As you probably know, when right wing extremists talk about problems that were averted, they often claim there was never a problem to begin with. That applies to lots of things, for example:
- smog, where right wingers would claim that clean air regulations aren't necessary because the smog has disappeared all by itself.
- population, right wingers would claim that family planning education programs and contraceptive devices and hormone pills aren't necessary, because the human population is "only" 7.4 billion, not 12 billion (yet)
- Y2K bug, right wingers would claim there weren't any problems (that they know of), so all the efforts to prevent the problem weren't necessary
- and more, which you can add yourself :)
Heaven forbid a denier giving the US government any credit for the recent dip in carbon emissions from energy use.
US carbon emissions from energy use dropped 12% below 2005 levels
The U.S. already reduced CO2 emissions since the peak levels of 2005 and 2007 and has future CO2 emissions growth stabilized at lower levels because of the extraordinary benefits brought about by natural gas fracking which has increased gas production and lowered natural gas costs thereby allowing for the economically beneficial replacement of coal fuel with the additional benefit of reduced CO2 emissions.
Then he added:
Why is this remarkable success story not being presented to the public by the media? Is this just another example of climate alarmist media bias?Wait a sec. I thought deniers wanted to increase carbon emissions.
Natural Gas. Burning natural gas is about one-half as carbon-intensive as coal, which can make it a critical “bridge fuel” for many countries as the world transitions to even cleaner sources of energy. Toward that end, the Obama Administration is partnering with states and private companies to exchange lessons learned with our international partners on responsible development of natural gas resources. We have launched the Unconventional Gas Technical Engagement Program to share best practices on issues such as water management, methane emissions, air quality, permitting, contracting, and pricing to help increase global gas supplies and facilitate development of the associated infrastructure that brings them to market. Going forward, we will promote fuel-switching from coal to gas for electricity production and encourage the development of a global market for gas. Since heavy-duty vehicles are expected to account for 40 percent of increased oil use through 2030, we will encourage the adoption of heavy duty natural gas vehicles as well.This year, President Obama has announced his intention to restrict methane emissions from oil and gas extraction.
A flurry of coal plant retirements and an increase in the production of natural gas and renewable energy have pushed the US further towards the federal government’s goal of slashing emissions by between 26% and 28% by 2025, prompting some analysts to call for stronger measures to accelerate the decline.
Natural gas to overtake coal in electricity generation in the US
Back in 2011, the US Energy Information Administration (EIA) wrote how coal would continue to dominate electricity generation in the USA through to 2020 at least. Now it looks as if it might drop behind natural gas this year or next. The chart below is from an EIA report earlier this month, showing natural gas is poised to take over from coal.
From the WUWT comments
May 24, 2016 at 11:00 am
Thanks for flagging this important data! Always nice to see good news.
The graph of global CO2 emissions history and forecast to 2040. It would be useful t compare that with RCP8.5 to see if we’re on track for the dark scenario (at least in this respect — the assumptions about tech stagnation and rapid population growth remain unlikely).
Bob Boder was one of the protesters:
May 24, 2016 at 12:13 pm
“Thanks for flagging this important data! Always nice to see good news.”
What good news? CO2 is not a major problem and all this information means is that our wonderful government has managed to drive even more industry from our shores, isn’t socialism great, go team!
gnomish goes further and wants everyone except science deniers and disinformers to die:
May 24, 2016 at 12:29 pm
“Why is this remarkable success story not being presented to the public by the media? Is this just another example of climate alarmist media bias?”
srsly? not only do i not care- i perceive anybody caring about co2 as a dupe and a tool.
a success story would be ‘people who are concerned with co2 emissions stop breathing and stfu.
Pat Frank is a greenhouse effect and chemistry denier:
May 24, 2016 at 4:27 pm
It would make no knowable difference if the world were on the RCP8.5 pathway. There’s no reason to think that RCP8.5 CO2 emissions through to 2100 would cause any noticeable climate warming.
There is plenty of reason to think, though, that RCP8.5 would vastly benefit farming productivity and the global ecology generally (with minimal impact of marine surface pH).
Joanna believes she knows what the green response will be:
May 24, 2016 at 11:18 am
I believe the green response to these cheering reductions in CO2 emissions is that the decrease in CO2 is offset by an increase in atmospheric methane linked to natural gas production, transport, and use. Anyone know anything about this, particularly a comparison of methane released by coal and natural gas production?
I was wrong about Steven Mosher no longer being welcome at WUWT. He wrote a comment.
Bob Boder has a right wing authoritarian fear of "these people":
May 24, 2016 at 12:19 pm
If these people have there way they will exterminate 95% of us and have the rest living in tents and eating bugs of the ground!
Buck Wheaton makes up his facts in an absence of fact-checking:
May 24, 2016 at 12:08 pm
The fact that this reduction has not been received as good news by those who are clamoring for reductions shows that their demands were not honest in the first place. This reduction does nothing to advance their socialistic agenda. The only news worth mentioning by climate advocates is news that helps them impose bigger government and to reduce our prosperity. That is their real goal, no matter how much those liars deny it.
GW doesn't know that the US economy has picked up:
May 24, 2016 at 1:31 pm
Gee, What A Surprise ! Who would have thought 2005 and 2007 were the peak of US Emissions ? After all they were only the peak years of post 9/11 economic boom prior to the US economic collapse in the fall of 2007 ! The fact that US emissions have not risen since then simply mirrors the stagnation of the US economy since then.
Dan points out that US per capita emissions remain very high, and boasts that he is a climate science denier:
May 24, 2016 at 1:32 pm
As a skeptic, I find these types of articles embarrassing, because they have the same misuse of statistics and poor analysis that CAGW articles have. If someone truly believes that CO2 is a pollutant that is threatening the world, then a fair goal would be for the US to at least reduce their per capita pollution to below the world average. Currently compared to the world, the US population is around 5% and CO2 emissions around 15%. That is 3 times the average. This whole analysis of INCREASING global CO2 emissions is in my opinion misleading.
The real point is CO2 is NOT pollution and is not a problem to be solved at all. This type of article just gives ammunition to CAGW alarmist that skeptics are missing the big picture and being dishonest.
Bruce Cobb is one of those science deniers that wrongly thinks that adding CO2 to the air will be good for the world. (Where do deniers get these weird notions? Oh, okay, from climate conspiracy blogs like WUWT. Why don't they bother to check their facts?)
May 24, 2016 at 2:08 pmMore than one person had the strange and wrong opinion that America is a net carbon sink. I've no idea where that notion came from. stas peterson BSME, MSMa, MBA who likes lots of letters after his name, and likes to shout, wrote:
That is terrible news. We need to do better in helping to increase life-giving CO2. For our planet, and people too.
May 24, 2016 at 4:54 pm
As as pointed out that America is the largest NET CARBON SINK on the planet, By the way, the bio-sequestration is not any part of these EIA reports, They only reveal reported emissions and the mighty Oak and the vast grasslands and corn and wheat fields that consume CO2 and make food and oxygen, are never reported and subtracted.
America produces BELOW ZERO CO2 emissions. Our job is done. The dumbels don’t know i,t and think we are a great polluter. Baloney.
R. Shearer suspects it's true, but doesn't say why, and asks for references, but in vain:
May 24, 2016 at 5:23 pm
I suspect that is true. Do you have any references to back up the claim?
References and further reading
U.S. energy-related carbon dioxide emissions in 2015 are 12% below their 2005 levels - report at US Energy Information Administration, 9 May 2016
Carbon dioxide emissions from electricity generation in 2015 were lowest since 1993 - article at US Energy Information Administration, 13 May 2016
Carbon dioxide emissions from US energy sector fall 12% since 2005 - article by Oliver Milman in the Guardian, 10 May 2016
Feds: Energy sector carbon emissions dipped in 2015 - article by Devin Henry at The Hill, 9 May 2016
A Climate Win for Natural Gas: U.S. Carbon Dioxide Output Plummets - article at Oil and Gas 360, 9 May 2016
Renewables Are Leaving Natural Gas In The Dust This Year - article by Joe Romm at Climate Progress, 16 May 2016
Obama administration announces historic new regulations for methane emissions from oil and gas - article by Chris Mooney and Brady Dennis at Washington Post, 12 May 2016
BREAKING: EPA Finalizes Methane Rule For New Oil And Gas Operations - article by Samantha Page at Climate Progress, 12 May 2016
Coal likely to remain most prevalent fuel for electricity generation - article at US Energy Information, 26 May 2011
Other HotWhopper articles featuring Larry Hamlin.