tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post16156029052586909..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: "Heeeelp! They are going to throw me in jail!" Or weird denier weirdness from Roger E. Sowell, Esq. at WUWTSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-65871775434610185872014-05-03T21:41:31.142+10:002014-05-03T21:41:31.142+10:00...before Roger E. Sowell, Esq. erupts......before Roger E. Sowell, Esq. erupts...Bernard J. (X1,X2,...Xn)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-1151344014545811582014-05-03T21:39:43.834+10:002014-05-03T21:39:43.834+10:00Oo, the recent postings here have reminded me that...Oo, the recent postings here have reminded me that I meant to tell Sou that I used to sign off with "Esq" over at the rabbet's place... just to parody Monckton and his ilk who find it necessary to append such small-dick nonsense to their names.<br /><br />And before erupts in self-righteous umbrage, I'd like to let him know that I have more letters after my name than in it.Bernard J. (X1,X2,...Xn)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-12153170459171631192014-05-03T03:15:41.723+10:002014-05-03T03:15:41.723+10:00Yes, you can give Roger a pass on this even if he ...Yes, you can give Roger a pass on this even if he got a lot of other things wrong. US lawyers don't gave lovely initials like QC to put after their names, and until recently you could qualify for the bar by "reading the law" so you couldn't even call yourself JD. When I started practice in the '70's, lawyers in my area generally called themselves Esq when writing or signing something professionally. There was even a big discussion about whether women lawyers could use Esq or whether it was reserved for males. Now lawyers use the title Esq or Attorney, and no one much cares.FLwolverinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15714397414422766313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-71373169490870009762014-05-03T03:03:28.212+10:002014-05-03T03:03:28.212+10:00Actually, being mentioned on HotWhopper may increa...Actually, being mentioned on HotWhopper may increase Roger's standing in the circles he frequents - i.e., the denialists - so perhaps Sou should send him an invoice for PR work.<br /><br />Sou, thanks for reading this crap so the rest of us don't have to.FLwolverinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15714397414422766313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-33566046518022063702014-05-03T00:46:05.882+10:002014-05-03T00:46:05.882+10:00Well, Roger gets page views from this. Turns out h...Well, Roger gets page views from this. Turns out he follows two blogs, WTFUWT, and "Energy Guy's Musings". The second one is run by Roger Sowell, Esq. A broadly read man.PLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-2877425230965137332014-05-03T00:15:25.431+10:002014-05-03T00:15:25.431+10:00Oh do, do! Sowell, do sue Sou! The nuttiness canno...Oh do, do! Sowell, do sue Sou! The nuttiness cannot be exposed too much!cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-4963870507950748712014-05-02T16:16:33.266+10:002014-05-02T16:16:33.266+10:00Roger is just trying to bully you into submission,...Roger is just trying to bully you into submission, Sou. He knows he has no case whatsoever.Marconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-57648519666613227952014-05-02T11:36:21.809+10:002014-05-02T11:36:21.809+10:00Welcome to HotWhopper, Roger. If I misinterpreted ...Welcome to HotWhopper, Roger. If I misinterpreted any of your (mis)interpretations or made any other errors about you I will happily correct them. You'll have to be more specific though.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-85901678373576055722014-05-02T10:44:04.468+10:002014-05-02T10:44:04.468+10:00Your libelous statements about me are noted, saved...Your libelous statements about me are noted, saved, and filed. <br /><br />Roger E. Sowell, Esq. <br />May 1, 2014 at 5:42 pm PDTRoger Sowellhttp://sowellslawblog.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-30307165681210154512014-04-03T12:59:18.309+11:002014-04-03T12:59:18.309+11:00Sowell is apparently a big fan of Dr. Pierre Latou...Sowell is apparently a <a href="http://sowellslawblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/chemical-engineer-takes-on-global.html" rel="nofollow">big fan</a> of Dr. Pierre Latour of the <a href="http://www.principia-scientific.org/principia-scientific-international-makes-changes-at-the-top.html" rel="nofollow">sky dragon/Principia crowd</a> whose bizarre ideas on CO2 are <a href="http://ccd4e.org/drpierre_latour_and_jeff_temple/" rel="nofollow">soundly criticized</a> by other chemical engineersAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12083190014669867976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-8552253410996580512014-04-03T10:22:14.424+11:002014-04-03T10:22:14.424+11:00However late and piecemeal the effort might be, en...However late and piecemeal the effort might be, engineers are going to be crucial in getting us out of the holes we're driving into. Given the money I've no doubt they're up to the job.<br /><br />Ah, there's the rub ...Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-27660332292841563692014-04-02T20:03:42.322+11:002014-04-02T20:03:42.322+11:00That's a great idea. No promises. Call it a ma...That's a great idea. No promises. Call it a maybe :)Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-6241211179769817462014-04-02T19:45:54.475+11:002014-04-02T19:45:54.475+11:00No apology needed- in my experience people who get...No apology needed- in my experience people who get offended choose to do so for their own advantage (eg deniers supposedly offended at being called deniers...)<br /><br />A piece on actual engineers opinions would be interesting - here's the IChemE position for you<br /><br />http://www.icheme.org/media_centre/position_statements.aspx<br /><br />I wouldn't necessarily agree with all of it, but it's broadly sensible.VeryTallGuynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-77236744532037555182014-04-02T07:34:39.746+11:002014-04-02T07:34:39.746+11:00Given the typical age of our 'friends of tobac...Given the typical age of our 'friends of tobacco' its not beyond the bounds of probability that several - by coincidence - could go to meet the great intelligent designer in the sky all at roughly the same time. Imagine the conspiracy theories then.Millicentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-56234249413762606572014-04-02T06:47:04.053+11:002014-04-02T06:47:04.053+11:00VTG - I'm sorry to you and all engineers who I...VTG - I'm sorry to you and all engineers who I might have offended. I'll try to remember in future to qualify any generalisations I make based on the composition of deniers at places like WUWT. There are many,many more engineers employed than climate scientists. (Still engineers do dominate at places like WUWT compared to other scientific/technical professions.)<br /><br />Engineers are going to help us survive this mess. I suspect most of the engineer deniers are using the word "engineer" very loosely. A lot of them probably don't have the sort of qualifications that would grant them entry to any professional association.<br /><br />I wonder - could the professional engineering associations do more to show that deniers are a fringe group, not the mainstream? Something for me to investigate. I'll add it to my to do list.<br /><br />As a start: Engineers Australia have had a <a href="http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/sites/default/files/shado/Representation/Policy_Statements/policy_statement_-climate_change_and_energy_feb_2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">policy statement on climate change and energy</a> since <a href="http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/about-us/policy-statements" rel="nofollow">February 2008</a> (at least). It could be stronger though.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-66003460860577349752014-04-02T06:39:46.985+11:002014-04-02T06:39:46.985+11:00BBD,
jest? With Engineers?
OK, so there's a...BBD,<br /><br />jest? With Engineers?<br /><br />OK, so there's a mechanical, electronic and civil engineer discussing the meaning of life. The mechanical engineer asserts<br /><br />"God must be a mechanical engineer. No-one else could have designed the human body, the most amazing mechanical device"<br /><br />The electronic engineer disagrees<br />"No way. God must be an electronic engineer. The human brain is the ultimate electronic apparatus"<br /><br />The civil engineer knows best though.<br /><br />"God has to be a civil engineer. No-one else would put the waste disposal right next to the recreation area"VeryTallGuynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-57169210693079203232014-04-02T06:06:15.840+11:002014-04-02T06:06:15.840+11:00VTG
I will cease and desist with even my gentle v...VTG<br /><br />I will cease and desist with even my gentle variant of the engineer bash. It's a bad habit that has crept up on me over the last couple of years. I'm occasionally moved to speak up for engineers - somewhat the unsung heroes of our constructed world - so really, I should know better, even in jest. BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-39209781786020918352014-04-02T05:22:47.602+11:002014-04-02T05:22:47.602+11:00BBD,
it's not you offending my professional h...BBD,<br /><br />it's not you offending my professional honour, it's those in the profession who spout nonsense. Incidentally, it was reading nonsense written by a Chem Eng that got me interested in the subject.<br /><br />On a very slightly more serious note, Sou, Eli, yourself and others also aren't averse to a little engineer bashing from time to time.<br /><br />Here's what an actual engineering institute has to say on the subject:<br /><br /><i>Governments and industry must work together to accelerate research and application on a large scale of efficiency improvements, cleaner and renewable energy, including nuclear, and the introduction of new low carbon materials and processes – <b>or future generations will condemn us for our obstinate folly</b></i><br /><br />(my emphasis)<br /><br />I'd call that a pretty forthright rejection of the denier position.<br /><br />http://www.icheme.org/media_centre/news/2013/chemical engineers back climate warning.aspxVeryTallGuynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-34908966838537421742014-04-02T03:42:07.224+11:002014-04-02T03:42:07.224+11:00If only they were all as clear on the topic of phy...If only they were all as clear on the topic of physical climatology as you, VTG...<br /><br />But apologies if I have offended your professional honour ;-)BBDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687930416706386215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-31596646685071368992014-04-02T03:02:06.478+11:002014-04-02T03:02:06.478+11:00Thanks to both of you. Sou, I noticed that you ha...Thanks to both of you. Sou, I noticed that you had an earlier post about this that I missed until after writing this comment.And Then There's Physicshttp://andthentheresphysics.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59276016818578568092014-04-02T00:39:19.613+11:002014-04-02T00:39:19.613+11:00Hi BBD,
Don't be too hard on Chemical Process...Hi BBD,<br /><br />Don't be too hard on Chemical Process Engineers - they should have an exellent understanding of heat and mass transfer plus even more importantly, without them there ain't no solutions to any of this mess.<br /><br />VTG (Chemical process engineer)verytallguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-66135053745297500812014-04-02T00:33:39.361+11:002014-04-02T00:33:39.361+11:00of course: Lindzen, Christy and Spencer are rotti...of course: Lindzen, Christy and Spencer are rotting in an airless, underground IPCC torture-box (when they're not being wheeled out to provide media "balance").<br />lignenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-84376302230092219222014-04-01T22:41:33.303+11:002014-04-01T22:41:33.303+11:00Congrats, Sou; the credulous think you're incr...Congrats, Sou; the credulous think you're incredible. The rest of us just think you're great :)Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-67331934478728410952014-04-01T19:06:02.508+11:002014-04-01T19:06:02.508+11:00It was a low act of Anthony to refer to you twice ...It was a low act of Anthony to refer to you twice as allowing a comment, while at the same time letting people know you *didn't* allow it (ie you deleted it). Typical of Anthony. Typical of his crowd that some of them chose to ignore the fact that you deleted it, too.<br /><br />Anyway, he's a fine one to talk. The comments Anthony allows on his blog you wouldn't even see at your place (except from a stray angry denier). <br /><br />If it's anything like here, the comments you'd delete might be too much for some of us, but they aren't a patch on the sort of ugliness Anthony permits at his place.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-25573422991608212912014-04-01T18:56:53.083+11:002014-04-01T18:56:53.083+11:00Don't care about that. Your place has become a...Don't care about that. Your place has become a quite civil one to discuss, even if the exchanges can be a bit heated. Considering that you manage to stay calm with Richard T(r)ol and push your points rationally, you have earned lots of Internet points. <br />Watts can bluster all he wants, I don't care. I still follow closely your thoughts and the ones that can be exchanged. bratislanoreply@blogger.com