tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post1167232476987467940..comments2024-03-25T05:30:23.847+11:00Comments on HotWhopper: Self portrait of a typical science denier on WUWTSouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-49199552756304552792013-08-03T08:50:26.198+10:002013-08-03T08:50:26.198+10:00Tesla and Elon Musk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Tesla and Elon Musk<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrzMdoKPPaA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrzMdoKPPaA</a><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-12741330612676873852013-07-28T11:01:16.339+10:002013-07-28T11:01:16.339+10:00Sorry, I meant to link here.Sorry, I meant to <a href="http://dumbscientist.com/archives/abrupt-climate-change#salem" rel="nofollow">link here</a>.Dumb Scientisthttp://dumbscientist.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-80744971255556683502013-07-28T10:56:00.634+10:002013-07-28T10:56:00.634+10:00Wow! It took me years to list 48 examples of what ...Wow! It took me <em>years</em> to list 48 examples of what I call the <a href="" rel="nofollow">"modified Salem hypothesis"</a>. Finding 60 examples in a single page is a historian's (and a sociologist's) gold mine.<br /><br />Barring any duplications we have over 100 examples between us. Perhaps it's time to call it the modified Salem theory?Dumb Scientisthttp://dumbscientist.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-499252260807545592013-07-28T04:34:02.207+10:002013-07-28T04:34:02.207+10:00I'd never come across that notion before Berna...I'd never come across that notion before Bernard. Most interesting. See my latest article - there are around 60 people who claim to be engineers and reject science in that discussion so far.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-59965997717915530472013-07-28T03:44:49.031+10:002013-07-28T03:44:49.031+10:00It's classic support for the Salem Hypothesis....It's classic support for the <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Salem_Hypothesis" rel="nofollow">Salem Hypothesis</a>.<br /><br /><br />Bernard J.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-74736970783641106932013-07-27T20:34:07.234+10:002013-07-27T20:34:07.234+10:00"A microbial cyst is a resting or dormant sta..."A microbial cyst is a resting or dormant stage of a microorganism ... that helps the organism to survive in unfavorable environmental conditions." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encystment<br /><br />Denialism is well into the encystment phase, seeking now merely to survive until better times. Within the cyst it will remain forever 2011 while beyond the protective shell we mere mortals age and die. To all appearances dead, the encysted movement will one day surprise everyone when a single green shoot of "no warming for five years ..." makes a tentative appearance (only to be snuffed out by drought).Cugelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-43905402342790228072013-07-27T07:33:16.599+10:002013-07-27T07:33:16.599+10:00Engineers also often engage in black and white thi...Engineers also often engage in black and white thinking, where a test passes or fails, a thing works or it does not. They often tinker at the margins to make things "better." (The most frustrating engineers are those who are never satisfied with the way it is, if it accomplishes the mission.) The worst trait, however, are those engineers who refuse to accept that what they have engineered is obsolete because of new data, tools, methods or products. I suspect a lot of that type make up the denier community. Having said all that, I thank engineers for making our lives much easier! -- DennisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-25622522369999758362013-07-27T03:53:42.300+10:002013-07-27T03:53:42.300+10:00He studied engineering (sorry engineers, but your ...<i><br />He studied engineering (sorry engineers, but your profession seems to attract people of certain mental inagility).<br /></i><br /><br />Many engineers are of the "plug and chug" rote-memorization variety, where they've acquired their expertise via "brute force repetition". Set them outside of their narrow fields of expertise and they'll be as "lost at sea" as almost anyone else.<br /><br /><br />If you were to, say, hand them a CD of GHCN temperature data and ask them to roll their own global-temperature solutions, very few of them would know how to go about doing it. Not that they couldn't learn, mind you. But they'd have to spend time climbing a learning-curve before they were able to tackle such a project (i.e. studying up on how to handle real-world temperature data with all of its warts, learning to program if they don't have coding skills, etc..) <br /><br />The bottom line is, engineers (and scientists, too!) are simply not able to weigh in constructively on subjects outside their often very narrow fields of expertise without investing some real time and effort to climb up the learning-curve. And people who are driven by ideology are simply unwilling to do that. Come to think of it, that's what makes ideology so attractive. Relying on political ideology is a heck of a lot less work than the alternative, which is rolling up one's sleeves and actually writing code / crunching data.<br /><br />--caerbannog<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-48759740268403286082013-07-26T20:33:38.509+10:002013-07-26T20:33:38.509+10:00Have you seen the valiant Jai Mitchell fighting th...Have you seen the valiant Jai Mitchell <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/25/my-personal-path-to-catastrophic-agw-skepticism/#comment-1370950" rel="nofollow">fighting the good fight</a>?<br /><br />Have you seen dbstealey (Smokey)'s attempt to refute, amongst other things, the idea that the climategate mails revealed no material wrongdoing by climate scientists?<br /><br />Have you seen the <a href="http://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/greenhouse-science/climate-change/climategate-emails.pdf" rel="nofollow">article</a> Stealey/Smokey links to in support? <br /><br />Its by John Costella, who when he is not seeing conspiracies amongst climate scientists <a href="http://www.assassinationscience.com/" rel="nofollow">documents the conspiracy</a> around JFK's assassination. <br /><br />In the attempt to demonstrate that deniers are not nutty conspiracy theorists, something of an own goal. Phil Clarkenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2313427464944392482.post-3995308712397638842013-07-26T19:31:18.766+10:002013-07-26T19:31:18.766+10:00I was going to write about this myself, but I foun...I was going to write about this myself, but I found this post and the one about his daughter just a little sad and ironic. Someone who clearly does not understand the science they're judging, thinks they're doing something right and will probably look back with regret. In a sense, I hope he doesn't because that would mean that those of us on this side of the debate would have been wrong, which is actually preferable to us being right.Wotts Up With That Bloghttp://wottsupwiththatblog.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com