not be a whole lot of action from government over the next 3-4 years except on non-controversial issues.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4069296342261481952016-07-04T12:52:43.249+10:002016-07-04T12:52:43.249+10:00Ha!Ha!billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-38771768946348808132016-07-04T12:51:27.534+10:002016-07-04T12:51:27.534+10:00This time, not from a satirical website, although ...This time, not from a satirical website, although you would be hard pressed to spot the difference:<br /><br />Pauline Hanson: It’s always been my stance even from the Tampa, and John Howard actually did do it and stopped the boats in 1998 because of the support that One Nation was getting, and he knew he had to pull back those voters. That’s why he took the stance against stopping the boats. (https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2016/jul/04/australian-election-2016-labor-coalition-independents-politics-live)<br /><br />So that's why the Liberals campaigned on the lie of "Children Overboard" in 2001, because they had "stopped the boats" in 1998!<br /><br />Thanks Malcolm! Your tactic to get the ferals out of the Senate _really_ worked. Except most of them have returned, and invited some mates along to trash the house.<br /><br />MWSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67675879281798379422016-07-04T12:48:11.060+10:002016-07-04T12:48:11.060+10:00We certainly owe the Senate independents a great d...We certainly owe the Senate independents a great debt is saving us from the worst of the Abbottite excesses! <br /><br />Now,if only we could swap Ricky Muir back in for Pauline Hanson, the living incarnation of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Where the Senate gets bad is when someone like her - and, God forbid, her cronies! - holds the balance of power. billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-18501828489227430652016-07-04T12:43:59.526+10:002016-07-04T12:43:59.526+10:0010 Other Things Pauline Hanson Should Call For A R...10 Other Things Pauline Hanson Should Call For A Royal Commission Into:<br /><br />http://www.theshovel.com.au/2016/07/04/10-other-things-pauline-hanson-should-call-for-a-royal-commission-into/MWSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-43714283338359308902016-07-04T12:38:44.686+10:002016-07-04T12:38:44.686+10:0051st state? Well, we've swallowed Halloween wh...51st state? Well, we've swallowed Halloween whole, and there's even been some moves towards a Thanksgiving(!)... it'd be interesting to see the numbers on how many think our emergency number is 911.billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-47998490575284723482016-07-04T12:22:28.653+10:002016-07-04T12:22:28.653+10:00I have this sneaking suspicion jch was mocking bot...I have this sneaking suspicion jch was mocking both Australia and the US with that sly comment.numerobisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-29605143094391410192016-07-04T12:14:48.991+10:002016-07-04T12:14:48.991+10:00For my part, I'm glad we can not only vote for...For my part, I'm glad we can not only vote for the lower house but the upper house too. <br /><br />I'd never thought much about it until Brexit, but now I feel so sad for the British, still half-living under a ruling aristocracy and apparently not able to do anything about it.<br /><br />I wouldn't care if the Senate was filled with nothing but squabbling independents as long as it's been voted in, not born to rule.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-83009355449727272762016-07-04T11:58:16.287+10:002016-07-04T11:58:16.287+10:00Plise expline?Plise expline?billnoreply@blogger.com